realignment news!

[coachteater 70]

Khsaa has posted info on new region alignments.

[ridingtime 10]

DRAFT ALIGNMENT OF WRESTLING TEAMS FOR 2013-2014

School (Proposed region, average number of entries, current region)

REGION 1 (116.5) - Caldwell County (1, 10.2, 1), Calloway County (1, 10.9, 1), Christian County (1, 12.8, 1), Fort Campbell (1, 11.8, 1), Graves County (1, 13.0, 1), Hopkinsville (1, 9.0, 1), Ohio County (1, 9.0, 1), Paducah Tilghman (1, 10.5, 1), Trigg County (1, 9.7, 1), Union County (1, 13.3, 1), University Heights (1, 6.3, 1)

REGION 2 (122.2) - Apollo (2, 8.1, 1), Barren County (2, 8.5, 2), Central Hardin (2, 13.5, 2), Daviess County (2, 8.2, 1), Fort Knox (2, 9.5, 2), John Hardin (2, 12.9, 2), LaRue County (2, 13.8, 2), Meade County (2, 13.7, 3), Nelson County (2, 10.9, 2), North Hardin (2, 12.1, 2), Owensboro (2, 11.0, 1), Taylor County (2, 0.0, 2), Thomas Nelson (2, 0.0, 2)

REGION 3 (117.5) - Bullitt Central (3, 10.2, 3), Bullitt East (3, 11.7, 3), DeSales (3, 12.0, 3), Doss (3, 10.5, 3), Fairdale (3, 10.7, 3), Fern Creek (4, 10.2, 5), Holy Cross (Louisville) (3, 5.4, 3), Iroquois (3, 6.6, 3), North Bullitt (3, 10.5, 3), Pleasure Ridge Park (3, 12.7, 3), Southern (3, 12.1, 3), Valley (3, 8.4, 3)

REGION 4 (128.3) - Atherton (4, 6.9, 4), Central (4, 11.4, 4), DuPont Manual (4, 10.4, 4), Eastern (4, 12.9, 5), Jeffersontown (4, 9.5, 5), Kentucky School f/t Blind (4, 2.4, 4), Male (4, 14.0, 5), Moore (4, 9.7, 4), Seneca (4, 12.8, 4), Shawnee (4, 0.0, 3), St. Xavier (4, 13.9, 4), Trinity (Louisville) (4, 14.0, 4), Western (3, 6.8, 3)

REGION 5 (116.6) - Anderson County (5, 11.2, 2), Franklin County (5, 11.5, 7), Grant County (5, 12.0, 6), North Oldham (5, 11.4, 5), Oldham County (5, 13.5, 5), Scott County (5, 10.5, 6), South Oldham (5, 12.5, 5), Spencer County (5, 13.0, 5), Western Hills (5, 7.3, 7), Woodford County (5, 13.7, 7)

REGION 6 (120.6) - Boone County (6, 9.2, 6), Campbell County (6, 13.8, 6), Conner (6, 11.8, 6), Cooper (6, 10.8, 6), Dixie Heights (6, 10.8, 6), Holmes (6, 6.5, 6), Newport (6, 9.3, 6), Ryle (6, 13.5, 6), Scott (6, 11.9, 6), Simon Kenton (6, 12.8, 6), Walton-Verona (6, 10.3, 6)

REGION 7 (122.5) - Boyle County (7, 13.3, 2), Bryan Station (7, 8.7, 7), Danville (7, 9.3, 2), Henry Clay (7, 12.8, 7), Lafayette (7, 11.5, 7), Madison Central (7, 10.0, 7), Madison Southern (7, 0.0, 7), McCreary Central (7, 10.2, 8), Paul Laurence Dunbar (7, 12.7, 7), Tates Creek (7, 13.0, 7), Wayne County (7, 12.7, 8), Whitley County (7, 8.4, 8)

