Wrestling Dad 99 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I noticed they show Saul Ervin with a loss. Was this at the Super 32? I was not aware of any in-season losses by Saul. At 113 or 106. ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tja 150 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 A DQ at state duals for an illegal slam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acewing 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Is there a lot of sandbagging going on in high school wrestling? Kids taking losses just to get a worse seeding in regional so prognosticators can beat their chests? Doesn't seem logical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tja 150 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Is there a lot of sandbagging going on in high school wrestling? Kids taking losses just to get a worse seeding in regional so prognosticators can beat their chests? Doesn't seem logical. I don't really follow what your getting at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FalconWrestling 147 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I don't really follow what your getting at? acewing interpreted IN_Grappler to be suggesting that some kids may have taken losses during the season to get a lower seeding, that is how I interpreted his statement as well. IN_Grappler can correct this if he wants to though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctown714 3 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Sand bagging in cards or billards might make sense, call me crazy but that makes no sense when talking about wrestling. And yes upsets happen all the time but saying a #1 or #2 on this list will not qualify is a pretty bold prediction, would like to know more for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tja 150 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I don't see any kid listed at a 1 or 2 not making it to state Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IN_grappler 9 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Finally there is some chatter on region 1. You are correct who in the h*%$ sandbags in wrestling. It was just so quiet on here something had to be said to get the kettle hot. Of course no one is ever going to agree with rankings but I know I have always been perfect in my predictions but in order to remain that way I never tell them, lol! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tja 150 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 This, for the win. I'm intrigued to know your predictions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bsheffer160 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2015 I believe Buckman will beat Williams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pushthepace 3 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 You're crazy Regaldo is going to get smoked by Micah! Micah is a better wrestler. Regaldo won't be top 8 probably this yeat Wow, it looks like this prediction was no where in the ball park! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FalconWrestling 147 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Falcon's critique on Falcon's predictions106 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 3/4 The Good- Top 3 The Bad- Dickerson over Hammons This weight was pretty easy to predict, all tough kids who have been secure in their rankings for awhile, even with Knight dropping down. I am sure Hammons felt rightfully shorted by my prediction and he proved his ranking to be no fluke as he once again beat Dickerson in his route to punching his ticket to state. 113 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 2/4 The Good- Regaldo over Ervin The Bad- Everything else I was really off with this weight, just not in the way people expected me to be. Regaldo proved me right with a solid win over Ervin but I think everyone knows Micah is en route to a very good wrestling career like his brothers and cousins. Himes couldn't get it done which is a disappointing end to his senior year but we have to keep in mind 113 was a very tough weight from top to bottom. Agulto wrestled great out there by the way.120 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 4/4 The Good- Agulto over Turner The Bad- Curl's finish While I predicted the four finishers correctly I got the order all wrong, I consider this a testament to how tightly contested the weight was. Agulto did pull off the upset over Turner which helped Christian County secure second place over Calloway. Curl didn't do as well as I had hoped but he is still very young and has impressed me a lot in his short career. 126 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 3/4 The Good- Dyess over Ruttman The Bad- Mathis over Ervin I let the fact I secretly cheer for McCracken get the best of me and that prevented a clean sweep at 126 for me. Dyess wrestled a fantastic tournament and I really hope he places at state. I can't wait to see this batch of kids next year with only Dyess graduating.132 Champ predicted- no Qualifiers predicted- 4/4 The Good- Ellison making top 6 The Bad- Shorting Collins My hat goes off to Chance Collins and a congratulations on your region title. This is a case where I have to eat my words in saying Oxford would "cruise" to a region title, Collins showed me the error of my syntax with a fantastic tournament that I hope carries over to the state tournament. Interesting note, while I predicted the 1st, 3rd, and 5th place wrestlers correctly I got the result wrong at each weight.138 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 3/4 The Good- Saying Miller would win The Bad- Not trusting first instincts I always tell my students to trust your first answer, once you start overthinking something that's when you make mistakes. In that regard I should've kept Putty at third like I did in my first draft, and Putty did his best to rub that mistake in my face. I am also glad that the Miller final was just as close as I believed it would be and in a perfect world we would see a rematch in the state finals, but Derek is stuck with one of the toughest draws I have seen in awhile. Best of luck to the Millers of Region 1, I am cheering for both of you.145 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 3/4 The Good- Gray over Walls The Bad- doubting Union I will not give myself credit for predicting Ryder's upset wins because I was happily surprised. It's really tough taking your first loss, especially this late into the season but hopefully Walls uses that fire to fuel him at state, I already got to see Frank place at state (a highlight of my trip last year) and I would love to see Walls do it too. That aside great job Gray and I can't wait to follow the rest of your career. With my gushing on those two done I have to say great job to Avery for proving once again to never doubt the Union kid. 152 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 4/4 The Good- got all 4 The Bad- Lawson over Perry Perry stepped up big for Christian here. His great tournament is the reason I didn't get a clean sweep at this weight haha.160 Champ predicted- no Qualifiers predicted- 4/4 The Good- got all 4 The Bad- Williams over Buckman I doubted Union again at this weight and paid for it. This is a weight, like a few others, I could see Region 1 coming out with four placers.170 Champ predicted- no Qualifiers predicted- 4/4 The Good- got all four again The Bad- doubting Lawson I guess Lawson wasn't happy with me predicting him third and decided to show it by beating Haywood for the first time this year en route to a region title. Not quite as dramatic as Thacker, it's still another case of I should just never predict anything with Hoptown kids.182 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 3/4 The Good- not entirely messing up The Bad- You know the story of the guy who kept doubting Union? The top three at this weight should all place, and my hat goes off to Kane Morris who turned in a great performance at this tournament. 195 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 3/4 The Good- Phil Bradley The Bad- four and down The top three at this weight should all win at least two matches at state. Bradley wrestled a good tournament. But man I messed up with my predictions from fourth down, that is probably on par with 113 as one of my worst performances this year in crystal ball gazing.220 Champ predicted- yes Qualifiers predicted- 4/4 The Good- Zach Farris The Bad- Orr and Culver My last shot at a clean sweep was at 220 where Orr decided I did not deserve it and beat Culver. I stand by my prediction that Farris will be in the finals against the infamous ATM, maybe he can even pull off a Hunter French.285 Champ predicted- no Qualifiers predicted- 3/4 The Good- I didn't totally screw up The Bad- Heavy is Heavy Another weight I messed up on hence I end up 10/14 correctly predicted region champions which gives me a C- for the year. Maybe I'll do better next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pushthepace 3 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 I went out to Calloway on the second day of the tournament to watch the match ups I had been hearing about all year. The sad part is the refereeing was so horrible that one ref was deciding matches himself instead. I am not sure who the bald headed ref was but he is one of the worst refs I have witness seeing in many years. I know it is not an easy job but damn at least know the rules some what before you put the whistle to your lips. You know it is bad when the other refs have to stand mat side just to make sure he does not mess up to bad. I heard the first night he called a locking hands and then let the match go on and then give the kid that locked hands a five point move. WOW, Great job!! I know many coaches had some issues not only with his poor performance but also safety concerns for the kids due to him allowing some joint locks as well. NOT GOOD!! Did not hear any real issues with the other refs there but that guy was spoke of frequently and often. By the way, got to see some tough matches but the ones I was most impressed with was Buckman and Williams and Brown and Shaffer. I believe those were the best matches of the day. Grey and Walls was alright but I expected that outcome anyway. The first match up between them was won by Grey but the refs helped decide the outcome with Walls walking away the victor on the first meeting. Well everyone enjoy the snow and best of luck to all the guys who qualified for state!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites