DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 When will the pools be released? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pin4thewin 33 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 Top 16 teams at state duals 1a- Union, Walton Verona, Larue, Caldwell 2a- Paducah Tilghman, Johnson Central, Boyle, Taylor, Fairdale 3a- Great Crossings, Oldham, Trinity, St. X, Ryle, Madison Central Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CUTiger184 59 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 1A seed meeting was last night. 2A is tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 1a is up. Guess there’s a new favorite- Walton Verona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, pin4thewin said: Top 16 teams at state duals 1a- Union, Walton Verona, Larue, Caldwell 2a- Paducah Tilghman, Johnson Central, Boyle, Taylor, Fairdale 3a- Great Crossings, Oldham, Trinity, St. X, Ryle, Madison Central Paducah just lost a few duals. Jc has only lost 1. Jc will probably be the top seed, but who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pin4thewin 33 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 7 hours ago, DrBaker said: Paducah just lost a few duals. Jc has only lost 1. Jc will probably be the top seed, but who knows. 1. Johnson 2. Paducah 3. Harrison 4. Taylor 5. Boyle 6. Moore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, pin4thewin said: 1. Johnson 2. Paducah 3. Harrison 4. Taylor 5. Boyle 6. Moore Is that what was decided tonight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 7 hours ago, DrBaker said: 1a is up. Guess there’s a new favorite- Walton Verona. Clear 1 seed. Not sure that I would equate that to favorite, but why not have a little fun with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Ranger123 said: Clear 1 seed. Not sure that I would equate that to favorite, but why not have a little fun with it. Clear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, DrBaker said: Clear? The criteria as voted on by the coaches association is very clear and simple. Now I will admit a few coaches and I have been outspoken about this criteria for a few years now, but ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 Isn’t the first one the win/loss record? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CUTiger184 59 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 Criteria is: Head to Head Common Opponent Win %, must have at least 7 dual wins to use this criteria. If win % is the same strength of schedule will determine the "winner" of the seed Lottery Draw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pin4thewin 33 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 8 hours ago, DrBaker said: Isn’t the first one the win/loss record? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pin4thewin 33 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, CUTiger184 said: Criteria is: Head to Head Common Opponent Win %, must have at least 7 dual wins to use this criteria Lottery Draw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pin4thewin 33 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 Oops, didn't mean to post that first one but dont know how to delete, but CUTiger184 is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 It’s just hilarious that a jv loss is being counted as a varsity loss. It’s Larue, Caldwell, Ft Campbell, and Nelson that get screwed in the deal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, DrBaker said: It’s just hilarious that a jv loss is being counted as a varsity loss. It’s Larue, Caldwell, Ft Campbell, and Nelson that get screwed in the deal. Now that does not sound right. Surely they did not take a JV tournament loss and count it against them on the varsity level. I know don't call you Shirley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said: Now that does not sound right. Surely they did not take a JV tournament loss and count it against them on the varsity level. I know don't call you Shirley. Nope. Varsity event loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, DrBaker said: It’s just hilarious that a jv loss is being counted as a varsity loss. It’s Larue, Caldwell, Ft Campbell, and Nelson that get screwed in the deal. Go look at last year's state duals setup and then tell me who got screwed. The 2's get drawn in. Hard to see how Caldwell, FT Camp, and Nelson are affected by that seeding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coachteater 70 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 Unfortunately during both seed meetings a mistake was made in placement of 2nd place finishers. The pools have been redrawn and are accurate now. I apologize and take responsibility for this mistake. We will be taking steps to update bylaws and have all procedures in writing so this doesnt happen in the future. Again, I apologize. Scotty Teater Kywca President Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, coachteater said: Unfortunately during both seed meetings a mistake was made in placement of 2nd place finishers. The pools have been redrawn and are accurate now. I apologize and take responsibility for this mistake. We will be taking steps to update bylaws and have all procedures in writing so this doesnt happen in the future. Again, I apologize. Scotty Teater Kywca President No big deal. All fixed. Hopefully, everyone now realizes you can't just let the computer randomly draw the teams in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ranger123 said: Nope. Varsity event loss. The jv team takes a loss while the varsity was beating Father Ryan (#1 AA team in Tenn). I just think it should be as fair as possible. We can’t go change the past, but we can fix it this year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, DrBaker said: The jv team takes a loss while the varsity was beating Father Ryan (#1 AA team in Tenn). I just think it should be as fair as possible. We can’t go change the past, but we can fix it this year. So we get to pick and choose which varsity matches count and which don't? Yes, Union County is by far the best team on paper in the state and likely most of the midwest. I think they should be nationally ranked. But for this event this weekend we have an established criteria and it was used to seed the event. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites