DJP1 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 I have heard through the grapevine that there will be an ALL "A" state tournament next year. Does anyone have any info on this....when, where & what schools may be eligible ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted March 3, 2011 If it's modeled after the basketball, baseball and softball All A tourneys, I'd guess those schools who are 1A in football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 District 1 - Fulton City, Fulton County, Mayfield, Russellville District 2 - Bethlehem, Caverna, Holy Cross (Louisville), Kentucky Country Day District 3 - Bracken County, Eminence, Frankfort, Paris District 4 - Beechwood, Bellevue, Dayton, Ludlow District 5 - Berea, Campbellsville, Lynn Camp, Williamsburg District 6 - Harlan, Hazard, Jenkins, Pineville District 7 - Fairview, Nicholas County, Paintsville, Raceland District 8 - Allen Central, Phelps, Pikeville, South Floyd Since these are next years A1 schools there would only be one team next year. Holy Cross (Lou) unless KCD keeps their team.Just in case anyone is wondering here is next years football divisions. APPROVED 2011-14 KHSAA FOOTBALL ALIGNMENT CLASS 1A District 1 - Fulton City, Fulton County, Mayfield, Russellville District 2 - Bethlehem, Caverna, Holy Cross (Louisville), Kentucky Country Day District 3 - Bracken County, Eminence, Frankfort, Paris District 4 - Beechwood, Bellevue, Dayton, Ludlow District 5 - Berea, Campbellsville, Lynn Camp, Williamsburg District 6 - Harlan, Hazard, Jenkins, Pineville District 7 - Fairview, Nicholas County, Paintsville, Raceland District 8 - Allen Central, Phelps, Pikeville, South Floyd CLASS 2A District 1 - Ballard Memorial, Caldwell County, Crittenden County, Murray, Reidland District 2 - Butler County, Hancock County, McLean County, Owensboro Catholic, Todd County Central, Union County District 3 - Clinton County, Glasgow, Green County, Metcalfe County District 4 - Bardstown, Christian Academy-Louisville, DeSales, Fort Knox, Shawnee, Washington County District 5 - Carroll County, Gallatin County, Owen County, Trimble County, Walton-Verona District 6 - Bishop Brossart, Holy Cross (Covington), Lloyd Memorial, Newport, Newport Central Catholic District 7 - Danville, Lexington Christian, Middlesboro, Somerset District 8 - Betsy Layne, Leslie County, Prestonsburg, Shelby Valley CLASS 3A District 1 - Fort Campbell, Heath, Paducah Tilghman, Trigg County, Webster County, District 2 - Adair County, Edmonson County, Hart County, Monroe County, South Warren District 3 - Central, Elizabethtown, Henry County, Larue County District 4 – Bell County, Casey County, Corbin, McCreary Central, Wayne County District 5 - Bath County, Bourbon County, Estill County, Garrard County, Powell County, Western Hills District 6 - East Carter, Fleming County, Lewis County, Mason County, Russell, West Carter District 7 - Breathitt County, Jackson County, Knott County Central, Magoffin County, Morgan County District 8 - Belfry, East Ridge, Lawrence County, Pike County Central, Sheldon Clark CLASS 4A District 1 - Calloway County, Hopkins County Central, Lone Oak, Madisonville-North Hopkins, Owensboro District 2 - Allen County-Scottsville, Breckinridge County, Franklin-Simpson, Warren East District 3 - Atherton, Collins, North Oldham, Spencer County, Waggener District 4 – Doss, Fairdale, Moore, Valley, Western District 5 - Boyle County, Lexington Catholic, Marion County, Mercer County, Taylor County District 6 - Clay County, Knox Central, Rockcastle County, Russell County District 7 - Covington Catholic, Harrison County, Highlands, Holmes, Pendleton County District 8 - Ashland Blazer, Boyd County, Greenup County, Johnson Central, Rowan County CLASS 5A District 1 - Apollo, Christian County, Graves County, Hopkinsville, Ohio County District 2 - Barren County, Bowling Green, Greenwood, Logan County, Warren Central District 3 - Grayson County, Iroquois, Jeffersontown, John Hardin, North Hardin District 4 - Bullitt Central, Bullitt East, North Bullitt, Shelby County District 5 - Conner, Cooper, Grant County, Scott, South Oldham District 6 - Anderson County, East Jessamine, Franklin County, Montgomery County, West Jessamine, Woodford County District 7 - Lincoln County, Madison Southern, North Laurel, Pulaski County, South Laurel, Southwestern District 8 - Harlan County, Letcher County