luvswrestling55 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2015 Are KY HS Wrestling Teams allowed to compete in interstate duals, scrimmage, or compete in any out of state tournaments to keep sharp and maintain their competitive edge during the next 2 plus week period leading up to the STATE tournament? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NO-OX 1 120 Report post Posted February 19, 2015 I was going to make similar post. I have some kids that parents want to take to Indy Nationals. Is that allowable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 Waiting to hear something back on this Too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigedcoach 27 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 no, once regionals were started no more matches or scrimmages. Also going to a USA or AAU tournament during season is prohibited. Its in the state handbook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NO-OX 1 120 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 Does anyone know where exactly in the handbook? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldberg3464 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 This is ridiculous. These kids are forced to wait an extra 2-3 weeks. They are penalized again and cannot wrestled in other events. The KHSAA needs to make and exception. I saw lets continue to change things on these kids and continue to tarnish KY wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldberg3464 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 Its not these kids fault that this tournament was postponed and off season tournament are now starting. This needs to change and now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luvswrestling55 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 I wasn't trying to stir the pot; but I think kids can only lift, run, and beat up their own teammates for so long before it becomes tedious. Boys that qualified are ready and it will be tough on the coaches and kids to stay focused during what will seem like an eternity before they are allowed to go live competitively again. The grind takes its toll. But rules are rules. Hang in their guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogerthat 2 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 I think we need to focus on how to get there focus back. A week of practice and then redraw the brackets . That will get them to refocus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 I would think that since the season has been extended past the time allocated by the state, that the scrimmage limit should be extended also. I don't think this would be much to ask from KHSAA, they should realize that most teams only qualify 3-5 wrestlers and the rest of the team is finished, and are going onto the next season sports (baseball and track). This makes it hard on those individuals that have qualified for the state tourney to find practice partners and such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NO-OX 1 120 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 What about CWA or sessions offered at Lindsey Wilson?allowable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadMadDad 16 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 I can clearly remember the days when teams from the NKY area would practice together before state. But that was also when we had a District/Regional/State set up. After Districts/Regionals you would lose most kids, so that was the only way to go. If you had kids at the same weight classes going to state, they were kept separated. But combined practices were a very good thing as we made several friends from other teams. Once we all got to state, we would be rooting for rival kids to do well as it was just a bit more than a team thing at that point, we were rooting for our new friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eat at Joe's 29 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 From the By-laws - Case BL-9-4- Does Bylaw 9 apply to participants in any sport other than basketball or football? No. There are no restrictions on the student-athletes in sports other than football and basketball as it relates to outside competition during the season or prior to the season beginning. Pages 14,15 talk about this: http://khsaa.org/handbook/20142015/bylaws.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 all of our questions will be answered Monday. They are meeting to develop rule inturprations on Monday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 all of our questions will be answered Monday. They are meeting to develop rule inturprations on Monday. Is this a special meeting or one already scheduled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigedcoach 27 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 Does anyone know where exactly in the handbook? Limitations of seasons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemans34 33 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 So if they allow scrimmages or out of state tourneys, people thinking about Indy this weekend miss their opportunity. Why would it take a week to determine if an exception to the handbook can be made? A simple yes or no shouldn't take almost a week! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 Par for the course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eat at Joe's 29 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 I don't think you need an exception for Indy - although the coaches might hold back on coaching. JIC people didn't want to read through the link above: BYLAW 9: Case BL-9-4- Does Bylaw 9 apply to participants in any sport other than basketball or football? No. There are no restrictions on the student-athletes in sports other than football and basketball as it relates to outside competition during the season or prior to the season beginning. BYLAW 23: Sec. 1) GENERAL PROVISIONS CONCERNING ALL SPORTS AND SPORT-ACTIVITIES a) Playing During School Hours School Time shall not be lost for travel to or from, or participation in, any regular season interscholastic athletic contest. Schedule of Contests on Consecutive Days Contests shall be scheduled so that there are not four consecutive days of competition on any Monday through Thursday period while school is in session. c) Specific Definitions for Ending of School For all interpretations and regulations concerning the ending of the school year, including restrictions on coaching involvement, the end of the school year shall be defined as the earlier of the last day of school or May 31. d) Specific Penalties for Violations - Too Many Contests Any school violating provisions of this Bylaw by playing too many contests shall be penalized in accordance with Bylaw 27 but shall remain eligible for tournament play during the current season. e) Specific Penalties for Violations- Too Many Scrimmages Any school violating scrimmage limitations may be placed on probation, prohibited from participating in preseason scrimmages in that sport for two (2) seasons, and may be prohibited from taking part in KHSAA state championship competition or other penalties in accordance with Bylaw 27. The second violation shall result in automatic suspension. Sec. 14) SPORTS SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS- WRESTLING- BOYS a) Following the opening day of school, there shall be no organized practice prior to October 15. There shall be no more than two (2) practice meets prior to the first regular season contest of that year. c) The first match shall not take place prior to the Monday of Corresponding Week 21. d) The season shall consist of a maximum of seventeen (17) matches in each weight class to be held prior to the beginning of KHSAA state championship tournament competition (region). Tournaments or contests involving three (3) or more schools shall count as one (1) match toward the match limit. e) The opportunity to participate in regular season contests shall end at all levels of play (grades 9-12) on the day prior to the first day for varsity level competition in KHSAA sanctioned postseason events, with the exception that the varsity team may practice and play through its elimination from KHSAA sanctioned tournament play. Following elimination, there shall be no further practice or play during the remainder of the academic school year. f) The KHSAA and the National Federation of State High School Associations shall establish official weight classes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
