State Duals

[iamthechamp07 0]

when will the pools be decided and put out i'm very curious

[blah 0]

What is the format for the state duals anyway? Are they in 4 pools, they round robin then match up AB and CD then wrestle again for championship? This sounds like they way it would be conducted but just checking.

[wrestlejoe 1]

If I remember correctly... yes... that is the format... but they usually don't set the pools until the morning of the duals.

[ubtappin 1]

Do they start Friday evening or Saturday morning?

[supernat 11]

State duals will be Saturday only. They usually seed the top four teams. After that they place the four other Regional winners into a pool. Then the coaches make sure that the #2 seeds from each region are placed on to the opposite side of the bracket from their region's winner.

[supernat 11]

Are these the sixteen teams that will be there?

Region 1: Union Co., Ohio Co.

Region 2: Larue Co., Nelson Co.

Region 3: Meade Co., Southern

Region 4: Trinity, St. Xavier

Region 5: Oldham Co., South Oldham (I really don't know this one, guessing)

Region 6: Campbell Co., Simon Kenton

Region 7: Woodford Co., Tates Creek

Region 8: Johnson Central, Sheldon Clark

Here is a potential way the pools will play out. They could go many ways, this is just one scenario.

Pool A:(#1)Trinity, (#8) Meade Co., Sheldon Clark, Simon Kenton

Pool B:(#4) Woodford Co.,(#5) Union Co., So.Oldham, Nelson Co.

Pool C:(#3) Larue Co., (#6) Oldham Co., Tates Creek, Southern

Pool D: (#2) Campbell Co., (#7) Johnson Central, St. Xavier, Ohio Co.

[I-pinned-em-all 0]

Does anyone have the results of head to head duals with each team?

I believe Larue beat Trinity in a dual, therefore, how can Trinity be a number one seed? Opinion rankings are one thing, but factual results should prevail.

Did Union beat Larue in a dual?

Did Union wrestle Trinity in a dual?

Unfortunately, Campbell County hasn't wrestled any of the top 5 teams.

[supernat 11]

I know Union Co. has lost to Tates Creek. I believe they have also lost to a couple of other teams as well. In reality Woodford Co. or Campbell Co. might have the claim to #1, I was not aware that Union beat Trinity.

[go4thepin 0]

Are these the sixteen teams that will be there?

Region 1: Union Co., Ohio Co.

Region 2: Larue Co., Nelson Co.

Region 3: Meade Co., Southern

Region 4: Trinity, St. Xavier

Region 5: Oldham Co., South Oldham (I really don't know this one, guessing)

Region 6: Campbell Co., Simon Kenton

Region 7: Woodford Co., Tates Creek

Region 8: Johnson Central, Sheldon Clark

Here is a potential way the pools will play out. They could go many ways, this is just one scenario.

Pool A:(#1)Trinity, (#8) Meade Co., Sheldon Clark, Simon Kenton

Pool B:(#4) Woodford Co.,(#5) Union Co., So.Oldham, Nelson Co.

Pool C:(#3) Larue Co., (#6) Oldham Co., Tates Creek, Southern

Pool D: (#2) Campbell Co., (#7) Johnson Central, St. Xavier, Ohio Co.

If you look at the other state dual feed, it was South Oldham as the 1 and Oldham as the 2.

[SOWrestler 0]

Are these the sixteen teams that will be there?

Region 1: Union Co., Ohio Co.

Region 2: Larue Co., Nelson Co.

Region 3: Meade Co., Southern

Region 4: Trinity, St. Xavier

Region 5: Oldham Co., South Oldham (I really don't know this one, guessing)

Region 6: Campbell Co., Simon Kenton

Region 7: Woodford Co., Tates Creek

Region 8: Johnson Central, Sheldon Clark

Here is a potential way the pools will play out. They could go many ways, this is just one scenario.

Pool A:(#1)Trinity, (#8) Meade Co., Sheldon Clark, Simon Kenton

Pool B:(#4) Woodford Co.,(#5) Union Co., So.Oldham, Nelson Co.

Pool C:(#3) Larue Co., (#6) Oldham Co., Tates Creek, Southern

Pool D: (#2) Campbell Co., (#7) Johnson Central, St. Xavier, Ohio Co.

South Oldham isn't going, we had three guys get injured last weekend at the dragon and they cant wrestle this weekend and we are forfeiting our #1 seed to Oldham and North Oldham will take the #2 seed i believe.

[Ranger123 43]

Does anyone have the results of head to head duals with each team?

I believe Larue beat Trinity in a dual, therefore, how can Trinity be a number one seed? Opinion rankings are one thing, but factual results should prevail.

Did Union beat Larue in a dual?

Did Union wrestle Trinity in a dual?

Unfortunately, Campbell County hasn't wrestled any of the top 5 teams.

I can't find a result where Larue beat Trinity.  I know they beat Union.

[BigBossMan 21]

I don't think Larue and Trinity have wrestled.

Only the top 4 teams are seeded. I think that the other 4 region winners draw into a pool. Then the runner-ups draw into a pool.

Top for from information presented so far:

Pool A:(#1) Trinity

Pool B:(#4) Woodford Co.

Pool C:(#2) Campbell Co./Larue Co.

Pool D:(#3) Campbell Co./Larue Co.

Doesn't matter between #2 & #3 seeds really, just #4.

[KYgrappler 4]

I see them being seeded as such:

1)Trinity

2) Larue

3) Woodford

4) Union

And if SoOldham drops out does that mean NorthOld gets their spot or the host team (Henry Clay) gets to wrestle?

[possumdaddy 23]

I would say trinity #1  campbell #2  woodford #3  larue #4

[DrCradle 0]

Here's a copy from the official form:

2009 KENTUCKY DUAL STATE WRESTLING CHAMPIONSHIP

20TH Annual Kentucky Dual State Wrestling Championship

Henry Clay High School, Lexington, KY

Saturday, January 31, 2009

16 Teams

Weigh-ins start at 8:00 AM

Seeding meeting immediately after weigh-ins

1st round action begins at 9:30 AM

Scheduling of Matches

[Ranger123 43]

So Simon dropped out and Ryle is in.  They will make one of the top 4 very unhappy.

[KYgrappler 4]

Ahhh. This changes quite a bit.  Unseed campbell co., imo.

[Ranger123 43]

Ahhh. This changes quite a bit.  Unseed campbell co., imo.

Not sure about that.  I have heard that only the teams that come in as #1 from their region are considered for seeding.  Ryle will come in as #2 from Region 6.  That's why I say one of the seeded teams will be quite unlucky to have Ryle in their pool.  If you knock Campbell out of the seedings, then I predict possibly 2 of the top seeds will not win their pool.  IMO.

[KYgrappler 4]

Oh, I was not aware of that rule. 

But I know some coaches won't care. You have to beat the best to be the best, so why not do it earlier in the day?

[Mortal 0]

So Simon dropped out and Ryle is in.  They will make one of the top 4 very unhappy.

Why would sk drop out of state duals though?

[Ranger123 43]

Oh, I was not aware of that rule. 

But I know some coaches won't care. You have to beat the best to be the best, so why not do it earlier in the day?

Having the tougher road can really affect the lineup by the finals.  Imagine Trinity has to battle through Ryle, Johnson Central, and Oldham in the pool, then have Larue in the semis and Campbell in the final.  I use this example because Ohlmann would have a tough 4 matches before Brown in the final.  Brown could have wrestled 4 fish up to that point and barely broken a sweat.  So overall it is obviously better to have an easier road into the finals to increase your chances of being fresh for the big dual.

[possumdaddy 23]

Thats how its been in the past only the #1 get seeded

[I-pinned-em-all 0]

Ahhh. This changes quite a bit.  Unseed campbell co., imo.

IMO, Kygrappler should not be allowed admission to the state duals.

[grappletoes 0]

ranger 123 are you just starting rumors????

[I-pinned-em-all 0]

Ryle is clearly a top 5, even top 3 team in the state. The tournament will be much more exciting with Ryle present.  Can someone shed some light on much Ruschell paid Wilburs(SK coach) to get the spot!