Central, Perry County Central, Whitley County CLASS 6A District 1 - Daviess County, Henderson County, Marshall County, Muhlenberg County District 2 - Central Hardin, Meade County, Nelson County District 3 – Butler, Pleasure Ridge Park, Seneca, Southern District 4 - DuPont Manual, Male, St. Xavier, Trinity (Louisville) District 5 - Ballard, Eastern, Fern Creek, Oldham County District 6 - Boone County, Campbell County, Dixie Heights, Ryle, Simon Kenton (*) District 7 - Bryan Station, Henry Clay, Paul Laurence Dunbar, Scott County District 8 - George Rogers Clark, Lafayette, Madison Central, Tates Creek (*) For 2011 and 2012 playing season, the 5th place team in District 6 of Class 6A will be bracketed as the number four (4) seed in District 2 for the purpose of making playoff pairings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 Hey, I've been the head coach of both A wrestling teams. And coming from a guy who has coached kids from the smallest schools in KY to compete in wrestling, I still say "WE DO NOT NEED TO DIVIDE THE STATE". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scissortrip 1 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 relax ranger, haha, i believe what is being kicked around is something similiar to what basketball does with their all "a" tourney. that is it is basically an invite in the middle of the season of the smaller schools. josh is wrong in assuming it is based upon the football class criteria. basketball does not use this criteria either. the basketball coaches association decides who is "a" and who isnt. i would assume then that the host tourney of this event, Walton Verona, would ask the wrestling coaches association who they deem as small school and invite that group. so this would not be an official khsaa recognized state championship, similiar to the basketball set up. so the next question is what are the teams that the coaches association deem to be small school? this answer will tell you who will be invited to the all A tourney. i am sure it will take a few years to take off, but eventually i see it growing to something union and larue would even attend on a yearly basis. i believe this is the brainchild of bill boyle from what i am told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 I'm fine and totally good with an All A tournament as it has been talked about. I just don't like the large school small school division debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bearcats 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 I think all "A" for basketball is the 120 lowest enrollment in the state. You would have to find the list of teams who are on the basketball all "A" and see who has wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 I would say that you take the number of schools that have wrestling in the state of KY. Then divide those schools into 3. The lowest 1/3 should get to attend. That will give you a base for the enrollment who would qualify for the All "A" wrestling classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 I would say that you take the number of schools that have wrestling in the state of KY. Then divide those schools into 3. The lowest 1/3 should get to attend. That will give you a base for the enrollment who would qualify for the All "A" wrestling classic. I say you take the number of schools, divide is by 13 (nice random number), square it, cut off the top 13 (might as well us use that random number again), multiple it by 0, then add the original number again. Honestly, I think it is going to take a few years for something like this to get it's feet under it with scheduling. Sort of like the JV state. Some teams have their schedules set and have a hard time fitting something in if they aren't completely into it and sold on the benefit of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridafan 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2011 So it appears that the all "A" classic is sponsored by Touchstone Energy. If wrestling was to be added to the list of sports and sponsored by Touchstone, then I see 1 really good reason for the schools to attend and that is scholarship money. Touchstone gave out 49 scholarships of no less than 1000 dollars to each recipient last year alone, and a total of 77,000. They currently have 8 sports/arts that they equally divide the scholarships amongst. Wrestling makes 9. So you would assume anywhere from 5-6 senior only wrestlers would get a minimum of 1000 dollars to apply to their college education. By my count, and i will include the current member school list below, there are 12 schools that currently have wrestling on the member list. Any school can apply to be a member school and must meet an obvious enrollment criteria that changes every year. I can say that if Walton Verona goes this route to start this tournament that schools may just change their schedules a bit. Because you can either take home a medal or a 1000 bucks. Might not take so long after all ranger. ALL ‘A’ CLASSIC SCHOLARSHIP FOUNDATION 2010-2011 YEAR GENERAL INFORMATION: The Touchstone Energy All ‘A’ Classic is pleased to again announce the availability of non-renewable scholarships/grants-in-aid awarded annually to deserving seniors from Kentucky’s small high schools who will be continuing their ucation at a post-secondary school within the state of Kentucky. ed ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA: To be eligible, an applicant must: 1. Be a U.S. citizen or in the process of obtaining citizenship and a Kentucky resident; 2. Be a senior student in good standing at a Kentucky high school that is a member of the All ‘A’ Classic; 3. Plan to attend a post-secondary institution in the State of Kentucky in the upcoming year as a full-time student; 4. Be Drug Free; 5. Submit an accurate and complete application by the designated deadline. AWARD AMOUNT: In 2010-2011, a minimum of twelve (12) $1,000 dollar scholarships will be awarded to senior students planning to attend any post-secondary institution within the state of Kentucky. This includes public and private colleges/universities, community colleges, and vocational & technical schools. Funds will be disbursed equally between the two (2) semesters ($500 each semester of the student’s first year) and credited to the student’s account by the participating institution. (During the 2009-2010 school year $77,000 was awarded) Region 1(12) Region 7(6) Region 13(8) Ballard Memorial Brown Barbourville Carlisle County Christian Academy-Lou. Harlan Christian Fellowship Louisville Collegiate Lynn Camp Community Christian Kentucky Country Day Middlesboro Fulton City Saint Francis Oneida Baptist Fulton County Whitefield Academy Pineville Heath Red Bird Hickman County Region 8(7) Williamsburg Mayfield Carroll County Murray Eminence Region 14(10) Reidland Gallatin County Buckhorn Saint Mary Owen County Cordia Trimble County Hazard Region 2(7) Walton-Verona Jackson City Caldwell County Williamstown Jenkins Crittenden County June Buchanan Dawson Springs Region 9(10) Lee County Livingston Central Beechwood Leslie County Lyon County Bellevue Owsley County Trigg County Cov Holy Cross Wolfe County University Heights Dayton Lloyd Memorial Region 3(6) Ludlow Region 15(10) Butler County Newport Allen Central Frederick Fraize New Cent Cath Betsy Layne Hancock County Saint Henry Paintsville McLean County Villa Madonna Phelps Owensboro Catholic Piarist Whitesville Trinity Pikeville Region 10(9) Prestonsburg Region 4(7) Augusta Shelby Valley Clinton County Bishop Brossart Sheldon Clark Cumberland County Bracken County South Floyd Glasgow Calvary Christian Metcalfe County Deming Region 16(8) Monroe County Nicholas County Bath County Russellville Paris Elliott County Todd County Central Saint Patrick Fairview Silver Grove Menifee County Region 5(7) Morgan County Bardstown Region 11(5) Raceland Bethlehem Berea Rose Hill Christian Campbellsville Frankfort West Carter Caverna Lexington Christian Fort Knox Model Green County Sayre Washington County Region 12(4) Region 6(7) Burgin Beth Haven Danville DeSales Monticello Evangel Christian Somerset Lou Holy Cross Portland Christian Presentation Shawnee TOUCHSTONE ENERGY ALL "A' CLASSIC 2010-2011 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted March 5, 2011 Very good information floridafan. That definitely changes things. With sponsorship and scholarship money involved then I think this could definitely work. I still think the timing and scheduling of the event will determine a lot of participation. And I don't see the big dogs of the small schools (teams like Union and Larue, if they make the enrollment cut) jumping in until the competition is there to use a weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