REGION 8 (122.3) - Ashland Blazer (8, 10.3, 8), Belfry (8, 9.7, 8), Bourbon County (8, 9.3, 7), Boyd County (8, 0.0, 8), East Ridge (8, 8.0, 8), Harrison County (8, 11.9, 7), Jenkins (8, 3.0, 8), Johnson Central (8, 13.1, 8), Lawrence County (8, 5.9, 8), Letcher County Central (8, 11.5, 8), Montgomery County (8, 9.9, 7), Perry County Central (8, 8.8, 8), Phelps (8, 0.0, 8), Pike County Central (8, 9.0, 8), Sheldon Clark (8, 11.9, 8)

[bigedcoach 27]

Western should be in region 3

[louwrestfan 1]

bigedcoach, i agree. they should switch western and fern creek.

[RYP 13]

louwrestlingfan, how does switching Fern Creek and Western help? Region 4 goes up to 132 average entries and Region 3 down to 113 if you switch. How does that improve alignment? Remember, realignment is based on average # of entries for the teams. If you are looking at it from a "strength" of region aspect, you are not looking at what KHSAA is looking at. Everyone should remember that strength of teams and regions goes thru cycles. Top teams yesterday are not necessarily the top teams of tomorrow. You can't realign based on past results. Only on the # of participants.

The KHSAA specifically states "Nothing about this discussion factors in anything about competitive balance, history of success or projected ability."

[heavy83 15]

If you look at the nos. in parenthesis it state Fern Creek in reg 4 and Western in 3

[RYP 13]

Following is the correction from KHSAA:

DRAFT ALIGNMENT OF LOUISVILLE/BULLITT COUNTY WRESTLING TEAMS

REGION 3 (120.9) - Bullitt Central (3, 10.2, 3), Bullitt East (3, 11.7, 3), DeSales (3, 12.0, 3), Doss (3, 10.5, 3), Fairdale (3, 10.7, 3), Fern Creek (3, 10.2, 5), Holy Cross (Louisville) (3, 5.4, 3), Iroquois (3, 6.6, 3), North Bullitt (3, 10.5, 3), Pleasure Ridge Park (3, 12.7, 3), Southern (3, 12.1, 3), Valley (3, 8.4, 3)

REGION 4 (124.9) - Atherton (4, 6.9, 4), Central (4, 11.4, 4), DuPont Manual (4, 10.4, 4), Eastern (4, 12.9, 5), Jeffersontown (4, 9.5, 5), Kentucky School f/t Blind (4, 2.4, 4), Male (4, 14.0, 5), Moore (4, 9.7, 4), Seneca (4, 12.8, 4), Shawnee (4, 0.0, 3), St. Xavier (4, 13.9, 4), Trinity (Louisville) (4, 14.0, 4), Western (4, 6.8, 3)

Numbers:

120.9 - Total entrants 10 year average based on schools in Draft Region 3

124.9 - Total entrants 10 year average based on schools in Draft Region 4

(3, 10.2, 5) – (New Region, 10 year average entrants, Old Region)

Fern Creek in 3, Western in 4.

[cmccoy 4]

RYP is correct. This is just a draft (but probably very close to the final alignmnet). The final draft will be voted on and accepted in January.

[Mathound 4]

Bourbon and Harrison in region 8 seems like quite a stretch.

[bigedcoach 27]

Louwrestling fan and RYP, Fern Creek belongsout in region 3 because they are next door to the Bullitts. Where I comment that Western belongs in Region 3 is because you have all the Dixie HWY schools (Doss, PRP Holy Cross, Valley, and Western) all in one region and that would probably still have even out the entry balance. If you take out a team it should be Iroquiosand I woould also look to flip flop Moore and Southern.

[Josh_Claywell 52]

Region 2 is nuts. Holy crap.

Looks like I'll be doing a lot more driving across the state if this goes through.

[rideemout 16]

Region 2 looks like one of the weakest regions to me.

[jbigdaddy 8]

I think ten years data was way too far back to include. Some of these programs have gone through major changes in just the last few years, which skews these numbers. Not complaining, just pointing out that they may have gone back too far to analyze participation numbers.

[cmccoy 4]

DRAFT ALIGNMENT OF WRESTLING TEAMS FOR 2013-2014

School (Proposed region, average number of entries, current region)

REGION 1 (116.5) - Caldwell County (1, 10.2, 1), Calloway County (1, 10.9, 1), Christian County (1, 12.8, 1), Fort Campbell (1, 11.8, 1), Graves County (1, 13.0, 1), Hopkinsville (1, 9.0, 1), Ohio County (1, 9.0, 1), Paducah Tilghman (1, 10.5, 1), Trigg County (1, 9.7, 1), Union County (1, 13.3, 1), University Heights (1, 6.3, 1)

REGION 2 (122.2) - Apollo (2, 8.1, 1), Barren County (2, 8.5, 2), Central Hardin (2, 13.5, 2), Daviess County (2, 8.2, 1), Fort Knox (2, 9.5, 2), John Hardin (2, 12.9, 2), LaRue County (2, 13.8, 2), Meade County (2, 13.7, 3), Nelson County (2, 10.9, 2), North Hardin (2, 12.1, 2), Owensboro (2, 11.0, 1), Taylor County (2, 0.0, 2), Thomas Nelson (2, 0.0, 2)

REGION 3 (117.5) - Bullitt Central (3, 10.2, 3), Bullitt East (3, 11.7, 3), DeSales (3, 12.0, 3), Doss (3, 10.5, 3), Fairdale (3, 10.7, 3), Fern Creek (4, 10.2, 5), Holy Cross (Louisville) (3, 5.4, 3), Iroquois (3, 6.6, 3), North Bullitt (3, 10.5, 3), Pleasure Ridge Park (3, 12.7, 3), Southern (3, 12.1, 3), Valley (3, 8.4, 3)

REGION 4 (128.3) - Atherton (4, 6.9, 4), Central (4, 11.4, 4), DuPont Manual (4, 10.4, 4), Eastern (4, 12.9, 5), Jeffersontown (4, 9.5, 5), Kentucky School f/t Blind (4, 2.4, 4), Male (4, 14.0, 5), Moore (4, 9.7, 4), Seneca (4, 12.8, 4), Shawnee (4, 0.0, 3), St. Xavier (4, 13.9, 4), Trinity (Louisville) (4, 14.0, 4), Western (3, 6.8, 3)

REGION 5 (116.6) - Anderson County (5, 11.2, 2), Franklin County (5, 11.5, 7), Grant County (5, 12.0, 6), North Oldham (5, 11.4, 5), Oldham County (5, 13.5, 5), Scott County (5, 10.5, 6), South Oldham (5, 12.5, 5), Spencer County (5, 13.0, 5), Western Hills (5, 7.3, 7), Woodford County (5, 13.7, 7)

REGION 6 (120.6) - Boone County (6, 9.2, 6), Campbell County (6, 13.8, 6), Conner (6, 11.8, 6), Cooper (6, 10.8, 6), Dixie Heights (6, 10.8, 6), Holmes (6, 6.5, 6), Newport (6, 9.3, 6), Ryle (6, 13.5, 6), Scott (6, 11.9, 6), Simon Kenton (6, 12.8, 6), Walton-Verona (6, 10.3, 6)

REGION 7 (122.5) - Boyle County (7, 13.3, 2), Bryan Station (7, 8.7, 7), Danville (7, 9.3, 2), Henry Clay (7, 12.8, 7), Lafayette (7, 11.5, 7), Madison Central (7, 10.0, 7), Madison Southern (7, 0.0, 7), McCreary Central (7, 10.2, 8), Paul Laurence Dunbar (7, 12.7, 7), Tates Creek (7, 13.0, 7), Wayne County (7, 12.7, 8), Whitley County (7, 8.4, 8)

REGION 8 (122.3) - Ashland Blazer (8, 10.3, 8), Belfry (8, 9.7, 8), Bourbon County (8, 9.3, 7), Boyd County (8, 0.0, 8), East Ridge (8, 8.0, 8), Harrison County (8, 11.9, 7), Jenkins (8, 3.0, 8), Johnson Central (8, 13.1, 8), Lawrence County (8, 5.9, 8), Letcher County Central (8, 11.5, 8), Montgomery County (8, 9.9, 7), Perry County Central (8, 8.8, 8), Phelps (8, 0.0, 8), Pike County Central (8, 9.0, 8), Sheldon Clark (8, 11.9, 8)

The above realignment was approved today. Will go into effect next season.

[ukpridewrestler11 276]

Region 2 looks really weak but my gosh it is spread pretty far! Two time zones haha

[coachteater 70]

Really? Larue, meade and north hardin...not too weak. Region 8 is the one that sticks out to me as being more open

[Wildblueeyes 6]

Wow, travel wise this stinks for Bourbon and Harrison Counties.

[coachteater 70]

Travel wise it sucks, but I'm pretty sure they are both happy with being there.

[smg2 2]

Why did Khasa do this

[KY_WAR_VET 3]

To balance regions not by past records but by participants in order to conduct regional tournaments in one day.

[KY_WAR_VET 3]

The five match rule would have been used for some of the consultation finals in some regions so they had to go to a two day tournament. The new alignment is supposed to fix this issue balancing out the number of teams and participants in reach region and making so each region can be a one day tourney.

As far as Region 2 being weak, they did not loose any teams, they added 4. So they should be a little better than before.

[KY_WAR_VET 3]

So I made a mistake. Anderson, Boyle, and Danville left Region 2. That is going to make a difference.

[raider 7]

The five match rule would have been used for some of the consultation finals in some regions so they had to go to a two day tournament. The new alignment is supposed to fix this issue balancing out the number of teams and participants in reach region and making so each region can be a one day tourney.

As far as Region 2 being weak, they did not loose any teams, they added 4. So they should be a little better than before.

If a tournament has more than eight teams it can not be completed in one day with a traditional bracket. I'm sure KHSAA knows this. I believe the realignment was to balance the regions and no to limit the number of days to complete the regional tournament.

[KY_WAR_VET 3]

This is what I read from the cover letter on the draft to realign the Regions from the KHSAA web site:

November 14, 2012

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

FR: Commissioner Julian Tackett

Asst. Commissioner Michael Barren

RE: 2013-2014 Wrestling Realignment

With the growth of wrestling (more than 15 schools have added in last seven years), many of the regions are taking more than one day to compete. In addition, with the NFHS rules restricted athletes to five bouts in a day (including forfeits), the size of the bracket makes it problematic when they become so large they mandate a second day.

For the last ten or more years, the Association has collected data regarding regional entries. Under the current alignment, the ten-year average number of entries in the regional tournaments is as follows:

Region 1 - 143.8, Region 2 - 115.1, Region 3 - 131.2, Region 4 - 81.6, Region 5 - 97.1, Region 6 - 132.8, Region 7 - 132.2, Region 8 - 122.5

Blah blah blah blah..........

[raider 7]

This is what I read from the cover letter on the draft to realign the Regions from the KHSAA web site:

November 14, 2012

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

FR: Commissioner Julian Tackett

Asst. Commissioner Michael Barren

RE: 2013-2014 Wrestling Realignment

With the growth of wrestling (more than 15 schools have added in last seven years), many of the regions are taking more than one day to compete. In addition, with the NFHS rules restricted athletes to five bouts in a day (including forfeits), the size of the bracket makes it problematic when they become so large they mandate a second day.

For the last ten or more years, the Association has collected data regarding regional entries. Under the current alignment, the ten-year average number of entries in the regional tournaments is as follows:

Region 1 - 143.8, Region 2 - 115.1, Region 3 - 131.2, Region 4 - 81.6, Region 5 - 97.1, Region 6 - 132.8, Region 7 - 132.2, Region 8 - 122.5

Blah blah blah blah..........

Either I'm missing something or they aren't very bright. Anytime you use a a traditional 16 man bracket ( ie more than eight wrestlers) you have to have more than one day to complete the bracket.