ihawk 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 It would be in interesting to see the views from the fans, coaches and wrestlers in regards to traveling to Lexington for the State Dual meet this weekend. It's open season on the format, location, time of year, etc. Several States, as most know already, don't even have a State Dual Championship tournament so I :? wondered why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stand-up 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 I feel that it really pulls a team together. The entire team is there, where as in February, some of the team members may not have made it out of regionals. Every match becomes a must win when Dualing the states top teams. Unlike the State individual tournament where it's every man for himself, State Duals call upon the collective talents of each team member 103 all the way to the big guys. At the State Duals there is the opportunity for some of the lesser ranked kids to step up beat a guy in his weight class and become a team hero. I believe it is the true definition of team championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 Time of the year is an interesting concept. If the KHSAA would sanction this event I believe the best time for this event would be the weekend after the individual state tourney. Scheduling has always been a problem for this event. If it were after the state tourney those teams invited to the tourney could participate with no scheduling conflicts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccbcdeke 43 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 the best time for this event would be the weekend after the individual state tourney. That's what Indiana does, but I heard at Mater Dei that this year was going to be the last year for the Duals. idk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihawk 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 Injury risk and the grueling format are high on the list of cons but the chance for wrestlers to get some serious matches (in one day) on their college resume is a big plus in my opinion. Maybe moving it to the beginning of the season would be a good idea to see which wrestlers are really serious after several months of R & R. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachJ 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 I like the idea of combining the two state tournaments into the same event. I know at least one state (Minnesota) does this. This gives more kids the opportunity to participate on the big stage. Although a majority of the wrestlers that will be at state duals will also be at state this year it might not be the same way as the state as a whole improves.Yes, it would be a risk to kids to wrestle both at the same time but then there is just as much chance for a kid to get hurt this weekend and be out for state as well. anyway attached is how Minnesota does there schedule as an example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
handfight 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 I think Iowa has them after the state tournament, and I think the teams invited to participate are based on the top finishing teams at the state meet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 Time of the year is an interesting concept. If the KHSAA would sanction this event I believe the best time for this event would be the weekend after the individual state tourney. Scheduling has always been a problem for this event. If it were after the state tourney those teams invited to the tourney could participate with no scheduling conflicts. Kind of like an all-star weekend? I like that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2008 why dont the team that win go on to face teams from other states? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 Unions team took on other states teams consisted of all state champs this past summer at the Dixie nationals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 Unions team took on other states teams consisted of all state champs this past summer at the Dixie nationals. yes but was it because they won state Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
high crotch 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 the problem with having state tournament and duals back to back is that some kids will get 10 or more matches in those 4 days, plus that will make that weekend a 4day wiegh-in and im not sure there are very many kids who would be up for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 no. they wanted to get some great experience and mat time over the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 the problem with having state tournament and duals back to back is that some kids will get 10 or more matches in those 4 days, plus that will make that weekend a 4day wiegh-in and im not sure there are very many kids who would be up for thatyes i need time off, i have little aces and pains that need to rest 8-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 aches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ˢʰᵃʷⁿ¹¹² 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 aches?oops lol i type fast and dont Proofread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumpTruck 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2008 What time does State Duals start and how long do they usually go on? I am going to try to go and I don't want to miss anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites