Guest TroJanMan112 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Will 103 be pretty weak this year or is there any new wrestlers that will stand out, what 103s from last year are going to 12, whos staying??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nonstop521 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 WHen is 103 not weak . NO offense but every year it is the youngest kids with little experience. But their still fun to watch because the competition is still tough! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Pappy 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 I can honestly say that 103 (for whatever reason) has declined only recently. I remember in 2001, here was your top dogs at 103: Upchurch -WC, Ford - TRI, Ludwig - BAL, Class - STX, Kruse-Williams - LAF, Von Nguyen - WAG. 2002: Thompson - OC, Denny - SO, Dwyer - SEN, Von Nguyen - WAG, Wurzback - WOOD, Roberts - STX, Rushelle - RY, Robinette - SHCL 2003: Trejo - TC, Rushelle - RY, Denny - SO, Duncan - CH, Parke - WOOD, Martin - SEN, Moon - TRI, Trimble - JC. Nick Chaffin would have placed high in 01 without the injury though he couldn't have beat Upchurch.... To get a comparison, just look at Rushelle and he was tuogh as nails when he was an underclassman as well. Other than Sullivan, none of the other competitors at 103 last year would have placed in any of these three groups IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathound 4 Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Nick Chaffin didn't even go 103 in 2001 and even if he had, I know for a fact he would have beaten Doug Upchurch... To tell you the truth I don't see 1 aspect that Upchurch was better than Chaffin. Upchurch had a good head whip and that was it... he pinned everyone at state with it but it just wouldn't work against a good wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Pappy 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2005 Dang Mathound! You don't have to be so defensive of Nick...He knows that I kid him all the time. But you are right he wasn't 103 in '01...my bad...but he was hurt and did not get to wrestle in the state tournament. Let me see, didn't you win it at 112 in "01 and Nick was at 119 right? (Excuse me but Pappy's gettin' old and can't remember diddly-squat anymore) Did you and Nick ever wrestle each other (in a real match)? And BTW, I will stick with my other statement about last years 103's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Pappy 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2005 Sorry...2002...2002...2002...2002! Man I hate getting old!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119Rider 61 Report post Posted October 21, 2005 I really don't think that 103 is getting weak or ever was weak. If you look back at the records alot of your eventual state champs started out there. They may have not looked great at the time but after a few pounds seemed to be up to the task. Just because they are young or small does not mean they are not good wrestlers. :wink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluegrassbrawler 2 Report post Posted October 21, 2005 Nick Chaffin went 103 in 2000, 112 in 2001, 119 in 2002, and 119 in 2003. He was injured in 2002. In 2001, he finished 2nd, losing to Tyler Baldwin of Woodford Co. in OT in the finals. Billy Clark won it at 112 in 2002. I dont see anyway that Upchurch would have beaten Chaffin in 2001. Chaffin was much improved from his freshman season, a season in which he beat Upchurch in their first meeting and placed 6th in the state. If you want to talk about a tough 103 season, go back to 2000. Four of the placers that season went on to be state champions. 1. Luke Metzker (state champ) 2. Tony Perry 3. Billy Clark (state champ) 4. Nathan Thomas 5. Doug Upchurch (state champ) 6. Nick Chaffin (state champ) As far as Clark and Chaffin, or should I say the Chaffins, wrestling, they all three met several times. Yes, each one of them had wrestled eachother in real matches in tournies or duals, even Nick vs. Heath. They all have a win under their belts versus the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluegrassbrawler 2 Report post Posted October 21, 2005 there were several good wrestlers who did not place that year: Joey Hagedorn (state champ) Billy Whitehouse (2x runner-up) Michael Ford (runner-up) That was a tough class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplinfan 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2005 Wow. It seems 103 serves as a VERY good farm club at the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Pappy 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2005 Thanks brawler. I just remember some of the old days 103's and I think you've helped me make my point that they were just better (or I least that's the way I remember). Not to say at all that these kids today won't progress and I know that we've got some really good kids coming thru the Middle School ranks now...Chaffin lost to Baldwin...really... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cardinalfan 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 i look for sullivan -wayne, carr - union, spencer- johnson central, and luna eastern to all be at 103 this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
State53 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 103 is always a tough weight class I dont care what anyone says alot of those kids turn into state champs years down the road. yes some of the wrestling is sloppy but alot of the competitors are in middle school of lower classmen but it is a great weight class for kids to learn how to be scrappy. Those kids fight tooth and nail and are all over the mat. None of the stalling and cautious wrestling you get in the upper weight classes. I love watching 103 because it is usually wide open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplinfan 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 I like watching the lower classes because of the speed and quickness. Even if for the sake of argument its not the toughest class, its still exciting to watch for that reason. Whether or not its the toughest class doesn't matter all that much if the guys in it are somewhat evenly matched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TroJanMan112 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 i look for sullivan -wayne' date=' carr - union, spencer- johnson central, and luna eastern to all be at 103 this year.[/quote']I heard that luna will be at 112 this year, his friend is wrestling for southern this year and told me. I dont know about carr but im sure sullivan will suck his way to 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DAWG6 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Have to agree, from what I remember, Luna always had to cut heavy to stay close to 103. I see him having to cut to make 12. But, Caleb Wood shoudn't have a hard time with anyone at that weight class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
State53 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 if sullivan is back at 103 i dont see anyone touching him. I found him very impressive for the 103 pound weight class. And i wish carr the best of luck at 103 or 112 i think he can place high at either one and has a shot at winning it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumpTruck 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 I love the 103 pound weight class because it is always chocked full of the great wrestling names of the future. 103's don't believe that your class is weak, just usually young. When you guys get bigger and older you will look back at all the good wrestlers in your 103 class and see what a talented group you were in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOWsingle140 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 ill tell you who to look out for is dusty brown, that kid is good and wresltes all summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UCherk 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2005 adam carr will be at 103 this year,i'm on his team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mat_Man_658 Report post Posted October 26, 2005 it will more than likely be sullivan and carr in the finals again this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumpTruck 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2005 I don't know what he will go, but I think the Corey Spencer will upset one of those gentlemen to be in the 103 finals. I am not sure which one it will be, but it took a late surge and a mistake from Spencer for Carr to beat him in the semi's and one big move is all you need to upset the champ...ask Sullivan, he is a big-move man himself! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TroJanMan112 Report post Posted October 28, 2005 who will be the top 10 competitors at 103 this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrp8825 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 IMO i think shane parks will be one the top contenders at 103 this year! last year he was only 1 match away from placing and he has put on a good 10 pounds of muscle over the summer! Watch for his name this year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mat_Man_658 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 here's what i think should be the top 10 103's 1 Sullivan 2 Carr/spencer dont no they had a close match last year 3 Luna 4 Johnson 5 Fuller 6 Brown 7 Zeppa 8 Parks 9 Cornett 10 Herold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
