Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 I think Andy Lenz is really good, and yes I do know that, however the only history on the mat this year has Brown winning and doesn't explain how Lenz jumps in front of him, I'm not trying to denigrate the ratings that you do, because I think everyone agrees that the job you do is tremendous and few others would even attempt it, I was looking for a explanation as to why.I have been impressed with how competitive Lenz was against some tough competition at 112. So, with the 2 being even I gave Lenz the nod. If Brown wins the next matchup (2 wins this season over Lenz) he gets the spot. Essentially, the two are equal in my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachJ 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 As I read the Josh/Caleb debate I have to laugh because knowing Josh he either doesn't care about being ranked one or two or hides it very well. He just goes out there and does everything he can to win his next match. Also if I was going to bet, and I am a betting man, I would think Caleb is the same way. They do have one common opponent in the top 10, Carmen, but that is not enough to make a clear determination on who is better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestler07 1 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 I think the rankings should be used as motivation and nothing else. If you are ranked first keep working hard to stay there. if you are not then work hard to get there. If you are ranked behind somebody don't complain just work harder and prove you should be ranked ahead of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamthechamp07 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 I agree. Unless you are going to tell me you beat him, what's your point in saying he is overrated. And I believe I have seen Deinlein own you in the past. Just get the job done on the mat and you will move up appropriately.I've seen thomas wrestle our jv kid and he gave him a match and i'm not impressed i'm 1-1 against deinlein this year i lost to him by 2 and beat him by 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bear 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 I've seen thomas wrestle our JV kid and he gave him a match and I'm not impressed I'm 1-1 against deinlein this year i lost to him by 2 and beat him by 3Did Dustin win? You go out there and get wins, it doesn't matter how little or how big a win is a win. But I have to say you cannot get caught up in rankings at the moment because all that matters is what happens on the mat in February. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyoneer 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 its his seanor year, he got 2nd in state and quit!?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARealWrestlingFanatic 1 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 its his seanor year, he got 2nd in state and quit!?!?If you are talking about Chaney, I suspect that a provision of a football scholarship, if that is the reason, stongly discourages him from Wrestling in his senior year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plee 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 I do believe it will be a close match but I still think Johnson will come out on top by 3 or 2 at least.I agree with you there, I think Josh will win it, but i just seriously doubt it will be a "kill". We'll see. That will be another great match to watch for down state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccbcdeke 43 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 If you are talking about Chaney, I suspect that a provision of a football scholarship, if that is the reason, stongly discourages him from Wrestling in his senior year.Deon has been at practice this week and will be back for the Fern Creek/LaRue/Nelson Co dual. He has been in the stands all day at Jefferson Co Tournament of Champions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUSTIN 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 what school are u and ur jv kid from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woolenfromtheoc 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Ranger, at 112 tyler boone and micheal boone are the same person, also his little brother chase boone at 103 pinned korey polley last weekend at the Christian county inv. and beat him by ten in the JV CCI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charger Coach 14 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Yes, I saw Deon today & after talking to him he is supposedly wrestling. That is a good thing. He has talent & will help add depth to the 215 weight class this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Ranger, at 112 tyler boone and micheal boone are the same person, also his little brother chase boone at 103 pinned korey polley last weekend at the Christian county inv. and beat him by ten in the JV CCIThanks for pointing that out. I knew that, but didn't realize I left both on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGREDMACHINE 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 matt neal will dominate against brownfield.... I've even talked to some campbell county kids and they agree.. if it will be close the only reason would be cause brownfield is slightly defensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steel_cut_oatmeal 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 austin stepp 160 from sc beat ben fisher from letcher who is ranked 12th at 171? i guess he changed weight classes? they wrestled at the AMVETS tourney today.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestler07 1 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 Vince staten from McCreary is over rated he was beaten by Sheldon Clark's heavy weight 2-0 with Sheldon controlling the match and only defeated the letcher county heavyweight 7-4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglewrestler12 2 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 I'd say from Sean Gillespie's(Trinity's 119) performance at JCTC that he is just a little bit overrated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebels171 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 Wheres boone in those rankings how is homles better than boone. boone beat them bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#1fan 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 Jefferson County Tournament of Champions things to note-103- casa del valle pinned Huffine/rupp112- Smith pinned weixler119- Noe Majored Gillespie125- Michaels dec. Harper/colston130- ohlman pinned miller135- Poulton Majored Branch and pinned Davis. Barton also had a very close match with davis and beat branch for 3rd140- Watkins majored Wright, Thomas dec. watkins145- Bauer pinned Cahill152- choate dec. mann. Choate dec. Mcneely160- Schneider dec. Wright. Wright pinned George 171- Hitchings pinned Dunn189-???215- Nickel Pinned MessinaHwt- Whitting close dec over Smith and Payne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisionQuest 64 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 Vince staten from McCreary is over rated he was beaten by Sheldon Clark's heavy weight 2-0 with Sheldon controlling the match and only defeated the letcher county heavyweight 7-4.Maybe Sheldon Clark's heavyweight heavyweight is way too far underated. Didn't he also place at Grundy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anklepick 1 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 Jefferson County Tournament of Champions things to note-103- casa del valle pinned Huffine/rupp112- Smith pinned weixler119- Noe Majored Gillespie125- Michaels dec. Harper/colston130- ohlman pinned miller135- Poulton Majored Branch and pinned Davis. Barton also had a very close match with davis and beat branch for 3rd140- Watkins majored Wright, Thomas dec. watkins145- Bauer pinned Cahill152- choate dec. mann. Choate dec. Mcneely160- Schneider dec. Wright. Wright pinned George 171- Hitchings pinned Dunn189-???215- Nickel Pinned MessinaHwt- Whitting close dec over Smith and Payne7th grader Wade Holtsclaw JH has beat Casa Del Valle Senca and James Huffine Southern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleleg16 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 Jefferson County Tournament of Champions things to note-103- casa del valle pinned Huffine/rupp112- Smith pinned weixler119- Noe Majored Gillespie125- Michaels dec. Harper/colston130- ohlman pinned miller135- Poulton Majored Branch and pinned Davis. Barton also had a very close match with davis and beat branch for 3rd140- Watkins majored Wright, Thomas dec. watkins145- Bauer pinned Cahill152- choate dec. mann. Choate dec. Mcneely160- Schneider dec. Wright. Wright pinned George 171- Hitchings pinned Dunn189-???215- Nickel Pinned MessinaHwt- Whitting close dec over Smith and PayneSmith did not pin Wexlier. It was 11-4 And Olhman did not pin Miller. He won by pointsIn the 103 finals it was Bradbury over Hoskinson 8-1.(Hoskinsons nose was bleeding badly and blood time had to be called 3 or 4 times)In the 119 finals it was Martin pinning his kid in the first period. In the 189 finals the Trinity 189 apparently broke his elbow and the match went to the other wrestler by default. The 285 match was very good it was 3 to 4 I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 7th grader Wade Holtsclaw JH has beat Casa Del Valle Senca and James Huffine Southern. Remember to report it both ways. The Seneca kid beat Holtsclaw at WCI last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 All of you Vince Staten haters, have you ever watched high school heavyweights wrestle? On any day anything can happen. Staten won one of the biggest tournaments in KY. Give the kid some credit. I know you teams in Region 8 hate each other with a passion, but try to be a little objective. Okay, he lost a close match to a likely underrated kid from SC. That's why we wrestle the matches and don't let the paper (rankings) decide the outcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachK 2 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 Hitching beat Dunn by points not a pin. It should have been closer but Hitching did a good job of keeping pressure on Dunn and not letting him get a chance to do anything.Jefferson County Tournament of Champions things to note-103- casa del valle pinned Huffine/rupp112- Smith pinned weixler119- Noe Majored Gillespie125- Michaels dec. Harper/colston130- ohlman pinned miller135- Poulton Majored Branch and pinned Davis. Barton also had a very close match with davis and beat branch for 3rd140- Watkins majored Wright, Thomas dec. watkins145- Bauer pinned Cahill152- choate dec. mann. Choate dec. Mcneely160- Schneider dec. Wright. Wright pinned George 171- Hitchings pinned Dunn189-???215- Nickel Pinned MessinaHwt- Whitting close dec over Smith and Payne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
