eville dad 17 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 It happens , in other states , I wouldn't go that route .Seemed like a very tough tournament with the directors trying to accommodate every one last minute ,,maybe some Of them Should come to their defense and be grateful to ease the onslaught of complaints heading their way ,if it is factual , just sayin , don't come to dinner uninvited and complain cause there isn't enough taters . Great post, but no excuses for showing up uninvited. Congrats to the Tourney folks for pulling that off at all, what a nightmare. Still makes for a long drawn out affair that probably was very frustrating to everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titan96 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 I saw that the top 4 guys at 182 Carmen McDaniel Chamblee and Pledger were all there. What were the seedings like and what were the results? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonMBarnes 13 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 I think 182 went like this: 1st - Chamblee 2nd - McDaniel 3rd - Carman 4th - Pledger Semi's were Chamblee vs Pledger and McDaniel vs Carman (5-3). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lasttakedown 4 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 The seeds were 1.Carmen 2.Chamblee 3.Pledger 4.McDaniel. Carmen and McDaniel met in the semis McDaniel won 7-3. Chamblee and Pledger met in the semis and Chamblee won 8-3 I think? Then Chamblee pinned McDaniel in the third of the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpire 76 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 And didn't get the MOW , that's pretty unheard of . Being a two beating out the 1 , 3 , and 4 , with a pin in finals ????? French must have pinned everyone in the first . And even then I couldn't see it . A class with all four top 4 guys ??????? I agree about showing uninvited but that's what makes ky a great state and it's state a great wrestling state , Hospitality , kindness , , I would not have turned anyone away show up to wrestle be ready for anything any amount of time whatever , I remember ,,,,,,,,,going to a youth tourny at Conner , lights go out power outage .......... Kids end up........... Long but happy day , dodo happens , now look at the results and the memories , remember that damn dragon tourny that took all day all night and .... Yeah that was a helluva match . Sounds like a great tournament to me , Austin bumped to wrestle an Illinois kid with a bad attitude and beat him and steph beat a stud I'll kid in the finals , the days of two bracket wrestling were awesome , funny people complaining about to many HS matches , when youth guys get over 100 lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpire 76 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 And I'm not a ranking expert ,but someone better put Mathews up a bit say around 2 !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fanofwrestling6 14 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 anyone know the top 4 for 170 thanks ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wright1baby 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 Actually, it was Fooks from Bourbon that finished 4th at 182 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigedcoach 27 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 This happens all to often in KY wrestling and IMHO is one of the areas that needs to improve drastically. Its not only in HS but MS too. This is a black eye for KY wrestling and an area that needs to be have focus for improvement from the wrestling community. I dont hear about this problem in other states. Never was a problem when I ran tourneys, You have to look up and just say no sometimes. I have ran tourneys like the WCI , JCTC, the Dragon, and the Big East. It take planning and seeing the big pic. When I left this sport 4 years ago The Dragon was like clockwork. I dont know what happened but sometime being the nice guy gets you slammed.I know running and scoring tournaments is a long process but with the computer software and planning, it shouldnt be a big challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fanofwrestling6 14 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 Probably should have been done on trackwrestling but even still it just seemed odd that teams showed up uninvited ? Was it lack ofcommunication . I've heard of 1 or 2 teams showing up but 6 ? just seems kind of odd. Most of the coaches are pretty organized maybethe director had his emails or cell phone wasn't on ? Still everything got in and obviously some great matches took place. I just can't believe that a tournament with that many prestigious wrestlers one would think they would love to show off there brackets. I still can't find any results such as brackets . Thanks for the coaches and fans here that at least put some updates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 So ... which teams showed up uninvited? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fanofwrestling6 14 Report post Posted January 21, 2013 So ... which teams showed up uninvited?I stand corrected.. 