Ranger123 43 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I don't want to bash Coach Coomes because I know that he doesn't receive all of the information that he needs to do this effectively. BUT, I think there is some information out there that can be used to make a better ranking system. So, I have searched the web for newpapers and team sites and watched and read about as many meets as possible and come up with my own version of the Kentucky High School Wrestling Rankings. And I welcome any and all criticisms and potential corrections that you have. There are still a few wrestlers that I haven't seen results for and don't have a good idea what weight they are wrestling. So let me know what you have seen if I have something wrong. The first installment of the Rebel Wrestling Rankings #2005-1 (only 1-10, later releases will go to 20+): 103 Way Co Travis Sullivan Un Co Adam Carr PD Jon Voth Wood Co Shane Parks Tri Dan Smith Whit Co Dalton Evans FC Tommy Warren SO Paul Huhnke Sen Elliott Martin NO Andre Zeppa 112 JC Cory Spencer Eas Joaquin Luna Un Co Chance Puckett Way Co Coty Vinsant NO Antonio Zeppa HC Matt Zarth Cam Co Corey Shotwell NH Josh Johnson Scott Gabe Supe CH Mason Bradbury 119 FC Caleb Wood PD Tyler Voth SO Daniel Murner And Co Clayton Stocker Wood Co John Smith Old Co Eric Warner Ryle Sam Scheuer JH Justin Pitcher Sen John Chui Un Co Isaac Ervin 125 SO Derek Scott Wood Co Rusty Parks JH Cassidy Veach Lar Co Stacy Miller Old Co Ben Warner St X Tyler Baines Cald Co Marcus Coleman Con Rashad Brown NH Matt Eck Sou Louis Ashley 130 Lar Co Ozzy Parker Ryle Bryan Peace Mc Cen Eric Bryant Cam Co Ben Rust FC Malcolm Jackson Har Co Bryan Wasson Tri Mike Bowlds AB Trace Stafford Eas Paul Marks Sen Zach Poulton 135 Har Co Josh Ashbrook SC Brandon Howard Tri Ben Case FC Tyler Weldon Lar Co Matt Miller Wood Co Chad Scott Chr Co Cameron Bibbs Scott Chad Ryder NO Tom Kusnir Laf Carlos Gomez 140 Law Co Jacob Murton Scott Daniel Thueneman Sou Joe Powers Har Co Beau Sanders Ft Camp Matt Mines FC Kevin Stewart Hol John Golsby Lar Co Evan Smith Ohio Co Wesley Kiper And Co Jacob Spaulding 145 SK Josh Cooper Cam Co Bryon Wilson Ryle Rob Aylor Wood Co Harrison Courtney Lar Co Patrick Banks Un Co Mitch Ervin Har Co Ryan Ross SO Bryan Ford FC Ben Barger Vall Daniel Rader 152 SK Austin Cooper FC John Wolsiefer Cald Co Cody Traylor Lar Co Scott Wheeler SO Ben Greco NH Ty Wolf CH J. Collins Sen Shandon Hooper Way Co Tim Winchester Cam Co Tom Brownfield 160 Wood Co Chad Fyffe Lar Co Bryant Barnhill DH Brad Denham Cald Co Cody Walls Cam Co Jacob Hildreth SC Adam Dials SO Cody Lasigne CH Brian Roberts NH Matt Baker Tri Allen Tomassetti 171 Wood Co Will Starks Eas Ben Rupp Har Co Gary Doyle NH Mark Jones Lar Co Kyle Carmen SC Ryan Kelly And Co Robert Dillhoff Sen Matt White SO Ryan Houchens Moore Ethan Dunn 189 Wood Co Richard Starks Old Co Alex Wenninger Ryle Greg Ashworth Tri Grant Laswell Lar Co Jake Shipp SO Cameron Hartman PD Douglas Winter Whit Co Singley Scott Michael Haught HC Zack Guiler 215 SO Taylor Scherer Eas Aaron Wise Con Dale Stone NH Steven Dow Lar Co Joe Embree Har Co Travis Aubrey Old Co Daniel Martinko Mc Cen Jacob Watson SC Justin Chaffin JH J. Kerrison 275 Tri Mike Clark PRP Jason Hardin Wood Co Kyle Goodrich Pad Til Bryan Hall Ohio Co Adam Burdin Ft Knox Anthony Bailey CH Daniel Craig NH Matt Ballinger Mc Cen Chris Espinoza Cen Corey Peters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I forgot the team rankings: Woodford County South Oldham Larue County Fern Creek Trinity (Louisville) Harrison County Ryle North Hardin Campbell County Sheldon Clark Union County Oldham County Eastern Paul Dunbar Anderson County Caldwell County Simon Kenton Conner Central Hardin Wayne County Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplinfan 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 After NKAC i like the fact that you have Josh Cooper first at 145. He did beat Aylor, Wilson, and Thuneman all in one weekend's work ... thats amazing. I also think Ozzie Parker is the guy to beat at 130. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just Wrestle 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Those look pretty good actually. I would probably change Warner and Ayler alittle. Put Warner higher up, maybe 2. I bet he wins that weight class. And after last week, put Ayler down alittle more, behind Courtney. They look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119Rider 61 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Look's pretty good to me. Still a lot of work for some kids though to improve themselves in the rankings. Some weights are really starting to look real solid. Like to see that more in Kentucky. We are starting to fill each wieght with more quality wrestlers, than just the top 1 or 2. Nice job , keep up the good work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I still think Aylor will be a force, just may have a tough region to deal with. I have seen Warner this year and think Miller is better, who has been beaten by Veach twice. My goal is to get as many results from the weekend as possible (such as NKAC and Bourbon Bash last week) and update rankings each Wednesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cardinalfan 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 ranger 123 coomes rankings are pretty acurate at the end of the year. give the man time to see people wrestle and get results. people will move weights by jan 15. we will then have a good look. other than the top two or three in each class everthing else is a guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FalconMatt 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 You know it doesnt matter what these ranking say, it doesnt matter till February when the dust is clear and medals are awarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOWsingle140 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 id put mines and goldsby ahead of powers and sanders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOWsingle140 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 and stone ahead of wise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog103 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Sanders beat Goldsby 10-1 and I think he would beat Mines also, I don't know much about the Powers kid. 1.Murton(Law. co.) 2.Thuenaman(Scott) 3.Sanders(Harr. co.) 4.Mines(Ft.Cambell) 5.Goldsby(Cov. Holmes) 6.Powers(Southern) 7.Stewart(Fern Creek) 8.Spualding(Anderson Co.) 9.Kiper(Ohio Co.) 10.Smith(Larue Co.) That's what I think it should be personally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I somewhat agree that these rankings don't mean much, especially once two kids step onto the mat. But I think they are great to generate some excitement around individuals, teams, dual meets, or tournaments. What better way to get some fans interested in coming out to a meet than to say "Come out and see us against Fern Creek, the #4 team in the state" or "we're wrestling Simon Kenton which has 2 kids ranked #1 in the state". And the only way that works is if the rankings are reasonable, credible, and based on as much information as possible, which is what I'm trying to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BACON'S MOM 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Ranger123 good job it looks good to me. Maybe we can get you to do them more often. 8) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOWsingle140 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 ya they look pretty good, nice job.. btw- bulldog, did sanders beat goldsby 10-1 this year or last year? if it was this year thats really good since goldsby only lost to thuneman 13-11. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FalconMatt 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Mines has never wrestler Sanders so check your facts, Matt hasnt lost this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicks Dig Scars 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Nice work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOWsingle140 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 im going to go with... 1. murton 2. thuenaman 3. mines 4. sanders 5. goldsby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog103 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 btw- bulldog, did sanders beat goldsby 10-1 this year or last year? if it was this year thats really good since goldsby only lost to thuneman 13-11. It was this year, at Anderson Co. I think it was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insidetrip 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Nice job. You looked at the results and did the rankings.Keep up the good work.Things will change alot as people make thier weights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pick89 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Looking at the rankings I think they are good but noticed a few wrestlers ranked ahead of people they have lost to this year and not in a close match. 189 has Larue ranked ahead of Dunbar after the Dunbar kid beat him 13-5 at Oldham County Duals. 171 Larue kid is ranked and Dunbar kid beat in a close by score but really not that close of a match. He scored his 2 pts because the Dunbar kid let him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pick89 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I didn't see Joey Sanders from Wayne County ranked anywhere. He is the defending State Champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Where did Sanders defeat Golsby? I'm quite certain Golsby defeated Sanders at the dual at Holmes. Golsby took him down 2 or 3 times in the 1st period then ran out of gas and allowed Sanders to come back and almost tie the match in the 3rd. At the NKAC Golsby was able to match Tuenerman, he did however catch a hip toss that gave him 4 points and tying the match. Golsby took the lead in the 3rd with a switch, then Thuenerman got an escape a point for stalling and finally a takedown to win the match. From what I have seen Golsby wrestles to the potential of his opponents. He only defeated Hovekamp by a couple also. He gets sloppy, but is able to beat anyone on a given day, but also able to lose to anyone on a given day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
possumdaddy 23 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Who has beaten Josh Cooper this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
risingtide160 1 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Harrison Courtney beat Josh Cooper at the Oldham Co. Super Duals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathound 4 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Looking good man, way to do some research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
