Ranger123 43 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 I was just wondering how many schools have never had a state champ. Does anyone out there have a spreadsheet showing each school and number of state champs? For example:Doss 0Valley 0Harrison County 2Woodford County 38 (during Parks' tenure, not sure about total) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kdsmith27 14 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Its not a spreadsheet, but it list all the winners.http://www.atfreeforum.com/kyusawrestling/viewtopic.php?t=32&mforum=kyusawrestling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Yeah, I've seen that, but was hoping someone had done the hard work of counting the winners by team. I was just wondering how many teams have never won a state title. My guess is that there are quite a few; maybe half of the current teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 http://www.khsaa.org/records/wrestling/teamtitlerecords.pdfTry this link. Oops sorry that only shows the team titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulldog-leader 56 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Ranger I have the list of all the individuals that have wrestled in the state tourney since 1971. It is broken down in teams. Here is the list of state champions. (This list is missing 1964-1970 and 1976. I have not updated it to include 2006 either, and just got the 1976 state bracket, but still have not added it to the list.1. Woodford County 432. Hopkinsville 283. Fern Creek 274. Union County 225. Christian County 216. Conner 197. Saint Xavier 187. Simon Kenton 189. Sheldon Clark 1710. Campbell County 1510. Henry Clay 1510. Trinity 1513. Eastern 1413. North Hardin 1415. Fort Campbell 12 16. Waggener 1117. Danville 917. Scott 919. Oldham County 820. Caldwell County 721. Boone County 6*21. Larue County 621. South Oldham 621. Wayne County 625. Ballard 525. Doss 525. Newport Catholic 5*25. Ryle 525. Tates Creek 530. Flaget 4*30. Jeffersntown 430. Lawrence Co. 430. Seneca 430. Western 435. Central Hardin 235. Fort Knox 235. Frankfort 235. Harrison County 235. Holmes 235. PRP 241. Ashland Paul Blazer 141. Belfry 1*41. Boyle 1*41. Central 141. Faridale 141. Franklin County 141. Johnson Central 141. Laffayette 141. Manuall 141. Owensboro 1*41. Paul Dunbar 141. Prestonburg 141. Trigg County 1*41. Valley 141. West Hardin 1* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Too late, I already did it. I have 2006 included. Very interesting; I was close. About 34 teams still with a goose egg (not sure some of the teams are still competing), though some of the programs are relatively new (Letcher, Bullitt, Whitley, etc). Woodford has a streak of 12 consecutive years with a winner (totaling 30 champions). Next best streak is Simon Kenton with 7. North Hardin had an amazing 13 year streak from 1964 to 1976.TEAM TOTALWoodford County 50Hopkinsville 34Fern Creek 31North Hardin 29Union County 25Christian County 22Conner 19Simon Kenton 19St. Xavier 18Trinity (Louisville) 18Sheldon Clark 17Fort Campbell 16Campbell County 15Eastern 15Henry Clay 15Kentucky School f/t Blind 12Boone County 11Newport Catholic 11Waggener 11Ahrens 9Danville 9Scott 9Seneca 9Oldham County 8South Oldham 8Ballard 7Caldwell County 7Larue County 7Wayne County 7Flaget / Male 6Millersburg Military Inst. 6St. Joseph Prep 6Doss 5Lawrence County 5Ryle 5Tates Creek 5Jeffersontown 4Western 4Westport 3Central Hardin 2Fort Knox 2Frankfort 2Harrison County 2Holmes 2Pleasure Ridge Park 2Ashland Blazer 1Belfry 1Boyle County 1Central 1Dupont Manual 1Fairdale 1Franklin County 1Johnson Central 1Lafayette 1Owensboro 1Paul Dunbar 1Prestonsburg 1Southern 1Trigg County 1Valley 1West Hardin 1Anderson County 0Apollo 0Atherton 0Bourbon County 0Bryan Station 0Bullitt Central 0Calloway County 0Campbellsville 0Daviess County 0DeSales 0Dixie Heights 0Henderson County 0Holy Cross (L) 0Iroquois 0John Hardin 0Kentucky Country Day 0Letcher County Central 0McCreary Central 0McLean County 0Montgomery County 0Moore 0Nelson County 0Newport 0North Oldham 0Ohio County 0Oneida Baptist 0Paducah Tilghman 0Perry County Central 0Pike County Central 0Shawnee 0University Heights 0Webster County 0Western Hills 0Whitley County 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kdsmith27 14 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Good Job Ranger123. Very interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulldog-leader 56 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Ranger When did Flaget change to Male? was it a change of name or redistricting with a new school? East and West Hardin became Central in 1990 I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Ranger When did Flaget change to Male? was it a change of name or redistricting with a new school? East and West Hardin became Central in 1990 I think. I don't know if the Flaget/Male change was officially a change. That's just what I recall the way Louisville folks historically refer to it. I don't really know the details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathound 4 Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Here's the numbers that I have. Mine are only since 1996 because thats as far as I've gotten.# Woodford County 27# Sheldon Clark 11# Simon Kenton 9# South Oldham 8# St. Xavier 8# Scott 8# Larue County 7# Fern Creek 7# Wayne County 7# Campbell County 6# Oldham County 6# Henry Clay 6# Lawrence County 5# Ryle 5# Hopkinsville 4# Christian County 4# Trinity (Louisville) 3# Union County 3# Seneca 3# Tates Creek 2# Eastern 2# Paul Dunbar 1# Franklin County 1# Conner 1# Ballard 1# Jeffersontown 1# Central Hardin 1# Prestonsburg 1# Ashland Blazer 1# North Hardin 1# Southern 1# Harrison County 1------------------------And here is a chart of a regional analysis since 1996Region Last Year Last 5 Yrs Lifetime Total1 0 3 112 1 5 93 1 1 14 0 4 145 4 16 256 1 13 297 5 15 388 2 13 25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eville dad 17 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 This is interesting to review:I am impressed with South Oldham's # of champions. They are definitely a top team in the past 10 yrs. They really help region 5 to be one of the top regions with champs in the past 5 - 10 yrs. I hadnt really thought of it but they had 3 State Champs last year, Murner, Scott and Scherer, thats really impressive to have 3 champs from one team. They have lost all three to graduation and it will be interesting to see how quickly they rebuild. They have some good kids returning, a deep squad with kids ready to step up and they have a solid middle school team to replenish the ranks through the years. Coach Fiser has built a nice program there. Does anyone know how long South Oldham has had a wrestling program?The other team to rise to the top in the past 10 years is Larue, they are loaded this year with lots of seniors. They could add to their list of State Champs this year and then it will be their turn to rebuild. Should be fun to see these relatively new powers utilize their depth to stay on top. Both schools are good examples of how programs develop and maintain consistency through good feeder programs and strong motivated coaching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulldog-leader 56 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 I'm not sure when South Oldham started a team, but I do have the following stats.First state Qualifier.1990 David Mitchell----152Brian Fletcher----189First State Placers1994Ryan McGuffin-----112---6thConrad Wilmoski--119---4thFirst Finalist1997Mike Hart-----135---2nd (only time he qualified for state)First State Champions2003Billy Whitehouse-----130Steve Lovewell-------145Nick Fiser-------------160There totals are.State Qualifiers--------109State Placers-----------45Top 4 placers----------27Finalists----------------15State Champs----------9MVW-------------------0Larue County.First Qualifier 1993Hunt-------189 (I don't have a 1st name)First Placer1997Jason Detre------189----4thFirst Finalist 1998Jason Detre------189---1stFirst State Champ 1998Jason Detre----------189Larue Co. stats.State Qualifiers----------128State Placers-------------47Top 4 placers------------29Finalists------------------13Champions---------------7MVW----------------------1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DAWG6 Report post Posted August 4, 2006 I'm not sure when South Oldham started a team, but I do have the following stats.First state Qualifier.1990 David Mitchell----152Brian Fletcher----189First State Placers1994Ryan McGuffin-----112---6thConrad Wilmoski--119---4thFirst Finalist1997Mike Hart-----135---2nd (only time he qualified for state)First State Champions2003Billy Whitehouse-----130Steve Lovewell-------145Nick Fiser-------------160There totals are.State Qualifiers--------109State Placers-----------45Top 4 placers----------27Finalists----------------15State Champs----------9MVW-------------------0Larue County.First Qualifier 1993Hunt-------189 (I don't have a 1st name)First Placer1997Jason Detre------189----4thFirst Finalist 1998Jason Detre------189---1stFirst State Champ 1998Jason Detre----------189Larue Co. stats.State Qualifiers----------128State Placers-------------47Top 4 placers------------29Finalists------------------13Champions---------------7MVW----------------------1How does a guy with a login name bulldog-leader know so much about LaRue.You would draw a conclusion this person was from John Hardin BullDawgs :evil: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulldog-leader 56 Report post Posted August 4, 2006 There ismore than just one bulldog team in the bluegrass. Look north young man. 8-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern112 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 Thanks to joe powers Southern now has a champ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salt140 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 I don't know if the Flaget/Male change was officially a change. That's just what I recall the way Louisville folks historically refer to it. I don't really know the details.Male is one of the oldest schools in louisville. Flaget did not change into male. Flaget closed and most of the kids went to St. X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eville dad 17 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 I think Flaget became Holy Cross, can anyone confirm that?Dupont Manual and Male used to be the same school. They divided up the original Dupont Manual and created Male. Ever wonder why Male uses the letter "H" instead "M"? Any alumni out there that can answer with the reason why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest former_fc_wrestler Report post Posted August 24, 2006 Ever wonder why Male uses the letter "H" instead "M"?I asked a Male student and they said that it was because Manual was already using the "M", the "H" stands for High School. :| as if they were the only one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulldog-leader 56 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 I talked to a friend of mine who lived in Lou. According to him Flaget closed. Male built a new school to where old Flaget use to be years later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eville dad 17 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 OK so was it the downtown building that housed Flaget and then later Male before it moved out to Preston? I think it was the old Bishop David that became Holy Cross. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 I talked to a friend of mine who lived in Lou. According to him Flaget closed. Male built a new school to where old Flaget use to be years later.I guess that's what I was thinking when I thought the two were "the same". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 OK so was it the downtown building that housed Flaget and then later Male before it moved out to Preston? I think it was the old Bishop David that became Holy Cross.Holy Cross was actually the consolidation of Bishop David and some catholic girls school (which I can't remember right now). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 Ranger could it have been St. Joseph? that combined with Biship David to make Holy Cross? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted August 26, 2006 Ranger could it have been St. Joseph? that combined with Biship David to make Holy Cross?I just looked it up. It was Angela Merici Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
green goblin 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2006 Ranger,I don't know what Louisville folks you have been talking to but Flaget High School was a private Catholic High school that served the West end of Louisville untill it closed in 1974. Louisville Male High School is a public school that has served the Jefferson county Public school system for more than 100 years. The two have not ever for any reason historic or not been related. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites