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    What is up with all the spammers?

    It looks like this forum is run on Invision Community software. They have spam filtering, I wonder if it's all been applied here...
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    State brackets release?

    The 17th is after the tournament…
  4. We already have all 3 of these requirements met for regional seeding the week before states. This isn't anything new. As for ducking, this is a poor reason to avoid seeding. It's an unfortunate byproduct but will only work to the detriment of the teams that duck in the longterm.
  5. So how can we get this changed? It's not too late, and these kids deserved an opportunity for the fairest and most accurate outcome, even if it's a little more work for coaches. I'd also like to see the best state finals possible, not a bunch of lopsided wins. This is just silly. Every sport at every level is looking for a champ in the playoffs, you still seed.
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    2A state duals

    What you see as common sense, I see as ignoring criteria. Meanwhile PT gets rewarded with the easier path to the finals while JC and BC battle it out.
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    Most improved/ best newcomer?

    He disappeared for a few years. Good to see him back.
  8. Does anyone know why they didn’t wrestle in the consi’s today?
  9. I'm curious if there's another way that KY USA could be handling insurance other than forcing all athletes to upgrade to a whole membership? Is there a one time fee, for example? Requiring the whole membership basically triples the cost of this event for most kids, since most will not have the whole membership and likely won't have a need it in the future. If there's no better way, then I understand. I'm just looking to knock down every barrier we can, and I know for many of the kids that I coach that cost is a major deal breaker for them. We train all off season for close to no cost, and I'd like to continue to make it accessible to everyone.
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    Live Feed For Sate?

    They said on the coaches call today that they probably won't be able to live broadcast during school hours because of rules using the schools wifi. They are trying to find a workaround, but it's just more bad news with using an in-session high school for states.
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    Not looking forward to state.

    $80 for a 2-day pass is a lot cheaper than travel, hotels, gate, and concession eating for 2 weekends in a row with semi-state.
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    Girls Rankings 1/27/23

    Settle down. I asked who decided it and when, and now you've given me a few names. Thanks for that. But I still wonder about the system of decision making. For example, middle school isn't sanctioned, but we have a process in place for these types of decisions to be made, with a board of officers, official votes, etc. Is there something like that for girls wrestling that I just wasn't aware of? OK... In a 32 man bracket, IF you lost in the first or second round without a bye (worst case scenario) and then won 4 in a row, you'd have locked in top-8 in this situation, even if you have to forfeit out due to the 5-match rule. But in the system we're planning to use, you are already locked out of the top-8 as soon as you lost that first match. Even if it was against the #1 seed. So I would prefer we just let wrestle backs happen until they can't. If it were your athlete, would you rather be forced to forfeit out and take 8th place, or would you rather have no chance to wrestle back to the top 8 after losing in the first round? This just reminds me of boys semi-states during COVID, when only top-2 go to states and wrestle-backs were meaningless.
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    Girls Rankings 1/27/23

    It looks like we limited the field to get to a one day tournament, but then we screwed ourselves by eliminating true wrestle backs. It’s crazy to me that all quarterfinalists get to medal, and anyone that loses early can’t wrestle back. When was this decided, and by who? It puts way too much value in our seeding process, and protecting records. I understand the 5 match rule. But we would never do this to the boys.
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    What Region is Somerset in for Middle school region.

    Do we know what time Region 2 weigh ins will start? I couldn't find a flyer and I need to get a bus request filed.
  15. Are we back to $16 for Regionals and states, or are we sticking to $30 per entry? I'm trying to reserve money from the school early this year, so I need to figure out how much to request.
  16. Anybody know what Regionals and States will cost this year?
  17. Also: 12U Uriah Rainey/72 - 2nd Kaygen Roberts/117 - Champ 13U Andrew Clayton/115 - 2nd Ethan Masters/125 - 2nd Judah Carey/135 - 2nd 15U Mason Damis/110 - Champ Micah Thompson/120 - Champ Alex Whitt/130 - 3rd Luke Knight/140 - 3rd HS Cruz Reynolds/130 - 4th Abbigayle Oliver/130(f) - 3rd
  18. Anyone know if this is still happening? I was going to register my son, but it looks like only a handful of kids are registered right now. Maybe more kids are registered and it's just not showing up on the entry list?
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    KY/USA Freestyle and Greco States

    For the record, I was there the first session with my son and it was a great experience. I'll be encouraging all our off-season wrestlers to attend in June. I hope other coaches will as well.
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    2022 State recap

    I grew up wrestling in PA and the biggest difference I see between KY and PA is numbers. More youth, more middle school, more high school. JV squads with real wrestle offs that pushed the starters to work harder. Individual tournaments that you could be proud of to come in 3rd place, and you definitely wouldn't place if you didn't put in the work. Also way less travel and more competitions because every school had a team. I believe if you increase the numbers, the competitive spirit will take care of the rest. Idk, I could be totally wrong. But that's my theory.
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    KY/USA Freestyle and Greco States

    The population center of KY is Willisburg, KY in Washington County, which is 47 minutes north of Campbellsville. It's 71 minutes from Louisville. Louisville is the most populated city, it's not the population center. center of population of,in the city of Willisburg. For reference, it is 371 miles to drive from Paducah Tilghman HS to Johnson Central HS. That's two big wrestling schools, and if you placed the tournament directly in the center they would each have to travel 185 miles. Campbellsville isn't perfect, but it is pretty close to that center.
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    2022 State recap

    Good catch. That takes us to 16.1% and I could have missed others too.
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    2022 State recap

    This is an interesting question, so I checked... It's 14.3% 106 - Micah Thompson (8th -> 6th) 120 - Hunter Luttrell (7th -> 7th) 138 - Nicholas Armentano (7th -> 7th) 150 - Aiden Zinser (8th -> 8th) 150 - Mason Kellett (7th -> 7th) 157 - Brandon Burchett (7th -> 6th) 165 - Jack James (7th -> 8th) 285 - Kaleb Kiely (8th -> 3rd) That's 8 out of 56 kids that finished 7th or 8th at semi states, who then went on to place in the final round. That's actually a fairly high percentage when you consider that these guys all started with terrible draws against the top 2 guys from the other semi-state.
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    KY/USA Freestyle and Greco States

    It's a big state, where would you like to have it? The geographical center of KY is Marion County, which is immediately adjacent to Taylor County, where it was hosted. The population center of KY is a bit further North, closer to where it was to be originally held. Unfortunately that fell through. Union Co and Paducah showed up with pretty big squads and they travelled as far as anyone in NKY I think.
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    2022 State recap

    I like that this post stayed positive, and I don't want to take away from that. But at the same time I just want to reiterate your 1st item - which is that no one wants the semi-state format. I want, and I think the kids deserve, a real state tournament with 32 man brackets, and it should be in an arena. Yes, two semi-states was far better than 4. Yes, GRC did a good job and it's a fine venue as far as high schools go. But let's be real, Union County literally took up half the seats all by themselves. If another school showed up like Union (I wish!) then our venue couldn't handle it. I know my family was squeezed in like sardines in our little section. Many people were in seats that couldn't even see the mats because of the standing area in front of the bleachers. That's obviously not ideal for casual spectating. I just feel that if we don't fight for getting the old format back, then we can kiss it good bye forever. Other than that, I agree with everything you said!