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  1. grappler-of-old

    BEST OF????

    OK this grandpa will start off. 70's Robbie Clarkston Conner (1977-1981) 5 time state finalist 4 time state champ MOW 1981 80's My vote goes to Troy Cole Conner (1880-1985) 6 time state qualifier, 5 time placer, 4 time finalist, 2 time state champ MOW 1984 90's Livingtson Merritt Hop-town (1992-1997) 6 time state qualifier, 6 time state placer, 5 time top 4, 3 time state champion / Could call a tie 90's Joe Carr Woodford county (1993-1997) 5 time state qualifier 5 time state placer, 5 time state finalist, 4 time state champ. MOW 1997 2000's Harrison Courtney Woodford County (2004-2009) 6 time state qualifier, 6 time state champion, 4 time state champ, MOW 2008 2010's Gotta give it to the 5 timer Brock Ervin Union County 2010-2014 5 time state champ MOW 2014 Only because not a 5 timer a close 2nd 2010's Austin Myers Campbell County (2012-2015) 4 time state champ MOW 2015 This is my opinion based on total career not one individual year. That probably would change some of my opinions. And remember it's just my opinion which are like buttocks, everyone has one.
  2. grappler-of-old

    Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings 2019/2020 - Jan 3

    I believe that is a slippery slope. That allows teams to forfeit to a wrestler they know they can't beat and in turn then hurts that individual who receives the forfeit.
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    Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings 2019/2020 - Jan 3

    At the regional tournament yes but at the Jerry Little holiday tourney no. Makes coaches meetings to long and wrestling gets started to late. And as Falcon said there is no way to know who is better because of record, and wrestling out of state does not always mean better competition. AS for success well...........lets just say I have been around long enough that I have seen my fair share of fist fights at seed meeting.
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    Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings 2019/2020 - Jan 3

    Seed meetings should go really fast anyway. During the season seeding really does not matter. Coaches need only send in their roster and records and go with it. It drives me crazy when we go to a tourney and coaches are arguing over seeds. Especially when its for a 4, 5, or 6. Separate the best 2 and then go with it. The only seeding that really matters is the post season seeds. Make sure the best kids go to the state tourney.
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    State Duals 2020

    I don't think it is an excuse its just they would much rather place high in football than be wrestling state champs. I respect them for that, its not my choice but so be it.
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    State Duals 2020

    wkywrestler; I think the point is that at JC they are football players 1st and wrestlers 2nd. They put more time in football then wrestling comes 2nd.
  7. grappler-of-old

    Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings 2019/2020 - Jan 3

    All the events are already entered in Track, they are just not updated on the roster form. The coach can see the results of his own team, just not the public. At the end of the year all they have to do is press one button to update roster and all are added. Maybe they don't want to take the time to press the button after each event.
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    Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings 2019/2020 - Jan 3

    Why does JC have to post their results? There is no KHSAA requirement to do so. All the results give us is armchair banter, nothing more nothing less. Really not that important. It's only important to those who thing the rankings are important and seems to me that coach Matney does not think they are important, and I for one agree with him. Personally I like looking at who are the better kids, I don't get tied up with what place they are ranked just that maybe they are one of the better kids in the state. Even then when I see someone beat a "ranked kid" I don't really think it is a big deal, I look at how the kid wrestled and such.
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    State Duals 2020

    I was referring to the small school regional qualifier. I know some schools already do not participate in the regional because they know they can't compete and would rather go to an individual tourney that same weekend. The same can be said about the large schools but it happens more often with the small schools because they don't have a full team. Maybe only 7-9 spots filled. Its a decision the coach has to make for his team. Do you go to duals qualifier with 7 kids and lose every dual and your best kids get a few matches or go to an individual tourney where your best kids will get several matches and a guarantee 1 or 2 quality matches. I have been on the small school side where we had 1 or 2 good kids and when we wrestled duals they did not send their best kid to wrestle our best 2 so they could rest up for the next dual. One year wrestling Larue we wrestled 2 out of the 6 matches before Larue forfeited out because they had already won the dual because of our forfeits. Just to keep the record straight. Champions from 1990-2012 (2 events cancelled for bad weather) 14 won by big school 7 by small (Sheldon Clark 1, Larue 5, Union 1) 16 big school runner up 5 small school runner up. Scott 2, Sheldon Clark 1, Wayne co 1, Union Co. 1. So only 5 small schools were competitive with the large schools during that era.
  10. grappler-of-old

    State Duals 2020

    Then you don't understand the split. The split is so that the small schools can compete with the large schools. If you did not split the event then even fewer schools would even compete in the small school regionals. You don't see the all A classic champion in basketball playing the state champion. Or for a better example you don't see the 3A football champion playing the 4,5 or 6 A champion in Football. It's all about expanding the sport of wrestling, the more kids you have qualifying and having success the more kids who will actually play the sport. I personally was against the expansion of the state tourney years ago to the 32 man bracket but it worked more kids qualified and more teams appeared in the state and rosters expanded. I was proven wrong. YES I admit it.
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    Team sport

    Without a doubt wrestling is a brotherhood. I talk to other coaches for other sports and there is not the attachment to other teams like in wrestling. We shake hands before and after each match and at the end of a dual. After beating each other up during the match many wrestlers hug afterwards and talk on the sidelines. No other sport does this many want to get rid of shaking hands after games.
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    Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings 2019/2020 - Dec 19

    Whats the matter did your crystal ball break?
  13. grappler-of-old

    Kentuckywrestling.com HS Rankings 2019/2020 - Dec 19

    Ranger you should have these explanations on a cut and past by now, or auto response.
  14. grappler-of-old

    Wrestling as a team sport

    As I have mentioned it is an individual sport with team aspects. Which is why I categorize it as a group sport. With the above philosophy then there is no such thing as an individual sport. Why then have an individual state tourney? Whether people/wrestlers want to admit it or not they would much rather win a state title in their wt. class than win a team title. Only in duals does the individual actions directly affect the outcome of another team member. In most tournament the individual actions in one mach directly affect another individuals match. Unlike baseball, basketball, football.... a dropped ball affects the other teammates. For years I played team sports before entering wrestling and it was aggravating (for lack of a better word) to do everything correct and see others not and not get a win. And in many cases it was my fault the team lost. When I found wrestling I found I was the ultimate decider if I won or lost not a teammate. Yes I understand that watching another team mate win or loose may mentally affect a kids performance but it does not affect the score of the match directly. Ultimately it does not matter wrestling is the greatest sport no matter which way you look at it.
  15. grappler-of-old

    Contracts for Duals/Tournaments

    If a school wants to send out a 2 year contract they can. There is nothing stopping them from doing so.