risingtide160 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 If you have a kid in middle school who is doing well on the high school level, why would you bring the kid back down to wrestle middle school? It seems foolish to me taking a chance at getting him hurt in a middle school tourney and hurting his high school career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
high crotch 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 because these kids have a right to go and compete for a state championship against kids their own age Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogwood 2 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 Many middle schoolers are filling spots on the high school team to get experience. Not all teams are located close enough to other programs to make middle school wrestling a successful program on its own. They need to be able to shine in their own environment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 Wish unions middle school was allowed to wrestle with the high school. there are some guys that might make the lineup. School Board rule doesnt allow middle schoolers to participate in high school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachJ 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 If they didn't go to middle school region or state they would be wrestling in a high school event so just as much chance to get hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboy 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 If the kids are that good to wrestle both high school and middle school then they deserve to go down to middle school and put the pedal to the metal.I agree with coachJ on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 If you have a kid in middle school who is doing well on the high school level, why would you bring the kid back down to wrestle middle school? It seems foolish to me taking a chance at getting him hurt in a middle school tourney and hurting his high school career.Hes a middle school kid he has a team that needs him at state not some tournament that doesnt really matter in high school hes got 4 years for that :| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestler07 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I believe that once a wrestler makes it to State in High school he shouldn't be allowed to wrestle middle school anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 If you have a kid in middle school who is doing well on the high school level, why would you bring the kid back down to wrestle middle school? It seems foolish to me taking a chance at getting him hurt in a middle school tourney and hurting his high school career.why in some high school regions one match will get you into state :| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestler07 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 yes but you also have kids that do good at high schol state and then easily win middle school state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
possumdaddy 23 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I see your point Tide. It doesnt really make sense to me to take the chance on the kid getting hurt if he has the chance to do well on the high school level.Middle school wrestling is the opportunity to get you ready for high school wrestling so if the kid is ready for high school why take the chance on him getting hurt in a m.s. tourney. Noone goes to college from middle school, its what they do in high school that colleges care about but if the m.s. kid can do it on the high school level it really doesnt make alot of sense to keep him wrestling m.s. Districts that dont allow m.s. kids on high school teams is a different story they have no choice even if they could place at high school state level. Just my opinion but from being in that position with my son,it was a no brainer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plee 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 we've had this discussion at the coaches meetings many times....and it's been a thread on this site before. the reason it is not a rule is because most people feel it is a coaches decision on what is best for the kid. 1 h.s. coach will say "I'm not risking a possible injury - the kid is too valuable to my h.s. team" another h.s. coach will say "you only have 1 chance to be a m.s. state champ, let the kid compete". It's a judgement call. Personally, i feel it's an honor to be a m.s. state champ and it's important to the kids...let them compete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibwrestlin 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Are middle school wrestlers wrestling in high school only of there is an open spot on the high school team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plee 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Are middle school wrestlers wrestling in high school only of there is an open spot on the high school team? i wouldn't say so, a lot of them are legitimately the best in that spot. josh johnson was a runner up as an 8th grader, Matt Sloan took 3rd as an 8th grader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kdsmith27 14 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Something that must be considered is that the top 2 MS Wrestlers in each weight class go on to compete on Team Kentucky representing KY in Regional and National Duals. This alone is a good reason to have all MS wrestlers eligible to wrestle in our region and state competition. The best MS wrestlers should be representing Kentucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Something that must be considered is that the top 2 MS Wrestlers in each weight class go on to compete on Team Kentucky representing KY in Regional and National Duals. This alone is a good reason to have all MS wrestlers eligible to wrestle in our region and state compete. The best MS wrestlers should be representing Kentucky.yes it gives the middle school kids a shot a nationals when if you have a kid that could place in high school but not go to nationals then dont you think that kid would want to go to nationals and maybe be an all american thats not something that happens alot in kentucky :| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibwrestlin 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 would seem to me that it shouldn't be allowed for a middle schooler to take a high schoolers spot on a high school team no matter how good they are. I am not sure of the rules on this. Does each County have their own rules since Unions seems to be different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARealWrestlingFanatic 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 would seem to me that it shouldn't be allowed for a middle schooler to take a high schoolers spot on a high school team no matter how good they are. I am not sure of the rules on this. Does each County have their own rules since Unions seems to be different?Or to put it more directly, this is a High School program and I believe participation should be limited to those individuals who are in High School. There are well developed programs for the athletes who are in middle school already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 would seem to me that it shouldn't be allowed for a middle schooler to take a high schoolers spot on a high school team no matter how good they are. I am not sure of the rules on this. Does each County have their own rules since Unions seems to be different?i dont know about other schools but at our school and im sure at others its the best wrestler will wrestle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestler07 1 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 at my school if a high schooler is in a weight class they start even if the middle schooler is better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 i dont know about other schools but at our school and im sure at others its the best wrestler will wrestlehuh well different coaches do different stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 Or to put it more directly, this is a High School program and I believe participation should be limited to those individuals who are in High School. There are well developed programs for the athletes who are in middle school already.What about those numerous progtams that do not have middle school programs. Should those wrestlers not wrestle at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 What about those numerous progtams that do not have middle school programs. Should those wrestlers not wrestle at all? i say all wrestlers middle school or lower if your the best you should wrestle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yodawrestles 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2008 This is a decision that will vary from person to person although ultimately it should be up to the coach. Personally i think children should be able to enjoy their childhood and the pressure and stress at a H.S level is vastly different. Sure the child may adapt today but how will it affect their entire development. Sometimes young coaches and overly enthusiastic parents forget the growth of a youth in this sport is a marathon and not a sprint. I have seen kids actually hurt their development by bumping up from E.S to M.S or from M.S to H.S. No matter the sport championships are won with fundamentals and many times wrestlers who bump up learn hundreds of more moves before they have mastered the the basics. This is a grievous mistake that is rarely corrected and usually ends in frustration with the youth never fulfilling their true potential. I ve also seen some of the greatest technicians compete and many times the deciding factor was simply who had the best high crotch or who could score best off a sprawl. Everyone likes plump juicy apples but most forget it is the development of the root system will decide how the tree will grow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 This is a decision that will vary from person to person although ultimately it should be up to the coach. Personally i think children should be able to enjoy their childhood and the pressure and stress at a H.S level is vastly different. Sure the child may adapt today but how will it affect their entire development. Sometimes young coaches and overly enthusiastic parents forget the growth of a youth in this sport is a marathon and not a sprint. I have seen kids actually hurt their development by bumping up from E.S to M.S or from M.S to H.S. No matter the sport championships are won with fundamentals and many times wrestlers who bump up learn hundreds of more moves before they have mastered the the basics. This is a grievous mistake that is rarely corrected and usually ends in frustration with the youth never fulfilling their true potential. I ve also seen some of the greatest technicians compete and many times the deciding factor was simply who had the best high crotch or who could score best off a sprawl. Everyone likes plump juicy apples but most forget it is the development of the root system will decide how the tree will grow.i agree with all that was said right there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
