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  1. 18 points
    I normally like to watch conversations and generally get info from this forum, but I now feel the need to sign up and post when I normally wouldn't. i have reviewed the old posts related to this feud and from what I see, Tech, you generally have a problem with Ranger because you feel that he slighted you in some of his reports. I have looked at them and they don't seem to be directed at you specifically, rather you seem to think that everyone is out to get you. I have news for you bud, not everybody thinks about you as much as you think about yourself. Ranger calls things how he sees them, throughout the season and after, with his rankings and reports. You have a problem with him and you bad mouthed his kid - who is good - for no reason. You literally said "He will break" and cheered for his competition. So it's no wonder he got fired up. Ryan is a stud, and he showed it this weekend. Ranger may not have won state as you did, but if I fall correctly, he placed 3rd while SEVERELY sick with the flu against some super tough competition. On top of that, he is, from everything I have seen, a great coach of young wrestlers. Instead of getting heated with him over petty issues, why don't you recognize the time and effort that he puts in giving us periodic rankings and let his kid be. He will likely be a 2 time state champ, which you weren't, so keep him out of it. You wrestled tough and had a good high school career. Don't spoil it by being a jackass on the forum that a lot of people read. Focus on you college career and help bring some honor to KY at the next level, but leave these HS kids alone over your petty beefs. Good luck to you and wrestle hard.
  2. 10 points
    Gee... Way to turn a wrestling forum into Topix! He said, she said, they said, we said, call me names, call you names, all while supposed to be the adults?!?!
  3. 8 points
    Hello everyone, My name is Byron Bright and I am Ian's dad. I thought I'd send an update. Ian is continuing to improve. He's still dealing with some pain of course, but he's doing much better. His leg has been immobilized for a few weeks before he can start physical therapy to start walking again. He's got a pretty long road of recovery ahead of him but he's really in very good spirits. His biggest complaints have been about boredom more than anything. I also want to add that the young man from Male High School, who was also involved in the match, reached out to Ian and they're planning to meet soon. I know that this gentleman has been going through his own personal torture. However, him reaching out to Ian and wanting to meet and hang out with him is probably the greatest moment of sportsmanship and absolute class that I've ever witnessed. This young man has been suffering with the thoughts of what happened and to reach out and contact Ian, well, it meant the world to all of us, especially Ian. On behalf of our whole family, I want to say thank you to everyone for your prayers, thoughts, and concerns. If there's anything else I can answer, please don't hesitate to ask. We can't begin to express how much the support from everyone in the wrestling community has meant to us all. Thank you again.
  4. 8 points
    I never said anything in my first post that he was sick all morning or the night before. I didn't even stay in the hotel with them the night before so my first contact with him was in the morning. He seemed fine before and after weigh ins and actually looked real good and like his normal self until he got up from the headlock and next thing we know he's in injury time and headed to the garbage can. Not sure where I contradict myself other than maybe my second post I did call it a stomach virus... I'm not a doctor, I could have called it a belly ache or whatever. I'm not a doctor and he never needed a doctor. He threw up, therfor he was dehydrated and needed fluids. First thing the trainer or medic on hand said was, could be something you ate. I've been coaching 7 or 8 years, I've been a referee for the last 5. I watched a kid puke his way all the way to states last year. They claimed he had food poisoning.... I'm not making claims, I don't know. I know in wrestling there's no next man up like football or other team sports. If you sit your team loses 6 points every round. In wrestling that's why we say wrestling is like life. I don't get a day off because my tummy hurts. You think he was the only one there wrestling that had any issues? You want to sit your kid at the first sign something is up and play doctor over an upset stomach at a state tournament? Maybe that's how you think it should be here in Kentucky but I'm not from here. I've watched kids break fingers, pull muscles, dislocate limbs and bleed all over the place in a regular duel meet that meant nothing and keep wrestling. I also have 9 kids, oldest two in the military and those girls are tuffer than some of these boys and when one kid comes home from school sick I get prepared for them all to get sick. I don't go crying to the school because someone must have sent their kid to school sick and got my kid sick. I apologise if my kids stomach ache,if it was a virus he apparently got from someone, got cought by anyone else but since he felt a little better Sunday with rest and felt completely great today and went to practice I'm going to assume it wasn't the plague and everyone will be alright. Good luck explaining to your team that your going to forfiet little Johnnie's weight class all day at the State Tournament because he doesn't feel 100%. Maybe that's why someone wasn't State Champs, maybe they sat every kid that didn't feel they could give it 100%. I'm just going to venture a guess that my kid wasn't the only one there out of all those wrestlers that didn't feel 100%. my wife is probably right, I shouldn't have said anything at all and shouldn't be on these forums because I have this thing where I say how I feel. I could maybe make up a name and start discussing things and pretend I'm not Sam Bacon's dad like some people do. That's just not me to make up some name, I like people to know who they are talking to. After all, I thought this was a wrestling forum but I always forget that not everyone sees wrestling as the sport I do and not everyone tries to raise their kids like I do. I'm not perfect but I won't apologize for me or my kid fighting through a little adversity. Maybe while they are checking weight and doing skin checks they can stick a thermometer up their but and have them fill out a survey on how they are feeling that day too and we can put a stop to athletes suck it up mentality and instead think about yourselves and not the team. I know I didn't stay away from my son, I hugged him and high fived him all day and I didn't get sick... So maybe it was something he ate. I feel better already. Guess no more forums for me, the wife says. I'll see you all in 3 weeks.
  5. 7 points
    When I left the hospital today, Ian was in the process of being discharged. He was in great spirits and you would not have known that it was just 24 hrs. afterwards. He was looking to get home to his own bed. He will need to be non-weight bearing on that leg for 4 weeks. Surgeon was very pleased with the surgery, turned out to be more than just a dislocation. Thank you to all that got involved and helped Ian in that moment. I'd like to thank my fellow wrestling coaches who offered to help our team or took the time to offer kind words. Please continue to keep Ian and his family in your prayers. Coach Brutscher Atherton Wrestling
  6. 7 points
    Saw this on facebook: When he woke up after they rotated his leg back around, one of the first things Ian asked about was where the Male "kid" (the one he was wrestling against when this happened) was. Ian said he wanted him to know that it wasn't his fault. So if anyone knows the other kid that was involved in this, we want you to know that we know you've been in as much pain mentally as Ian has physically. And we all hope that you're able to get through this as well. So much love out to Ian's coaches, team, all of the Atherton High School and fellow wrestlers throughout the county. We thank you all for your love, professionalism, and support.
  7. 7 points
    Johnson might not be medically cleared to wrestle. His balls won't fit into a singlet.
  8. 7 points
    It's funny that Rob was brought up during all of this reckless forum talk. As someone who has practiced in the same room as both of them for a while now, sometimes when both of them are at that practice, I can tell you guys that they are very similar in a bunch of ways. They are very good at what they do, but they have a hard time helping some people because of their mouths. There is no reason to take anything away from AJ just because he pops off with his mouth sometimes, it doesn't make him any less of a wrestler. Same with Rob, just because his mouths turns some people away it doesn't make his coaching any worse. I've talked to more coaches than any referee or coach, and trust me, I've heard all the stories, about AJ and Rob. I'm not going to lie, a bunch of them make me shake my head out of slight disappointment. But I also know first hand how great of people they can be if you get past their mouths. They have both helped me in every way they could for the past 2 1/2 years when I needed it most. You're not going to like, agree, or even be able stand everyone you meet, but that's life, so can we please just let all this bs go? AJ is a state champ, Rob is a great coach, they both have quite the mouths on them, and I'm tired of reading petty beef on a sports discussion forum.
