I-pinned-em-all 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 BTW, Was Supe returning champ at 125. I thought it was 119. Palmer, Osborne and Supe if he was champ are all returning champs. Just out of curiosity does placing in state the prior year hold any weight in seeding? You better be wearing a mouthpiece if your going to wrestle. Tooth replacement after the tournament could be costly depending on the outcome. :-DWith Palmer being undefeated in Ky he will likely get the number one seed. Being a state runner-up certainly has some impact, but, I'm not sure how much. If he was runner-up at 119, then yes, with it being so much lower, probably less of an impact. I guess coaches will decide. The overall record this year will be important as well. Schneider won 4 big Ohio tournaments and has a very good record. If Supe is at 119, I doubt there will be a big challenge either way. If Supe remains 125, I think there will be a heavy debate and will come down to all the coaches voting on it. Criteria will probably be equal. I agree this could and should be a great region 6 tournament. There are 4 maybe 5 head to head matches between Ryle and CC, 103, 125, 152, 160, and possibly the big boys. Not sure about 112, will depend on seeding, but no doubt, 112 is a huge weight group for both teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matrat 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 then that means supe and scinder will face each other in the semies am i not correct :? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryledad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I am assuming that Caleb Schneider beat Supe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mortal 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 When did they wrestle? I thought Lonkard wrestled Jones at NKAC.He did, im pretty sure lonkard-bates wrestled at ryle rumble. lonkard-Hale wrestled at NKAC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplearms 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 He did, im pretty sure lonkard-bates wrestled at ryle rumble. lonkard-Hale wrestled at NKAC. You are correct-they did wrestle at the Rumble and your earlier post of Bates over Lonkard 3-0 was correct. Gold star for you-good memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwrestler81 6 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Once again, importance in seeding1. head to head2. victories against common opponants3. overall record4. last years accomplishments (less important)5. "He's a good kid" or something like that which is said at every seed meeting and means almost nothingnot important1. beating someyone else from the same team2. winning a tournament that the other seed candidate was not at example: Black wno the NKAC Mace won the DragonMace vrs. Black for #1 seed at regional will be based on common opponants and overall record because they have not wrestled head to head. If Black wrestles the Trinity kid this weekend or some other common opponant that will determine the seed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tc125 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I am assuming that Caleb Schneider beat Supe?ill add more to this debate. i have beaten caleb, and i have lost to supe. so if supe stays 125 then i give the one seed to palmer hands down, for beating supe. the the 2 and 3 seeds dont matter, but get handed out to supe and caleb, with supe most likely getting the 2 seed because he beat me, and i beat caleb. record plays no role, or shouldnt, because of common opponents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryledad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 thanks for the clarification. Where does my dad can beat your dad fall in the criteria? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bs285 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 thanks for the clarification. Where does my dad can beat your dad fall in the criteria?hahahaha that should be the 1st criteria lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplearms 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 thanks for the clarification. Where does my dad can beat your dad fall in the criteria?That comes right after my mom beat your mom. Singlets anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryledad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 This year's rematch of ryle and cc matriarchs should be on pay per view. Profits will fund both teams for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplefeet 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 That comes right after my mom beat your mom. Singlets anyone?little bro what you talken about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplearms 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Mace vrs. Black for #1 seed at regional will be based on common opponants and overall record because they have not wrestled head to head. If Black wrestles the Trinity kid this weekend or some other common opponant that will determine the seedThey had a common opponent at the Rumble. Black teched Duyzk from HC..........Duyzk beat Mace at the same tourney. Have Black and Adams from Conner wrestled? This weekend will be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
short-time 2 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Mace did win against Adams at a tri this year. Can't remember the score though. Does Black wrestle an opponent that Mace beat at the Dragon ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryledad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I am getting a little older but I am not absolutely certain that Court wrestled in the Rumble. I thought Josh Parker wrestled at the Rumble but I am sure someone has a better memory than me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
short-time 2 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Baumspage says Mace lost 4-2 to Dusyk from HC at the Rumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlewatcher 3 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I am getting a little older but I am not absolutely certain that Court wrestled in the Rumble. I thought Josh Parker wrestled at the Rumble but I am sure someone has a better memory than me.They both wrestled in the Rumble. (Parker and Mace) And the results listed above vs the common opponent of Mace and Black are correct. This information can be found on baumspage.com. Look under Raider Rumble Results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
short-time 2 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Does anyone know what grade year Mace is from Ryle? The stae rankings has him as a blank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 ill add more to this debate. i have beaten caleb, and i have lost to supe. so if supe stays 125 then i give the one seed to palmer hands down, for beating supe. the the 2 and 3 seeds dont matter, but get handed out to supe and caleb, with supe most likely getting the 2 seed because he beat me, and i beat caleb. record plays no role, or shouldnt, because of common opponents.I'll complicate this one more for your benefit KH. Schneider beat the kid from Sycamore at the Rumble and he beat Palmer. So Schneider has a common opponent advantage over Palmer. This one could get ugly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplearms 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Does anyone know what grade year Mace is from Ryle? The stae rankings has him as a blank.Court Mace is a sophomore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
short-time 2 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamthechamp07 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Who won between Bates and Lonkard? That will decide the number 3 or 4 seed. This will be very important. Hale beat Lonkard therefore he will be seeded higher. No one wants to be number 4 seed as Norbury will be the champ. A head to head of Lonkard vs Hale could be a big deciding factor in team region champ.i can see lonkard beating bates and hale he just needs to keep his confidence up he's really talented i just don't think he realizes it yet maybe he'll click by regionals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestling man 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 if everything goes good john should get 2nd seed at regional Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mortal 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 if everything goes good john should get 2nd seed at regionalIt really does'nt matter if he gets 3 seed or 2nd seed. Either way him and Bates will be in the semi-finals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestling man 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 i look foreward to that match its going to be a good one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites