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  2. grappler-of-old

    Regional realignment

    I would encourage coaches and parents to admonish their athletes when they argue with an official. If your son/daughter argues with an official (even if they may be correct) it should never be supported. Coaches, only have (ONE) coach ask about a call. Not the athlete, the assistant coach and head coach teaming up on an official. As for coaches, if it is not the post season, does it really matter? I know we all want to win, but allowing your athletes to see that sometimes things don't go your way is a huge lifelong lesson. If we want the sport to grow then we need officials. Give these young officials a break. As I stated before, talk to them calmly after the fact. It goes a long way to improving your relationship with the official and helps the official move forward. Remember we all make mistakes. I've made a lot in my advanced age.
  3. 1982Wrestler

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    He running?
  4. Wrestling247365

    Regional realignment

    At the high school level it has been the same amount for at least 20 years. The issue is at middle and youth events. We have our younger officials there and you have coaches(parents) yelling at these kids. This drives away the younger officials. When a kid sees their coach arguing a call with an official that leads them to think it is ok to disrespect an official as well. It has become a generational issue in all sports. EVERY sport is struggling to have officials at youth events because of the way they are treated. You rarely hear of issues at high school events between officials and coaches. This is because the KHSAA holds them accountable and will fine and suspended coaches. USA WRESTLING does the same when they are informed. But if it happens at an event that is not sanctioned (yes there are several middle school and youth events that are not in this state) there is no one to hold that coach accountable.
  5. 119Rider

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    132 might be a better weight for his body. He is a tall, slender guy. Think he could grow into a tough middle weight guy in college. 141-149 with his frame.
  6. Ranger123

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    He wasn't able to go down until after Christmas (so up at 132 the first month + of the season).
  7. DrBaker

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    He tried Jordyn at state duals.
  8. pin4thewin

    Regionals!!!!!

    Region 7 is out
  9. pin4thewin

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    No raney
  10. Take-em-down

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    Why would he decide to go up right before Regionals when he’s been at 126 all year ??
  11. pin4thewin

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    Is whorton up?
  12. DrBaker

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    We see what you did there.
  13. Hawkeye of old

    Region 2 rankings by weight

    Well here are my pics. 106-valera. 113 Conner. 120 hardin 126 gross. 132 whorton 138 Messer. 144 Springer. 150 Arnold 157 Herron 165 Bobitt 175 Lambert 190 Boyd 215 Silva 285 Bollinger. A very close race for the team - Anyone of the top five teams could win . Just have to see. Good luck to all
  14. Justin Ratliff

    Diesel City Folkstyle Nationals 2-26-23

    We were wanting to do it March 5th but the facility was booked for the Harlem Globetrotters. Looking forward to seeing any out of state wrestlers willing to make the trip (Youth to HS). Always some great competition!
  15. JST

    Coaches dual

    Ha this is definitely my favorite thread this year lol! My thoughts are: 1:30 periods with a minimum of 30 seconds rest period followed by a required 1:30 stretch of all muscle groups. Mandatory 15 minute warmup/stretch before match starts. Back support belts, shoulder brace, and knee braces recommended. Smiles and laughs required by competitors. Youth wrestling mothers required to attend and scream at refs for potentially dangerous shoulder wrenching and 2 pt takedowns. 4 garbage cans will be placed around mat for immediate access for puking. Champagne spray for all competitors.
  16. Just as an FYI, even the dual rankings on here don't take into account actual dual results. I have a formula that uses individual rankings to calculate a projected dual meet score based on everyone being in the lineup and healthy and no weight bumps.
  17. Dual results have virtually no impact on the individual team rankings. The team rankings are based on projected state tournament scoring.
  18. Montgomery county beat Lafayette at sectional duels?
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  20. rjs4470

    Regional realignment

    I don't disagree, and I should add your experience mirrors what I've experienced. I was referring to parents rather than coaches, and should have stated that more clearly. I've seen very few coaches get booted over the last decade or so, and none that I can remember are wrestling coaches, and that's at any level....youth, MS, HS. Yes, I've seen a few wrestling coaches get hit with team point deductions, but even in those situations, the coaches have taken their medicine, and there have been no further issues. I'd even go so far as to say that wrestling coaches are generally better behaved than coaches of other sports.
  21. GentleBeard

    Regional realignment

    Maybe it’s just where we are located, but I didn’t see many confrontations that got out of hand to the point coaches were getting booted. In fact, I could name drop a few refs who have gone above and beyond to show respect to coaches, improve relationships, listen to concerns, but also remain mentally tough when coaches get amped up over perceived calls that don’t go their way. The fact we can have a discussion about a call with an open mind and low probability of getting offended or giving misconducts has been a nice change. I know I appreciate the hell out of that. Unfortunately, I doubt those refs will get the spotlight at state. That’s how it usually works.
  22. grappler-of-old

    Regional realignment

    That makes sense. The younger the participants normally the younger and less experienced the coach. One advise I would give young coaches is to talk to the officials after the event or at a break. Ask how the call was made, don't argue about it (The call can't be changed now) just find out why the official made the call. I have learned a great deal by doing this and I hope that the official I talked to know I am just trying to understand and learn myself. We NEVER know all the answers.
  23. rjs4470

    Regional realignment

    I've found that across many sports (at least the ones I've been or my kids have been involved in, Baseball, Football, Basketball and wrestling) that the age of the kids is inversely related to the grief that officials get. The younger the participant, the worse the officials get treated. Which might explain why it's harder to get officials at non high school events.
  24. grappler-of-old

    Diesel City Folkstyle Nationals 2-26-23

    Sunday the day after the Ky state tournament?
  25. Save the date to wrestle at Diesel City Folkstyle Nationals on February 26th, 2023 in Columbus, Indiana. Battle for the singlet! Also, a team race with banners for top 3 teams, top All-star team, and top Women's team. Diesel City Folkstyle Nationals 2023.docx
  26. CUTiger184

    Regionals!!!!!

    Region 6 seed meeting is tonight.
  27. grappler-of-old

    Regional realignment

    I know I may be opening a can of worms here but::::::. I would like to hear from some older officials that have been around for a long long time. My question is this. are the coaches questioning/complaining/arguing more, less, or about the same as in the past. I have been around for a long long time and I'm not sure I see a huge difference in the coaches now compared to yesteryear. I actually believe that the coaches are arguing less. You don't have the Joe Carr Sr. (Woo), Dave Madding (Scott) who would question or complain all the time. I think that many officials have gotten rabbit ears. Coaches in the corner will complain to each other about a call and the officials hear it and it gets to them. It's the one problem our whole society is facing, a little criticism or disagreement does not have to end the world, especially if it is not directly said to you. Then again I am probably wrong. My wife tells me I am all the time.
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