  9. 7 points
    For all of those that booed me out of the gym during the match and podium you should learn some class from angel. Never have i wrestled someone with so much class. For all that doubted, and booed me. I got the last laugh. Learn some class. On to college i go. And i wish the best of luck to angel what a stud!. Thanks to all of the coaches that habe helped to get me to where i am today. Your 138lb state champ, Aj bindner
  10. 7 points
    Not sure I've ever seen a classier kid than Angel Vasquez
  11. 7 points
    I took them down because YOU just don't get it!!!! I tried to be the voice of reason as an outsider who's only read and was told about what happened. I tried to post the rules as a NEUTRAL party, who knows what I'm talking about because when its said and done I have NO DOG in this fight, heck I live over 200 miles from where his happened. I spent over an hour reading all the post that you've made and everyone that replied to you and I can safely that 1. I'm older than you, 2. that I've been in this sport longer than you. I like most in here I wrestled in school, but in Ohio then wrestled in college and lastly wrestled in the Army 3. I've been a Wrestling Official for 29 YEARS in 5 different states and I KNOW THE RULES and have seen how the rules have changed since I first put a black and white strip shirt on in Ohio in 1987 (my first year officiating, what were you doing in 1987?)... 4. I've coached 3 different youth programs in two different states over the last 15 years. I am and have coached my sons who are 22, 17 and 7, so I have the father/coach area checked as well... I think that it is safe to say that I have a damn good resume' when it comes to the sport of wrestling and EVERYONE in here has and is telling you the same thing but you just don't want to hear it. I posted the RULES the truth and it is a fact we are the LAST LINE of defense when it comes to SKIN issues and safety of the kids. You WILL not change anything that we do when it comes to safety AND we do have the authority to over-rule that KHSAA form. Not 1 official did it, ALL 4 of them ruled against it. You asked questions, called people/officials names, accused officials of cheating. Insinuating that "they" did it out of spit because he was ranked #1 and that somehow the officials knew this and they knew that his first match was with a Ryle kid..... Gee 29 years of doing this and I don't ever remember officials seeing the brackets before during or after a tourn. You've pointed fingers at everyone and everything possible. You are not and have not accomplished a single thing with all of this...... AGAIN so you understand a TRAINER is not an on site medical professional. We are not playing part time Dr., we don't Dx anything, we just have the authority to protect all the kids... Checking the SKIN and ruling on it is our JOB. I bet before this day you never once cared about what we did when it came to skin did you? Now it's an issue? I got that 100% why it bothers you and we all must fight for our kids, but it's over and done with and it can't be changed. You post all these what IFS' and stuff you find on Google to support YOUR agenda. You're taking this as a personal attack against you, your son and your family and it was nothing of the sort. Again, have a wonderful day RamMan and best of luck to your fine student athlete I wish him the best in everything he does both on and off the mat, God speed to you and your family.
  12. 6 points
    http://www.nola.com/living/index.ssf/2017/02/confessions_of_a_recovering_wr.html#incart_river_home
  13. 6 points
    Just wanted to give a shout out to Steve Kaiser and Simon Kenton. Great job winning a Regional Championship! He's one of the most underrated coaches in our state and has done a great job with this team. Good luck to you and your team down State!
  14. 6 points
    I really do not understand why so many people think it is a good idea to limit the opportunity for youth wrestlers to compete in these events. In fact, I think we should do the exact opposite. We should be begging and doing everything we can to get our best youth kids to participate in our state events, regardless of their schedule or placements in MS state. I hear many people on this site claim that by eliminating MS state placers from participating in Youth State is for the "development of the youth kids". How does making a tournament easier help those kids? If anything, it hurts their development. Wrestlers at any level only get better going up against better competition. There is so much a wrestler can learn just from watching a stud warm up, compete, and conduct themselves in live competition. We've basically already eliminated our best and most experienced youth kids from our state tournament by eliminating those that place at MS state. Now we don't want our best youth kids to wrestle a MS schedule? I cannot fathom how that would help our state improve. There should be no rules eliminating kids the opportunity to wrestle if they want to wrestle at any level just because they are too good. That is really just a silly and ridiculous idea if you really think about it.
  15. 6 points
    What is the reason for holding Districts? If we just held a Regional tournament you would see 16 man brackets and maybe a couple 32 man brackets with a lot of holes. We need to open up our season for one more week and let these wrestlers get some good out of state competition.
  16. 6 points
    Ok. So here we are again. Another season in which i find out that my school, Iroquois, will be coachless. This not i only means that we are coachless, but that this year there is a really high chance of our program being canceled. Our school will be getting a new ad in july and im not exactly sure how the hiring process works. But id really appreciate someone stepping up and helping us continue our program. I am not open to switching schools. Not until im 100% sure there will be no team. Also to me, and hopefully many others, i have built a strong bond with many in my school despite its reputation. I say this because i want my last year of high school to be great and honestly i want to stay where i am. So thank you to anyone who attempts to get the job and to the future coach hopeful. P.S i have observed that being a head coach takes lots of desication,training , and time , and that anyone who considers the job be willing to sacrifice their time to help grow our program. We are not StX,Trinity, or Union, but our school is filled with just as much raw talent as those. We just need a coach willing to push the wrestlers. Sorry for the long write up, and i dont mean to be redundant, but the season will be here before we know it just like last year and this problem needs to be solved. The earlier the better. Thank you...
  17. 6 points
    If Johnson can't host on Saturday, we need to consider changing venues. Sunday isn't a viable option.
  18. 5 points
    No disrespect meant for ATM. He is a stud and will eventually make NCAAs and maybe AA. But his dad is bully and bullies don't deserve respect.
  19. 5 points
    Uh-oh! Looks like someone got their feelings hurt.
  20. 5 points
    I love the State Wrestling Tournament. I love watching young competitors put it all on the line to achieve more than anyone expects, to lift up their respective teams, to prove something either to themselves or to others. Wrestling exemplifies hard work, sacrifice, commitment, and tenacity. The KHSAA has apparently committed to dishonoring all of these virtues. The format for the finals was ghastly. It took twice as long as it should have (the opposite of what was intended), the highlight wasn't on the finalists, the medal ceremony for each weight occurred moments after one of the soon-to-be podium dwellers lost his final match of the season. There was no time for athletes to collect themselves before being called to stand in front of the entire crowd. Champions had no time to hug their parents or savor the spotlight. This structure was the ANTITHESIS of what a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP should be. Now, with that said, Dallas Ochsenbein's duck under in the finals made all the KHSAA bull crap worth it. I want to relive that moment over and over again.
  21. 5 points
    With all due respect to you and your opinion, my son excelled in several sports. While not measuring up to your standards in wrestling he did participate in 3 sports throughout his high school carrier while achieving nearly straight A's in his course work. (He had three B's in his 12 years of school). He has been a two time discus state champion and runner up another reason year and could end up with a third totaled this year. He has one shot put title with a runner up and a forth place another year. He was an All American football player with a five star rating his senior year. This earned him a completely paid for 4 year scholarship to a Division one school. He was offered by nearly every SEC school and several Big 10 schools and could have gone where ever he chose. He was ranking, in rivals final ranking, third in the nation at offensive tackle in the 2016 class and number 15 in the nation overall in this class. He was president off the FFA chapter this year as well as active in our local Church. He strives to do the best at whatever he takes in but he has to spread out his time in many interest. He achieved all of this not doing any of these sports full time. If this is a failure to you, I think your idea of success is somewhat flawed. I suspect he could have had the success you mentioned had he focused on just one sport or activity. However, he chose to enjoy several and has has a fair level of success with all of his ebdevors. Even more, he is widely accepted and loved where ever he goes. I also know his heart belongs to our Lord and savior. This last point is the point that makes me most proud. Maybe he did not live up to the billing but I can tell you as his fathe, I could not be more proud of my son than I am right now! I expect him to only get better as he matures and grows into a man.
  22. 5 points
    Attention Wrestling Community: On the behalf of OCHS and the Wrestling Program, our parents, alumni, fans, coaches, and most importantly, our student-athletes, we would like to thank the KYWCA (and Ryle for hosting) for all of their hard-work and sacrifices that they put forth in organizing the Kentucky State Duals Championship event as well as all of the other things that this association does to help represent and promote the sport of wrestling in the state of Kentucky! These guys sacrifice not only additional time away from their families, but also, many times, their own teams to help provide this opportunity. It does not go un-noticed, and I/WE greatly appreciate the selflessness of the job you do! Thanks again, and best of luck to all on the remainder of the season. Coach Riordan & TEAM! Oldham Wrestling
  23. 5 points
    If you think there was a plan put in place to DQ your son due to ringworm, only to have a Ryle kid win regionals is a joke. His ranking or grade has no bearing on your sons ringworm. That Ref your speaking of wasn't even in the building when the 2 officials said he wasn't able to wrestle during his skin check at weigh ins. . The kid your son would have wrestled in the Finals is solid and didn't need a DQ. He can hold his own. Second of all the Referee your speaking of IS NO MORE a coach at Ryle than Tom is for Campbell County. Their were 4 refs there that did not clear your son. I was in the coaches meeting when an official that's from Campbell County also said your sons ringworm was red and pussed up. You offered to try and cover it up(wrap it) as a solution. Then you tried calling a outside doctor to drive to Woodland to tell the refs your son could wrestle. The rules are pretty clear about infections and who has to protect the other wrestlers. Your son is an outstanding wrestler and certainly would have found his way to the State podium if not on top of it. There wasn't a coach in that room that didn't feel terrible for your son and wished he could wrestle. I've always thought you guys carried yourselves in a respectful manner. But To insult a man and make derogatory statements for doing his job is uncalled for.
  24. 5 points
    Guys, Nathan has been covered by flo as much as anyone. You have to take the good with the bad. Bottom line Nathan didnt perform. It has only been about three weeks that he has been in a room that pushes him. He will be ok he just needs to keep working and get stronger. You cant have your best match every match. Nathan actually beat this great young man about 2 years ago 6-3. Nathan got taken down at the end of the first. I think took his mind out of it and then the snow ball started. At the ceremony they talked about guys wrestling someone up a weight at Dapper Dan. Jake Herbert did it and got Tech Pinned. He ended up winning a couple of NCAA title. I am not going to define Nathans career off of one match or will he. When he came off the mat he just said I need to get back to work. Bottom line he got beat and that happens so Wildcat you are ok and not a problem with posting. People want to know. When people make such a big deal when you get beat by a guy 1 weight above you. You then know you are doing something right. Now for facts Nathan is a 120lber and he wrestled a kid that wrestled 126 all year that was a 126 state Champion and OW in PA. No there wasnt strict weigh ins and thats ok.. A lot of the kids didnt make weight with the 5lb allowance. The kids know they will wrestle regardless of weight. Its about putting on a show for charity. It was an honor that they felt they had to put their 126 on Nathan. Kentucky has had 2 Dapper Dans neither have won. Joe Carr jr lost by pin in 1997. Hopefully Myers can get us back on track. Dapper Dan is more about the ceremony and the awards. The actual wrestling is a small part of it. One may ask why would you go to wrestle someone in a higher weight and why would they do it. First of all the Dapper Dan is the Nirvana of Highschool wrestling. The best of the best are there. To make it interesting PA needs to put their best guys on the mat regardless of weight. This year PA allowed 4 guys to wrestle down a weight. Honestly, I think it was awesome. It made it very interesting. Brock had his match he would love to have back at super 32, Sean against a couple of guys in Ohio, Blackwell in the finals, and Nathan at Dapper Dan. Boys, unfortunatly you have those nights but you guys are still the greats in my eyes. Last night, the bottom line was he was bigger, stronger, and just a better wrestler. Most kids would love to have his career I know I would. 199-1 3X State Champion-2 States IN/KY 4X State finalist- Lost to Dapper Dan winner and OW his Sophmore year Ranked #1 in the Country a couple of times the last couple of years at different weights 2X Flonational Finalist-Flonational Champion Invited to Dapper Dan Invited to Dream Team In closing, I want to thank everyone for making Nathan feel like a Kentucky kid and accepting him as your own. Everyone opened their rooms and welcomed him with open arms. I love Indiana wrestling but Kentucky wrestling has a special place in my heart. I would guess Nathan will be right back in the practice room today or tomorrow. Thanks again and good luck at Nationals.
  25. 5 points
    Well, I can honestly say Nebraska & Oregon are lucky they squeezed by us! Nebraska beat us by 4 points and we forfeited the 220 spot due to an injury. Oregon won by 2 points with some shady officiating! Oregon's Parents were sweating their butts off in that dual! One of their Dad's couldn't stop praising our boys and how that dual could have went either way! We also beat Indiana Blue! We had more wins against Illinois Gold than we ever had in the past and they won the entire tournament! I believe we had 4 wins today, when in the past 3 years, we only had 1 win last year and ZERO wins 2 years ago against them. Oh, Nebraska made it to the Gold Bracket and Oregon made it to the finals of the Silver Bracket and got 2nd! And a big shout out to Dylan West on Kentucky Red! He went Undefeated in the tournament too! 7-0!