stand-up 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 Your right. ValleyMoore finished top 5 in the county, has 3 guys ranked top 8. They are not legit. They are pretty terrible like they were a few years ago. Oh, and I cannot remember the last time they beat valley.That conditioning they do, it doesn't work at all, its all for show. Trent,Your an idiot! Moore has continuously improved year after year since Coach Thomas has taken over. "That Conditioning they do" It's a very effective aerobic/anaerobic exercise, I can't ever remember seeing a Moore wrestle gassed at the end of a match. You also have to remember that Moore is one of the smallest public schools in the county I don't think they graduate 100 kids a year. They may not be a state powerhouse but they're without a doubt one of the top teams in Jefferson County. Last Year Dual Result: Moore 57 Valley 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 Sarcasm Stand-upMoore destroys Valley and I know that.Anyways. I guess this Valley152 guy is like the greatest Valley wrestler? 152? Ok so who is this? I think I may know who it is. possibly. Berding? Aren't you the guy that wrestled Mitchell Jones from Moore a few years back. I think I remember you asked for him in an exhibition. Basically called him out. Mitchell wrestled above his weight class and stuck you? Is this you? I hope not. If it is then go ahead and eat crow.Thats the last decent Valley wrestler I can think of besides Raliegh, Rader, and Edwards. I don't believe any of them were 152's.Go Redhawks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 Sarcasm Stand-upMoore destroys Valley and I know that.Anyways. I guess this Valley152 guy is like the greatest Valley wrestler? 152? Ok so who is this? I think I may know who it is. possibly. Berding? Aren't you the guy that wrestled Mitchell Jones from Moore a few years back. I think I remember you asked for him in an exhibition. Basically called him out. Mitchell wrestled above his weight class and stuck you? Is this you? I hope not. If it is then go ahead and eat crow.Thats the last decent Valley wrestler I can think of besides Raliegh, Rader, and Edwards. I don't believe any of them were 152's.Go Redhawks!what about Bebop Smith as one of those decent wrestlers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestler92 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 I've done graduated a couple of years ago....hhhmmm.....Well I am with Trent on this one, I can't think of a Valley wrestler that was really good in the upper middle weights. I hope you stay with Valley and help them get better. They can surely use any help you can give them....but you should still look at the video. I don't remember seeing any Moore wrestlers struggling for air at the end of the 2nd or 3rd periods the last two years. You don't have to be a great athlete to be a great wrestler, some of the best athletes are terrible wrestlers....no knowledge or "wrestling" sense. i've done graduated a couple of years ago, and to tell you i dont need ideas from moore because i would come in and pin or tech. anyone on that team in the first period and thats a promise, but not to talk crap they could watch me wrestle and get some ideas on how to wrestle better and if i wanted to get any ideas from that video i would go to ufc.com and get the my ideas from some real athletes, not moore... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stand-up 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Sarcasm Stand-upSorry Trent,Coach Thomas is friend of mine and I have worked with some of the Moore kids, so I defensive when they're not given credit for the hard work they have put into improving their program. My Bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofthehill 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 I'm not sure who this Vally 152 is but if this was his weight at Vally then I am not impressed.Golsby had wooped all vally kids the last 2-3 years at or near that wt.. And Golsby lost to the 160 from Moore last year in overtime at the oldham Super duals. Don't get me wrong I probably got wooped myself by whomever, but I am not spouting off either, about myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern112 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 o that is chris im sorry about that Pat, guys its just practice maybe some teams work harder in a hour then some teams do in 2 hours who knowsDont sweat it buddy. Its all about maturity level and good sportsmanship. I know you guys bust your balls in practice. We've tied evey year, so our rivalry teams work just as hard as eachother. Moore is a decent team nomatter what anyone says. Good luck to them this year.[glow=purple,2,300]About the practice thing[/glow], southern started out with about 8 of us packed into a classroom my freshmen year. We had nothing but a good coach and a mat from the 80's that was all torn up we rolled into the cafeteria. So yeah we were a small team at first, practiceing with the same people everyday, but we still worked our butts off. Now its my senior year. We have a brand new mat room with brand new mats, our own locker room,showers,bathroom,new headgear and singlets etc., whatever you can think of. Our team grew to fifty or sixty men in our matroom for practice after season kicked off. So we have alot of people to wrestle with, and you get pushed harder. Our team went from a record of like 3-17 to 17-3. We received a team of the week award and we were feartured on the news. It blows my mind how much our program improved. Im not bragging Whatsoever, I just wanted to encourage every team out there with only a few wrestlers, keep your head up, work hard and improve. Your the future of wrestling for your school and kentucky, and there is no limits to what you can make happen. Good facilities will spark intrest within younger kids and the team will grow. Take southern as an example. We are not woodford county or union county, but one things for sure we work just as hard as they do and we will be on their level in the next years to come. Beleive that. Go ahead and put us down, or any other small school, it only makes our teams stronger and our programs grow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Moore beat Southern like 57-22 last year at the HPI. 12 of Southerns points were from forfeits.I think Moore pinned just about everyone of their kids in the first period. It was a mess. As soon as a Southern kid would lose he would go back to the locker room. At the end there was only like the two coaches and a couple wrestlers from southern watching. I'm not sure where the rest were. Pretty humbling though.Yeah but Southern actually beat Moore earlier in the year on tiebreaker points so I heard.Go Redhawks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern112 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Moore beat Southern like 57-22 last year at the HPI. 12 of Southerns points were from forfeits.I think Moore pinned just about everyone of their kids in the first period. It was a mess. As soon as a Southern kid would lose he would go back to the locker room. At the end there was only like the two coaches and a couple wrestlers from southern watching. I'm not sure where the rest were. Pretty humbling though.Yeah but Southern actually beat Moore earlier in the year on tiebreaker points so I heard.Go Redhawks!Yeah we beat moore once, and they beat us once. So its even.Southern's team at horsepower was pretty much the JV squad. Missing almost the whole varsity squad, you cant base our ACTUAL dual team on that tournament.Were looking forward to meeting moore this year. GOOD LUCK!GO TROJANS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Nah, I dont think that was their JV team, maybe two kids.When do you all wrestle Moore this year? Its a match I like to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern112 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Nah, I dont think that was their JV team, maybe two kids.When do you all wrestle Moore this year? Its a match I like to see.Nov 29th. Moore high school. Southern vs moore. Hope to see you there trent :-DFor the record, yes it was our JV squad. Well be ready this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 checked Moore's stats page.Those aren't all JV wrestlersZack Michael WPin 3:00 vs. Barrett (Southern) 112 Detail Shawn Cook WFft vs. Unknown (Southern) 119 Detail Crayton McCain WPin 1:00 vs. King (Southern) 125 Detail Nick Vincent LMaj 12-1 vs. Blanford (Southern) 130 Detail Steven Willbanks WPin 1:00 vs. Durden (Southern) 135 Detail Chris Wise WFft vs. Unknown (Southern) 140 Detail Justin Johnston WPin vs. Durden (Southern) 145 Detail Jimmy Roberts WPin 3:00 vs. Probus (Southern) 152 Detail James Schneider WPin 1:00 vs. Ferguson (Southern) 160 Detail Ethan Dunn WPin 1:00 vs. Brutscher (Southern) 171 Detail Derek Farley WDec 2-0 vs. Entrican (Southern) 285 Detail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern112 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 blandford won 12 to 1 wilson was not therenoe was not there zach was noty there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Which Zack? Entrican or Durden? Or did you all have 3? Because both of those Zacks got beat.BTW, Southern won on tiebreaker during the first Moore match but here is a summary of the actual matches wrestled.Zack Michael WTec 15-0 vs. Barnett (Southern) 112 Shawn Cook LPin 1:00 vs. Noe (Southern) 119 Crayton McCain WMaj 14-4 vs. Blanford (Southern) 130 Steven Willbanks LPin 5:00 vs. H. Durden (Southern) 135 Chris Wise WPin 1:00 vs. Sheets (Southern) 140 Jimmy Roberts WPin 3:00 vs. Z. Durden (Southern) 145 Justin Johnston WPin 1:00 vs. Wilson (Southern) 152 James Schneider WPin 1:00 vs. Brutscher (Southern) 160 Ethan Dunn WPin 1:00 vs. Higgins (Southern) 171 Nice!! I found that on Moore's website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moore112 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 southern is talking like they won by some great score last year, and no they had there entire varsity squad at are turny and we smashed them till there was no one left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 103GBM? Report post Posted October 25, 2007 southern is talking like they won by some great score last year, and no they had there entire varsity squad at are turny and we smashed them till there was no one left umm that was not our varsity that was mostly JV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest valley152 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Sarcasm Stand-upMoore destroys Valley and I know that.Anyways. I guess this Valley152 guy is like the greatest Valley wrestler? 152? Ok so who is this? I think I may know who it is. possibly. Berding? Aren't you the guy that wrestled Mitchell Jones from Moore a few years back. I think I remember you asked for him in an exhibition. Basically called him out. Mitchell wrestled above his weight class and stuck you? Is this you? I hope not. If it is then go ahead and eat crow.Thats the last decent Valley wrestler I can think of besides Raliegh, Rader, and Edwards. I don't believe any of them were 152's.Go Redhawks!Actually i graduated before him..but i was helping out the team then and berding did wrestle mitchell in an exibition and lost by 2 points, not pin....but the year before that at 140 or 145 he majored mitchell....so countin the exibition they were 1-1 .....but that was one of the best wrestlers out of moore.. there hasnt been anyone close to as good as mitchell at moore since he graduated, nd same for berding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest valley152 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 I'm not sure who this Vally 152 is but if this was his weight at Vally then I am not impressed.Golsby had wooped all vally kids the last 2-3 years at or near that wt.. And Golsby lost to the 160 from Moore last year in overtime at the oldham Super duals. Don't get me wrong I probably got wooped myself by whomever, but I am not spouting off either, about myself. you wasnt at 152 when berding was at 152 and the only person you wrestled from valley was daniel radr and that was one time and you only decisioned him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 This Valley kid is running it like he was a state placer. No one knows who you are. We know who the good valley wrestlers were and your name wasn't mentioned. Please go hide again until you decide to tell us which all outstanding valley wrestler you are who would destroy Moore's entire team single handedly and is an expert on strength and conditioning.Go Redhawks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 the first duel at the start of the year they beat us by 1 point and it was all varsity but at horsepower they was missing some of there best guys and thats from a moore wrestlerand valley152 when you wrestled did you ever beat on of the moore kids Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest valley152 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 This Valley kid is running it like he was a state placer. No one knows who you are. We know who the good valley wrestlers were and your name wasn't mentioned. Please go hide again until you decide to tell us which all outstanding valley wrestler you are who would destroy Moore's entire team single handedly and is an expert on strength and conditioning.Go Redhawks!i never said i was great in high school, but onc you've wrestled for 14 years and have trained constintly with excellent wrestlers you tend to learn great techniques and develope into a better wrestler over a period of time....so who are you since your so great?.....and yeah i do know alittle about conditioning since ive been doing it for 14 years and being in the marines, and i got a B.A. degree in health and movent leisure, and a A.S. degree in physical health....so yeah i do know alittle on it.....and what do you know?....what do you have a degree in except being a smart@$$.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 You have been wrestling for 14 years? Got a bunch of degrees? How old are you? Man you look real tough being a grown man saying you can pin or tech all moore wrestlers. wow. Thats pretty sad. A grown man talking about hows he is so great because he could beat a bunch of high school wrestlers. Your helping Valley? man I feel sorry for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofthehill 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 you wasnt at 152 when berding was at 152 and the only person you wrestled from valley was daniel radr and that was one time and you only decisioned him.Your correct that I was not at 152 ever. But Golsby was.And man I love to correct people who don't have all the information.Golsby pinned Daneil Radar twice, and Wrestled Edwards at least twice and destroyed him. OH yeah for the proof on at least one pin check out this link to KHSAA website state tourney 2004 the 140lb weight class consolation rounds. Golsby by pin 1:36 over Radar, or something like that. :-P 8-)http://www.khsaa.org/wrestling/2004/state/khs2004brk008.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old140 4 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 i never said i was great in high school, but onc you've wrestled for 14 years and have trained constintly with excellent wrestlers you tend to learn great techniques and develope into a better wrestler over a period of time....so who are you since your so great?.....and yeah i do know alittle about conditioning since ive been doing it for 14 years and being in the marines, and i got a B.A. degree in health and movent leisure, and a A.S. degree in physical health....so yeah i do know alittle on it.....and what do you know?....what do you have a degree in except being a smart@$$..They must just give degrees out to anyone then. Spelling, grammar, and sentence structure are not part of the curriculum anymore I guess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
57patriot 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 hes not helpin valley, i was up there the other day....and the only people that were helpin was ben edwards, the coach, and me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites