Comparing Ranger versus the Committee Rankings

[FalconWrestling 147]

Since it was a fairly hot topic right before the state tournament I figured I might as well compare the two rankings and see which mind(s) reigned supreme. I didn't use the Ranger report since those were predictions based on the brackets, I instead used the rankings he made right before state since it was made in the same manner as the Committee. I listed the placers at each weight followed by their ranking by the Committee then their ranking by Ranger.

 

106

1. Jorge Vega (5th, 5th)

2. Trevor Lawson (6th, 3rd)

3. A.J. Bindner (7th, 7th)

4. Joey Scaggs (4th, 6th)

5. David Hernandez (10th, 10th)

6. Jake Burroughs (2nd, 4th)

7. Bryce Sheffer (11th, 11th)

8. Travon Thacker (3rd, 2nd)

Advantage: Ranger

 

113

1. Nathan Boston (1st, 1st)

2. John Hernandez (6th, 6th)

3. Chris Beeler (8th, 7th)

4. Brady Emerson (3rd, 3rd)

5. Robbie Dezember (5th, 5th)

6. Stephen Maggard (9th, 9th)

7. Jerimiah Kline (7th, 8th)

8. Lucas McCain (10th, 10th)

Advantage: Draw

 

120

1. Trae Blackwell (1st, 1st)

2. Caleb Austin (5th, 5th)

3. Michael Whalen (2nd, 2nd)

4. Gus Adams (4th, 4th)

5. Bobby Poynter (10th, 10th)

6. Eli Owens (8th, 9th)

7. Keegan Duncan (6th, 6th)

8. Max Korfhage (9th, 8th)

Advantage: Draw

 

126

1. Brock Ervin (1st, 1st)

2. Joey Parrott (2nd, 2nd)

3. John Shirkey (3rd, 3rd)

4. Hudson Heirdorf (9th, 5th)

5. Trae Willis (5th, 8th)

6. Angel Vasquez (6th, 7th)

7. Brian Crawley (4th, 4th)

8. Nathan Haddad (10th, 11th)

Advantage: Committee

 

132

1. Sean Fausz (1st, 1st)

2. Kyle Lawson (2nd, 2nd)

3. Connor Wilkerson (4th, 4th)

4. Roderick Agyeman (5th, 6th)

5. Wyatt Overman (11th, 11th)

6. Chris Gilkey (6th, 7th)

7. Gabe Ervin (7th, 9th)

8. Dylan West (10th, 10th)

Advantage: Committee

 

138

1. Paul Hamilton (2nd, 2nd)

2. Jayce Carr (1st, 1st)

3. Raymundo Perez (5th, 6th)

4. David Sahms (8th, 10th)

5. Ian Kahl (3rd, 4th)

6. Jake Sander (UR, 9th)

7. Max Andreoni (UR, 17th)

8. Pedro Ruiz (7th, 7th)

Advantage: Ranger

 

145

1. Justin Lampe (1st, 2nd)

2. Tevon Clay (3rd, 3rd)

3. Kory Polley (2nd, 1st)

4. Austin Jackson (7th, 7th)

5. Alvaro Aguilar (12th, 9h)

6. Corbin Woods (6th, 5th)

7. Jon Belk (9th, 10th)

8. Andrew Lee (11th, 8th)

Advantage: Ranger

 

152

1. Kevin Cooper (1st, 1st)

2. Dominic Lampe (2nd, 2nd)

3. Logan Jones (3rd, 4th)

4. Jordan Doyle (5th, 6th)

5. Nick McIntosh (4th, 3rd)

6. Clayton Smith (UR, 7th)

7. Chad Gahafer (9th, 8th)

8. Kenny Sells (UR, UR)

Advantage: Ranger

 

160

1. Gabriel French (2nd, 2nd)

2. Stephen Myers (1st, 1st)

3. Gabe Mcillrath (6th, 4th)

4. Wyatt Courtney (4th, 3rd)

5. Cameron Montgomery (3rd, 5th)

6. Jimmy Preston (5th, 6th)

7. Mikey Smith (7th, 7th)

8. Jared Whitlock (8th, 11th)

Advantage: Draw

 

170

1. Lane Jones (4th, 2nd)

2. Noah Bauer (5th, 3rd)

3. Caleb Canter (1st, 1st)

4. Johnny Meiman (2nd, 4th)

5. Dustin Turner (9th, 14th)

6. Sam Willbanks (12th, 5th)

7. Dj Parriman (3rd, 9th)

8. Sean Barrett (6th, 6th)

Advantage: Ranger

 

182

1. Hiero Chamblee (2nd, 2nd)

2. Brandon Pledger (5th, 3rd)

3. Bj Carmen (1st, 1st)

4. Eli Matthews (3rd, 4th)

5. Devin Morrow (4th, 5th)

6. Sam Steele (6th, 8th)

7. Michael Saunders (UR, UR)

8. Evan Kenealy (7th, 7th)

Advantage: Ranger

 

195

1. Thomas Noe (4th, 3rd)

2. Konner Thompson (7th, 13th)

3. Wade Holtsclaw (1st, 5th)

4. Eli Miller (12th, 8th)

5. Trevor Thompson (5th, 4th)

6. Sam Preston (2nd, 1st)

7. Justin Mcdaniel (3rd, 2nd)

8. Jordan Willenborg (11th, 6th)

Advantage: Committee

 

220

1. Austin Myers (1st, 1st)

2. Cameron Mattingly (7th, 6th)

3. Anthony Jennings (4th, 11th)

4. Tucker Fair (3rd, 2nd)

5. Tanner Adams (8th, 4th)

6. Jason Maine (9th, 8th)

7. Tucker Mueller (11th, 3rd)

8. Zack Cooper (6th, 10th)

Advantage: Committee

 

285

1. Bobby Bryant (1st, 1st)

2. Landon Young (9th, 8th)

3. Paul Couch (13th, 9th)

4. Cody Miskell (7th, 7th)

5. Zack Troxell (3rd, 3rd)

6. Alec Mielke (12th, 14th)

7. Kris Humphrey (11th, 12th)

8. Brad Weber (UR, 17th)

Advantage: Ranger

 

Ranger wins, being more accurate then the Committee Rankings 7 times while being more innaccurate only 4 times. 3 times both sets of rankings were virtually the same in regards to accuracy. The Committee didn't rank a placer 6 times while Ranger only did it twice (but he did have two placers ranked outside of the Top 15 which the Committee didn't extend to). However, the Committee correctly ranked 8 champs versus just 7 for Ranger.

[trithis 34]

So, the way I see it....there's no need for a committee and just give ranger his due bcs he's better than all of your minds combined. Pretty clear to me. Statistics over logic.

[FalconWrestling 147]

I am in no mood for ignorance today so I will just put this simply. The committee was formed to take some of the pressure off Ranger since the poor man is overworked in everything not just wrestling. He does more for Kentucky Wrestling then most people on this site combined outside of the like of Coach Smith and Coach McCoy. From the get go our purpose was to take a task that was crushing Ranger under its weight and spread out it over a group of people. Now if you want to get into the rankings themselves we had TWO days to create not only rankings from scratch but a whole entire system in which to make them. I was personally up until 1 in the morning looking up results for the weights I was assigned. You can not complain over lack of rankings then turn around and insult the people who gave up their time in order to give you rankings.

[Rumbler 62 1]

It appears that both did a great job. There is a need for the committee because Ranger wasn't updating the Rankings. It shouldn't be his responsibility to do it either. I'm sure its a big hassle. I think going forward with a committee is the way to go. The rankings should be updated atleast once every 3-4 weeks during wrestling season.

[FalconWrestling 147]

It appears that both did a great job. There is a need for the committee because Ranger wasn't updating the Rankings. It shouldn't be his responsibility to do it either. I'm sure its a big hassle. I think going forward with a committee is the way to go. The rankings should be updated atleast once every 3-4 weeks during wrestling season.

That is about our goal right now, we are also looking into doing a couple preseason rankings as well over the summer

[wildcat2002 190]

Congrats to Ranger.. He knows his stuff!

[trithis 34]

Don't get all bent out of shape. I think you all do a great job. Keep up everyone's ranking efforts...it's great for the sport. I merely just pointed out some that were bashing Rangers efforts. He does a great job and he came out on top.

[coffeesgood 19]

So...logically speaking...how about Ranger be on the committee? That way it won't be ALL up to him, but everyone will benefit from his experience and expertise.

[FalconWrestling 147]

Ranger provided his commentary, personally I kind of like having multiple sets of rankings, but that's just me.

[Josh_Claywell 52]

Don't get all bent out of shape. I think you all do a great job. Keep up everyone's ranking efforts...it's great for the sport. I merely just pointed out some that were bashing Rangers efforts. He does a great job and he came out on top.

 

Who the crap was bashing Ranger? Good grief.

 

The committee was formed to take some pressure off Ranger, who had been doing these rankings alone -- while coaching on top of everything else he has/had going on -- for the last several years.

 

People had been clamoring for new rankings for weeks, even months, and this was a way to get new rankings out and help Ranger as well.

[bocowrestling 14]

It was funny that throughout the tournament it was announced the Kentucky does not rank wrestlers, yet rankings were referred to throughout the medal finals.  

[coachteater 70]

It was funny that throughout the tournament it was announced the Kentucky does not rank wrestlers, yet rankings were referred to throughout the medal finals.

No, the khsaa does not rank wrestlers.

[Josh_Claywell 52]

No, the khsaa does not rank wrestlers.

 

This. David Dawson, the man who does the announcing during finals and for most of the tourney, has used the rankings from this site for the last several years. Before that, they used the KWCA rankings.

[JCB0577 17]

In other words Ranger is the AP poll and the Commitee is the coaches poll like in College football/basketball.  I like it.