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  1. grappler-of-old

    Weight class changes coming

    What I was trying to point out is that there are not that many wrestlers actually 270 and up. (Most who are this wt and above are probably not healthy) I worked with two 300+ this last season one made 285 the other has now reached it after the season. Both are now much more healthy than before. I understand what you are talking about. That is why the classes have changed from 12 in the 80's to 14 now. Problem is where do we cut it off? I have seen the problem of to many wrestlers in the upper weights before, but I believe that most teams don't have that problem. Most have problems with a multitude of middle weight wresters. I have always thought that there should be a 170,185, 200, 230, and Hwt class, and whatever you want for the other 9. that still maintains 5 upper wt classes but separated differently. I think if you went much higher that a 230 wt class there would be very few in the HWT class. I don't really have the numbers, this is just from observation.
  2. grappler-of-old

    Weight class changes coming

    OK I looked it up. This is their last weigh in before post season. 1 Smith (Martin Co) 239.4 2. Pottle (Ohio Co) 268.8 3. Kelly (Christ Co) 259.0 4. Hughes (Simon Ken) 245.9 5. Marshall (Ryle) 247.6 6. Martin (Fern Cr) 263.0 7. May (Pike Co Cen) 282.0 8. Williams (Trinity) 272.4 That is an average of 259.7
  3. grappler-of-old

    Weight class changes coming

    Are there really that many kids who are 285? I would guess that most are around 250-260 What was the weight of the top 8 HWTs this year at state?
  4. grappler-of-old

    Weight class changes coming

    I think that the idea is that there are many more high school kids that weigh in that core area 120-150 than there are bigger high school kids weighing over 200.
  5. grappler-of-old

    Weight class survey

    Having a girls team or event is not different than having an all freshman team or JV team. My take is that KHSAA has now stipulated that when an all girl team is wrestling another all girl team they will use the wt. classes listed. It is sanctioned under the wrestling team, not boy or girl specific.
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    Weight class changes coming

    The only reason I would like the 13 wt. classes is that it will reduce the chance of a tie in duals. Or at least make the 1st criteria in a tie most wt classes won which would determine most ties in duals.
  7. grappler-of-old

    State team scores

    Walton Verona, Calloway Co. West Carter, Frederick Doug, Montgomery Co, and North Bullitt are all repeated on the list on KHSAA
  8. grappler-of-old

    State team scores

    The other team you left off was Boone Co. 0 points.
  9. grappler-of-old

    State team scores

    If you look at KHSAA under awards and honors they kind of have the scores there. Some teams are listed twice. I had 86 teams but I will check again.
  10. grappler-of-old

    2021-2022 Season

    Weekday duals should only be one dual with 2 full squads or a tri with smaller teams. Should be done in about 2 hours. Quick night get the home team some school support and home by 8:00. Can be tough on some making weight but it's the way of the sport. I use to love wrestling weekday duals and I was always cutting hard 10-20 lbs. every year back in the stone age. (but we only had 12 wt. classes back then)
  11. grappler-of-old

    2021-2022 Season

    After this years COVID season do you thin there will be any changes in events? It seems to me that many of the wrestlers/coaches and parents enjoyed the early release on Saturdays. Most events were finished by 3:00 or 4:00PM this last season and everyone seemed to appreciate it. Will this change how many coaches will schedule for next year? There were a lot of 5 and 6 team duals on Saturday along with tournaments with only 8-12 teams. I personally believe this is the way to go, but I would add one or two big tourneys in the mix. For this to happen however more teams will have to host events, and teams will have to be willing to do a little bit of traveling out of their region. However making a 2 hour trip to an event that will be finished in 4-7 hours is not bad. Weigh in's can be a little later and still get home at a decent hour. I would also add that weekday duals have got to make a comeback. Having a weekday dual only helps wrestling. It allows teams to hold home evens to bolster excitement at their school for wrestling. Teams that have no home events or only 1 a year get little notoriety from their student body. It is always good for school spirit/support to have home events.
  12. grappler-of-old

    Team State Qualifiers

    I have been working on this for many many years, update it every year. Most of what I have came from myself (1983-Present) Coach Sellers (1971-1982) and Coach Walls. (1964-1970) Still not complete. I have full brackets back to 1971. This is what I am missing if anyone can help. 1970 only have the top 3 placers. 1969 only have the top 3 placers. 1968 only have the top 3 placers 1967 only have finalists names no other placers, Have the school that qualified a wrestler but no name. 1966 only have finalists names no other placers Have the school that qualified a wrestler but no names, only top 2 team scores. 1965 only have last names for qualifiers. 1964 only have last names for qualifiers.
  13. grappler-of-old

