anonomowrestling11 3 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Who so you guys believe are the best 15 P4P wrestlers in louisville? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 A lot of St. X, Trinity, Fern Creek, and Male kids... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Champs- Jorge Vega, Keegan Duncan, Ben Barton, Tyler Frankrone, Kohl Dodd, Runner Ups- Zane Brown, Bobby Poynter, AJ Bindner, Nathan Haddad, Mikey Smith, Brandon Reed 4th place: Bryce Hoffman 5th place: Michael beets, Connor Cambron, Nathan Thompson, Hudson Heidorf That's the 16 top placers in Louisville Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Fern Creek: 5 (two champs, one runner up, one 4th, one 5th) Trinity: 4 (three champs, one 5th) Moore: 2 (two runner ups) St. X: 2 (one runner up, one 5th) Male: 1 runner up Iroquois: 1 runner up Valley: 1 fifth place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 And now to answer the question fully. My honest top 15 P4P would be: 1. Frankrone 2. Barton 3. Vega 4. Duncan 5. Dodd 6. Brown (its so hard for me to not have him ranked over a state champ, particularly Vega) 7. Smith 8. Bindner 9. Haddad 10. Reed 11. Poynter 12. Hoffman 13. Heidorf (again, so difficult not to have him ranked above some others) 14. Beets 15. Cambron Thompson is the one that doesnt make the top 15 for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonomowrestling11 3 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Nice list you guys . Couldnt agree more with you 385 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tja 150 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Off topic but a question about a Louisville kid is it a sure thing Zane goes to Male for High School ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Off topic but a question about a Louisville kid is it a sure thing Zane goes to Male for High School ? Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Breakhimdown13 1 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Hayden vinegar- 2x placer, third this last year. Not top 15 in Louisville? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Oh gosh I forgot all about Hayden! DuPont Manual slipped my mind completely. He would have to be 11th overall, bumping everyone down a spot, knocking Cambron out of the top 15 (in my opinion) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tja 150 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Oh gosh I forgot all about Hayden! DuPont Manual slipped my mind completely. He would have to be 11th overall, bumping everyone down a spot, knocking Cambron out of the top 15 (in my opinion)how would the list look if you took the seniors off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Without seniors: Champs: 1. Keegan Duncan, 2. Ben Barton, 3. Tyler Frankrone Runner Up: 4. Zane Brown, 5. AJ Bindner, 6. Brandon Reed 3rd Place: 7. Hayden Vinegar 4th Place: Nobody 5th Place: 8. Connor Cambron, 9. Hudson Heidorf 6th Place: 10. Mikey Klein, 11. Austin Cook, 12. Dallas Miles 7th Place: 13. Garrett Chandler 8th Place: Nobody Blood Round: 14. Konner Kraezig, 15. Aaron Duncan, 16. Bilal Mamedov, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 Top 16 Returning Louisville Wrestlers: 1. Frankrone 2. Barton 3. Duncan 4. Brown 5. Bindner 6. Reed 7. Vinegar 8. Heidorf 9. Cambron 10. Miles 11. Klein 12. Cook 13. Chandler 14. Kraeszig 15. Duncan 16. Mamedov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tja 150 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 I might be mistaken but I think Vinegar is a senior still a very solid group of wrestler's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8798 45 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 And now to answer the question fully. My honest top 15 P4P would be: 1. Frankrone 2. Barton 3. Vega 4. Duncan 5. Dodd 6. Brown (its so hard for me to not have him ranked over a state champ, particularly Vega) 7. Smith 8. Bindner 9. Haddad 10. Reed 11. Poynter 12. Hoffman 13. Heidorf (again, so difficult not to have him ranked above some others) 14. Beets 15. Cambron Thompson is the one that doesnt make the top 15 for me. Is this just guys who wrestled in State? If not, I would add Lampe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Is this just guys who wrestled in State? If not, I would add Lampe. Yeah. Obviously Dom would be on there. Probably #2 behind Frankrone. But I just picked out Louisville kids and how they placed at state this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nkawtg 137 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Don't you guys have to consider the OC schools in this? Half those Trinity kids live in Oldham anyway. Also, it's too easy to just list previous state placement. Make it interesting. Just because Wrestler A took 3rd doesn't make him better than Wrestler B who took 8th at a different weight class. Some kids overachieved and won't match that next year while others underachieved and are working extra hard because they have something to prove. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Don't you guys have to consider the OC schools in this? Half those Trinity kids live in Oldham anyway. Also, it's too easy to just list previous state placement. Make it interesting. Just because Wrestler A took 3rd doesn't make him better than Wrestler B who took 8th at a different weight class. Some kids overachieved and won't match that next year while others underachieved and are working extra hard because they have something to prove. To answer both of your questions: 1. I thought about this, but was just keeping to specific Louisville schools. If you're going to include Oldham county schools then you may as well include Hardin county schools as well. And the Trinity kids living in Oldham Co. is something that I thought about also lol. But AJ Bindner also wrestled for NO. Alot of them did. 2. Again, I've also said that. Respect to all wrestlers but you cant honestly tell me that Brandon Reed is a better wrestler than Hudson Heidorf. But the rankings did themselves at state. Go ahead and make your own rankings lol I'd like to see them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonomowrestling11 3 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonomowrestling11 3 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 You do have to give credit to reed though,he is only a second year wrestler unlike many others on the list. He's earned his spot in the rankings, no doubt. But honestly yes heidorf is a better P4P wrestler. It just shows you what kind of sport this is though. He probably worked his butt of this off season and earned his spot in the finals this year. I cant wait to see reed as a senior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nkawtg 137 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 I don't know enough about everyone to make a list. I do know that Zane Brown has made more progress in the last 2-3 years than anyone at any level has. Most kids plateau, at least for a while in high school. It will be fun to see if he can keep improving. I think many of the Oldham County kids are poised to take the next step. It seems they tend to underperform a bit. (No insult intended, just stating the obvious.). Had they had Shirkey this past year they may have pushed for the title. The Trinity junior class is so tough. They obviously push each other. I'd say KD, HH, BB, and TF could all be top 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nkawtg 137 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 And it's nice to see the state title stay in Louisville. It wasn't long ago when many of our northern Ky friends were thinking they had a huge advantage. I think the ETC club could put Louisville wrestling on par with Cincy very quickly. I consider Oldham part of Louisville simply because most of us in OC do everything there anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
depperschmidt 140 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 louisville is closing the gap. however, state results show .... region 6 with most team points, most state champs, and most placers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8798 45 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 Off topic but a question about a Louisville kid is it a sure thing Zane goes to Male for High School ? Yes. Are you sure Trinity won't have something to say about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 111 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 Oh of course Reed is awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites