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Does anyone know why they didn’t wrestle in the consi’s today?

I'm curious if there's another way that KY USA could be handling insurance other than forcing all athletes to upgrade to a whole membership? Is there a one time fee, for example? Requiring the whole membership basically triples the cost of this event for most kids, since most will not have the whole membership and likely won't have a need it in the future. If there's no better way, then I understand. I'm just looking to knock down every barrier we can, and I know for many of the kids that I coach that cost is a major deal breaker for them. We train all off season for close to no cost, and I'd like to continue to make it accessible to everyone.

They said on the coaches call today that they probably won't be able to live broadcast during school hours because of rules using the schools wifi. They are trying to find a workaround, but it's just more bad news with using an in-session high school for states.

$80 for a 2-day pass is a lot cheaper than travel, hotels, gate, and concession eating for 2 weekends in a row with semi-state.

Settle down. I asked who decided it and when, and now you've given me a few names. Thanks for that. But I still wonder about the system of decision making. For example, middle school isn't sanctioned, but we have a process in place for these types of decisions to be made, with a board of officers, official votes, etc. Is there something like that for girls wrestling that I just wasn't aware of? OK... In a 32 man bracket, IF you lost in the first or second round without a bye (worst case scenario) and then won 4 in a row, you'd have locked in top-8 in this situation, even if you have to forfeit out due to the 5-match rule. But in the system we're planning to use, you are already locked out of the top-8 as soon as you lost that first match. Even if it was against the #1 seed. So I would prefer we just let wrestle backs happen until they can't. If it were your athlete, would you rather be forced to forfeit out and take 8th place, or would you rather have no chance to wrestle back to the top 8 after losing in the first round? This just reminds me of boys semi-states during COVID, when only top-2 go to states and wrestle-backs were meaningless.

It looks like we limited the field to get to a one day tournament, but then we screwed ourselves by eliminating true wrestle backs. It’s crazy to me that all quarterfinalists get to medal, and anyone that loses early can’t wrestle back. When was this decided, and by who? It puts way too much value in our seeding process, and protecting records. I understand the 5 match rule. But we would never do this to the boys.

Do we know what time Region 2 weigh ins will start? I couldn't find a flyer and I need to get a bus request filed.

Anybody know what Regionals and States will cost this year?

Are we back to $16 for Regionals and states, or are we sticking to $30 per entry? I'm trying to reserve money from the school early this year, so I need to figure out how much to request.

Also: 12U Uriah Rainey/72 - 2nd Kaygen Roberts/117 - Champ 13U Andrew Clayton/115 - 2nd Ethan Masters/125 - 2nd Judah Carey/135 - 2nd 15U Mason Damis/110 - Champ Micah Thompson/120 - Champ Alex Whitt/130 - 3rd Luke Knight/140 - 3rd HS Cruz Reynolds/130 - 4th Abbigayle Oliver/130(f) - 3rd

For the record, I was there the first session with my son and it was a great experience. I'll be encouraging all our off-season wrestlers to attend in June. I hope other coaches will as well.

I grew up wrestling in PA and the biggest difference I see between KY and PA is numbers. More youth, more middle school, more high school. JV squads with real wrestle offs that pushed the starters to work harder. Individual tournaments that you could be proud of to come in 3rd place, and you definitely wouldn't place if you didn't put in the work. Also way less travel and more competitions because every school had a team. I believe if you increase the numbers, the competitive spirit will take care of the rest. Idk, I could be totally wrong. But that's my theory.

The population center of KY is Willisburg, KY in Washington County, which is 47 minutes north of Campbellsville. It's 71 minutes from Louisville. Louisville is the most populated city, it's not the population center. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Kentucky#:~:text=The center of population of,in the city of Willisburg. For reference, it is 371 miles to drive from Paducah Tilghman HS to Johnson Central HS. That's two big wrestling schools, and if you placed the tournament directly in the center they would each have to travel 185 miles. Campbellsville isn't perfect, but it is pretty close to that center.

Good catch. That takes us to 16.1% and I could have missed others too.

This is an interesting question, so I checked... It's 14.3% 106 - Micah Thompson (8th -> 6th) 120 - Hunter Luttrell (7th -> 7th) 138 - Nicholas Armentano (7th -> 7th) 150 - Aiden Zinser (8th -> 8th) 150 - Mason Kellett (7th -> 7th) 157 - Brandon Burchett (7th -> 6th) 165 - Jack James (7th -> 8th) 285 - Kaleb Kiely (8th -> 3rd) That's 8 out of 56 kids that finished 7th or 8th at semi states, who then went on to place in the final round. That's actually a fairly high percentage when you consider that these guys all started with terrible draws against the top 2 guys from the other semi-state.