    Team State Qualifiers

    1 Trinity 538 2 Woodford County 517 3 Saint Xavier 516 4 Campbell County 435 5 Union County 420 6 North Hardin 381 7 Christian County 361 8 Fern Creek 351 9 Oldham County 331 10 Hopkinsville 328 11 Simon Kenton 317 12 Eastern 316 13 Seneca 299 14 Fort Campbell 288 15 Harrison County 287 16 Johnson Central 280 17 Larue County 277 18 Henry Clay 263 19 Conner 258 21 Caldwell County 257 20 Martin County 251 22 Fairdale 247 22 Scott 247 24 Pleasure Ridge Park 239 25 Central Hardin 238 26 Ryle 233 27 Wayne County 225 28 Laffayette 213 29 Tates Creek 211 29 South Oldham 211 31 Western 204 32 Moore 191 33 Danville 189 34 Central 180 35 Doss 178 36 Fort Knox 176 37 Valley 174 38 DeSales 159 39 Waggener 153 40 Meade County 150 41 John Hardin 149 42 Franklin County 146 43 Jeffersontown 142 44 Southern 139 45 Paducah Tilghman 129 46 Boone County 127 47 Anderson County 124 48 North Oldham 123 49 Dixie 121 50 Ashland Paul Blazer 119 51 McCreary Central 116 52 Paul Dunbar 109 53 DuPont Manual 98 54 Boyle County 96 55 Newport Catholic 94 56. Ohio County 91 57 Ballard 89 58. Bullitt Central 82 59 Male 76 60 Bryan Station 75 61 Walton Verona 74 62 Perry County Central 73 63 Madison Central 72 64 Holmes 71 65 Montgomery County 70 66 Whitley County 69 67 Westport 67* 68 Kentucky School of the Blind 66 69 Flaget 65* 70 Trigg County 64 71 Bourbon County 62 71 Apollo 62 73 West Hardin 57* 74 Newport 56 75 Frankfort 55 76 Bullitt East 54 77 Calloway County 52 77 Iroquios 52 79 Pike County Central 49 80 Western Hills 48 81 Cooper 47 81 Henderson County 47 83 Atherton 41 83 Belfry 41 83 McCracken County 41 83 Millersburg Military Ins. 41* 83 Nelson County 41 88 Daviess County 40 89 Kentucky Country Day 38 90 Letcher County Central 36 90 University Heights 36 92 East Hardin 35* 92 Taylor County 35 94 Scott County 34 95 Saint Joseph 33* 96 Jessemine County 30* 97 Madison Southern 28 98 Webster County 26 99 Boyd 25 100 Shawnee 24 101 Lawrence County 22 102 Owensboro 21 103 Holy Cross (Lou) 20 103 Spencer County 20 105 North Bullitt 19 105 Pikeville 19 107 Prestonburg 18 108 Grant County 17 109 Bowling Green 16 110 Ahrens Trade 15* 110 Bush 15* 112 Bardstown 13 112 Durrett 13* 112 Franklin Simpson 13 115 Stuart 12* 116 Frederick Douglass 11 116 Great Crossing 11 118 Middlesboro 10 119 Aquinas Prep 9* 119 Corbin 9 119 Covington Catholic 9 122 East Carter 8 122 Holy Cross (Cov) 8 124 Onieda Baptist 7 124 Trinity (Whitesville) 7 124 West Carter 7 127 East Jessamine 5 127 Thomas Jefferson 5* 129 Barren County 4 130 Bishop Brossart 3 130 East Ridge 3 130 Graves County 3 130 Phelps 3 130 West Jessamine 3 135 Hancock 2 135 Knox Central 2 135 Lexington Catholic 2 135 Paintsville 2 139 Breckinridge 1 139 Campbellsville 1 139 Fulton City 1 139 Greenville 1* 139 Marshall County 1 139 Thomas Nelson 1 139 Todd County 1 139 Sayre 1
  14. grappler-of-old

    Team State Placers

    1. Woodford County 276 2. Union County 221 3. Trinity 209 4. Campbell County 207 5. Saint Xavier 178 6. Hopkinsville 146 7 Simon Kenton 135 8. North Hardin 134 9. Christian County 131 10. Fern Creek 116 11. Ryle 113 12. Eastern 105 13. Larue County 101 14. Martin County 100 15. Oldham County 91 16. Johnson Central 90 17. Conner 88 17. Scott 88 19. Henry Clay 86 19. Seneca 86 21. Fort Campbell 83 22. Caldwell County 82 23. Wayne County 75 24. South Oldham 66 25. Harrison County 65 26. Laffayette 64 27. Waggener 61 28. Danville 55 29. Central Hardin 50 30. Fairdale 46 31. Boone County 44 32 Newport Catholic 43 33. Tates Creek 40 34 Walton Verona 39 35. John Hardin 37 35. Western 37 35. Franklin County 37 38. Paducah Tilghman 35 38 Pleasure Ridge Park 35 40. Moore 34 41. Fort Knox 32 41. Jeffersontown 32 42. Dixie 31 42. Flaget 31* 45. Paul Dunbar 29 45 North Oldham 29 47. Doss 25 48. Ballard 24 48. Kentucky School of the Blind 24 48. Westport 24* 51. Boyle 23 51. McCreary Central 23 51. Valley 23 54. DeSales 21 54. Madison Central 21 56. Male 20 57. Central 19 57. Frankfort 19 57. Meade County 19 60. Anderson Co. 17 60. Ohio Co. 17 60. Saint Joseph 17* 63. Ashland Paul Blazer 16 63. Southern 16 63. Trigg County 16 66. Ahrens Trade 14* 67. Bourbon Co 13 67 Cooper 13 67. Millersburg Military Inst. 13 70. Kentucky Country Day 12 71. Bullitt Central 11 71. Montgomery County 11 71. Whitley County 11 74. Apollo 10 74. DuPont Manual 10 74. Holmes 10 74 University Heights 10 78. Newport 9 78. Perry County Central 9 80. Bryan Station 8 80. Nelson County 8 80. Taylor County 8 83. Henderson Co. 7 83. Iroquois 7 85. Calloway County 6 85. Webster County 6 85. West Hardin 6* 88. Jessamine County 5* 88. Lawrence Co 5 88. Madison Southern 5 88. McCracken County 5 88. Prestonburg 5 93. Bullit East 4 93. East Hardin 4* 93. Pike County Central 4 96. Aquinas Prep 3* 96. Belfry 3 96. Grant County 3 96. Letcher County Central 3 96. Western Hills 3 101. Atherton 2 101. Daviess County 2 101. Durrett 2* 101. East Carter 2 101. Lexington Catholic 2 101. Owensboro 2 101. Shawnee 2 108. Bowling Green 1 108. Boyd 1 108. Corbin 1 108. Covington Catholic 1 108. Frederick Douglass 1 108. Graves County 1 108 Great Crossing 1 108. Greenville 1* 108. Hancock 1 108. Holy Cross (Cov) 1 108. Holy Cross (Lou) 1 108. Lexington. Country Day 1* 108. Onieda Baptist 1 108. Pikeville 1 108. Scott County 1 108. Spencer County 1 108. Stuart 1* 108. Thomas Jefferson 1* 108. West Jessamine 1 * NO LONGER A TEAM
  15. grappler-of-old

    State team top 4 placers

    1. Woodford County 206 2. Union County 163 3. Campbell County 145 4. Trinity 143 5. Hopkinsville 109 6. Saint Xavier 106 7. North Hardin 103 8. Christian County 97 9. Fern Creek 95 10. Simon Kenton 90 11. Eastern 68 12. Conner 67 12. Martin County 67 14. Ryle 63 15. Fort Campbell 60 15. Larue County 60 17. Henry Clay 57 18. Seneca 54 19. Oldham County 50 19. Scott 50 21. Waggener 49 22. Caldwell County 48 23. Johnson Central 46 24. Danville 43 25. Newport Catholic 42 26. Laffayette 37 26. Wayne County 37 28. Boone County 34 28. Harrison County 34 28. South Oldham 34 31. Flaget 31* 32. Walton Verona 27 33. Central Hardin 26 33. Western 26 35. Ballard 24 35. Pleasure Ridge Park 24 37. Kentucky School of the Blind 23 37. Westport 23* 39. Fort Knox 22 40. Jeffersontown 20 40. Paducah Tilghman 20 40. Tates Creek 20 43 John Hardin 19 44. Fairdale 18 45. Doss 17 45. Paul Dunbar 17 45. Saint Joseph 17* 48. Dixie 15 48. Frankfort 15 50. Ahrens Trade 14* 50. Central 14 50. Franklin County 14 50. Madison Central 14 54. Boyle 13 54. Millersburg Military Inst. 13 54. Moore 13 57. Trigg County 11 57. Valley 11 59. McCreary Central 10 60. Ashland Paul Blazer 9 60. North Oldham 9 62. DuPont Manual 8 62. Male 8 62. Ohio County 8 65. Meade County 7 65. Southern 7 67. Anderson County 6 67. Apollo 6 67. Hendersn County 6 67. Kentucky Country Day 6 67. West Hardin 6* 72. Lawrence County 5 72. Taylor County 5 72 Whitley County 5 75. Brain Station 4 75. Cooper 4 75. Holmes 4 75 Iroquois 4 75. Jessimane County 4* 75. Nelson County 4 81. Aquinas Prep 3* 81. Belfry 3 81. Bullitt Central 3 81. Calloway County 3 81. DeSales 3 81. Grant County 3 81. Prestonburg 3 88. Bourbon County 2 88. Durrett 2* 88. Lexington Catholic 2 88. Madison Southern 2 88. Newport 2 88. Perry County Central 2 88. University Heights 2 88. Western Hills 2 96. Bowling Green 1 96. Boyd 1 96. Corbin 1 96. Covington Catholic 1 96. East Carter 1 96. East Hardin 1* 96. Graves County 1 96. Greenville 1* 96. Hancock 1 96. Lexington Country Day 1* 96. Montgomery County 1 96. Owensboro 1 96. Shawnee 1 96. Stuart 1* 96. Webster County 1 * NO LONGER A SCHOOL