6 showed up without submitting contracts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCB0577 17 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Does anyone have the results and if so please post them. Feels like I am back at the tournament and waiting for the finals. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemans34 33 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Tourney had deep talent at every weight class....a lot of fun for fan/coaches to watch. Absolutely unacceptable to walk out of tourney of that caliber at 1 am! Team trophies were 2012 trophies, they turned down an offer to have it run by trackwrestling, they accommodated too many people and started the tourney much too late. Seed meeting needs to be done ahead of time and teams need to be entered ahead of time and wrestling starts immediately Saturday....period. Dominick Lampe wrestled his butt off vs. Cooper and had him on the ropes most of the match....awesome match....Match of tourney 106 final went OT with late stalling all...Congrats Vega 120 was an excellent match with Adams barely hanging on 138 final between Kahl and Clay Brown was a great match...good win for Kahl 145 Justin Lampe is just too much 160 French went OT to win 195 had a lot of drama with the screaming and hobbling around by the Southern kid, but John Hardin kid just kept going....impressive. HVY Bryant is just plain good beating a much bigger kid in easy fashion. South Oldham may lose a few teams next year because of this debacle (actually heard some stating that on way out "no way we ever come back to this one!") too bad because talent is so good. You just can't have kids wait almost 7 hours before their first match. BS! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True170 3 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Screaming? What did wade do to the kid? Tourney had deep talent at every weight class....a lot of fun for fan/coaches to watch. Absolutely unacceptable to walk out of tourney of that caliber at 1 am! Team trophies were 2012 trophies, they turned down an offer to have it run by trackwrestling, they accommodated too many people and started the tourney much too late. Seed meeting needs to be done ahead of time and teams need to be entered ahead of time and wrestling starts immediately Saturday....period. Dominick Lampe wrestled his butt off vs. Cooper and had him on the ropes most of the match....awesome match....Match of tourney 106 final went OT with late stalling all...Congrats Vega 120 was an excellent match with Adams barely hanging on 138 final between Kahl and Clay Brown was a great match...good win for Kahl 145 Justin Lampe is just too much 160 French went OT to win 195 had a lot of drama with the screaming and hobbling around by the Southern kid, but John Hardin kid just kept going....impressive. HVY Bryant is just plain good beating a much bigger kid in easy fashion. South Oldham may lose a few teams next year because of this debacle (actually heard some stating that on way out "no way we ever come back to this one!") too bad because talent is so good. You just can't have kids wait almost 7 hours before their first match. BS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemans34 33 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Two other memorable matches: 126: Shirkey had Parrot beat. Didn't realize he got a stalling warning on way out of bounds stopping clock at 3 seconds. Whistle blows, he runs backwards and gets stalling point against him. Parrot wins in OT...very tough loss for Shirkey, but great match vs. #2 120: Duncan had Austin down 2 with 13 seconds and didn't optional start, got reversed and 2 very questionable back points against him. Good match, but tough loss for freshman...Austin went on to push Adams to the end in finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemans34 33 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 True 170: He didn't do anything illegal. Kid was trying to escape and John Hardin kid hung on to ankle and said he heard something tear. Southern kid rolled around and screamed to the point I thought the ambulance was coming. He finished and Karate Kid posed his way thru the rest of the match. Hard to tell what was acting and what was legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplehed 8 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Few observations from the corner 1. track wasnt used bc of the WiFi or lack of, or perhaps it could have been used to at least do the seeding. 2. Certain coaches used a loop hole to work over the meeting. Control was lost at 106 in the seed meeting. Criteria was gray instead of black and white. Some coaches were actually wasting fresh air by saying their kid placed higher than another in a tournament, as if someone really gave a crap. 3. Its one thing to seed the tournament its another to seed to avoid competition which is exactly what several did. If you dont want to see the competition go to a different tournament. I thought that was very petty amongst some coaches. 4. Lesson learned. Trip- set the criteria, hold the ground, use Track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemans34 33 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Amen on #4. The running was at 126, and it sounded ridiculous.....and didn't work out their favor anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites