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  1. 19 hours ago, Jon Wells said:

    Mat experience is something to believe in.  Everyone knows you can't recreate the intensity of a match in practice.  Wrestlers should get something out of every match win or lose. They elevate their wrestling by stepping out into the square circle every time. When they have executed their moves in and out of practice they will be successful.  Wojo showed his abilities to be successful with his win total this year. I am confident he would have beaten Ayden if it wasn't a two day event. He was a big 150, and the 2nd day was a tough go. I don't think his loss was from being one dimensional.  I think it was from his first match on the 2nd day against the scale.

    I mean yes and no. Of those 75 matches let's be real he wrestled like 8 guys that were halfway decent. As far as size Wojo was massive but I literally called what was going to happen before It happened. Wojo wrestled great all year, but when It comes down to the final important matches where game plans are made he has a post hi-c and a dump with the mix of ugly outside shots. Nobody really attacked him in any of the matches I watched and Ayden let It all out and got 3 takedowns in the first. It was a bad match up for Wojo, Aydens nearly impossible to score on when it's a good shot, much less a bad one. 


  2. On 2/14/2024 at 11:54 AM, Idk. said:

    Trumble over Wojcicki is crazy considering the fact that Wojcicki already beat him and the only points rider scored were from cuts

     

    1 hour ago, gator1 said:

    Oops! 

    I think Wojo got a lot better last year to this year but by the time State came he was too one dimensional and easy to coach against. He may have the record for most wins in a year though, I've never seen anyone with 70 matches in a year much less 75 or whatever wins. 


  3. On 2/14/2024 at 12:51 PM, Elite Training Center KY said:

    Not counting him out at all! I think Wojo looks solid this year. I do know Rider did little to nothing practice wise the month leading to his match with Wojo due to injury and it was still 5-3 with Rider trying to force a merkle when it was 3-3. I expected Wojo to beat Rider MUCH worse considering. I even won a friendly bet and took Wojo over Rider in this match. 

    As far as Rider and Wojo at state, I dont think it happens. I think Ayden takes out Wojo on top side. 

    Not always completely wrong, DOMINATING 7-4 win for Ayden with 3 takedowns to 0 and only giving up cut points. We might still see the Rider Wojo match afterall!


  4. 9 hours ago, GentleBeard said:

    Didn’t expect to see these returning champs battle it out in the blood round, though. From state champ to not placing is tough.

    Crazy to see. I would not be shocked to see Blevins pull this out. For someone like Evans who a lot of people saw as a lock (myself included) it will be interesting to see how he shows up today. He may come in today and tech his way to third. Third is sometimes harder to get than first in my opinion.


  5. 4 hours ago, PPmothman said:

    He will be 19 like a lot of the seniors here now. He’s a tough tough competitor. Kids focused and can flat out wrestle. 120 is a crazy weight this year. 

    Boom! Love that he has cleaned up some of the concerns with mat wrestling that a lot of people had. Much more well rounded this year! Pumped for any kid that goes out to put lots of points up.


  6. 59 minutes ago, Idk. said:

    Nah you’re wrong wojo got that dawg in him

    I'm wrong a lot, and dawg is one thing you can't account for. Not the prettiest against Ray but in the state series a win is a win! Excited to see these guys battle It out the rest of the tournament. 


  7. On 2/14/2024 at 10:53 AM, Elite Training Center KY said:

    14 Jordyn Raney

    13 Jaydyn Raney

    12 Malachia Harris

    11 Landon Evans

    10 Jack James

    9 Lane Kiser

    8 Roman Valera 

    7 Carter Guilliaume

    6 Dalton Matney

    5 Rider Trumble

    4 Lucas Ricketts

    3 Christian Delos Santos

    2 Hunter Jenkins

    1 Tj Meyer

    Can I change my picks LOL


  8. 1 hour ago, Idk. said:

    Really idk I think wojo v Ayden will be close but I don’t see Wojcicki losing it tbh

    Personally I think that Wojo is really technically sound, and those are the guys that Ayden does well against. He is extremely hard to finish on and I don't think Wojo has the speed/creativeness to crack him. Seeing that Wojo lost the overall takedown battle on his feet to Nichols 3 takedowns to 2 at mustang I just don't have a ton of confidence. Of the 2 takedowns that Wojo did get one was in overtime. Wojo is definitely in the running for a title, I just don't love his draw. He is a tough kid so I wouldn't be shocked to see him pull it off.


  9. 26 minutes ago, cw05 said:

    agree, lot of guys counting him out in the picks probably due to lack of experience at the high level but he’s been pretty convincing in his wins over the top 4 guys

    Not counting him out at all! I think Wojo looks solid this year. I do know Rider did little to nothing practice wise the month leading to his match with Wojo due to injury and it was still 5-3 with Rider trying to force a merkle when it was 3-3. I expected Wojo to beat Rider MUCH worse considering. I even won a friendly bet and took Wojo over Rider in this match. 

    As far as Rider and Wojo at state, I dont think it happens. I think Ayden takes out Wojo on top side. 


  10. 106 Roman over Braxton

    113 Christian over Kapela 

    120 Evans over Smith

    126 Raney over Jonah

    132 Raney over Reeves

    138 Tj over Whorton

    144 Johns over Jenkins

    150 Trumble over Ayden

    157 Malachia over Faucett

    165 Matney over Speaker

    175 Ricketts over Strayer

    190 Lane train over Virzi

    215 James over Frazier

    HWT Carter over Whitehead


    100% a bunch of bias picks. I think Isaac is going to revamp the Woodford program with a title like Shane did for Stanford. At 106 I would love to see Roman and Luke in finals but same side. I think Braxton has been in the heat all year with unions schedule and Wells hasn't seen anyone but Koller so I like battle tested. Christian cut his hair so he's atleast 20% faster for state, easy pick for me. Raneys are gonna Raney. Trumble and Ayden are the boys so I just went off of last match result. Smith vs. Blevins is my favorite match at 120. I think Landon is just too much for everyone else at weight. Big Whorton fan but lack of dominance (pins/techs) over not good guys made me go TJ. Faucett is always in a match and isn't afraid to go big, Malachia still clear favorite. Lane deserves a title. Just went off rankings and gut for rest of weights 

     


  11. 2 hours ago, 385 said:

    138 #3 vs #8 First round as well. 4 of the top 8 wrestlers being in region 1 makes for a tough draw for Hunter Luttrell.

    I think Luttrell wants to win a title. If he's worrying about #8 guys he's already lost IMO. Not saying to look past them but he's a top 3 guy for a reason. 138 isn't the weight I see KY having 8 guys as title contenders. I think 150 is the deepest as far as people actually capable of winning a title and I would say cut off there is with Lehman at 6. 


  12. 2 hours ago, GentleBeard said:

    @ 126, #6 vs #7 in the first round to likely wrestle #10 2nd round, to then wrestle either #25 or #28 (most likely) in the quarters.  One would think that there's a better way to seed this thing. Hate to see top 8 wrestlers get knocked out due to draws that require them wrestling each other and #20 (by example) get on the podium by not wrestling anyone inside the top 10.  It's a lot easier to say "let them settle it on the mat" when it is somewhat seeded than when you have random draws like we do. #1 vs #3 at 120 in the quarters and #1 vs #2 at 175 in the semis is another head scratcher.  KHSAA out here teaching "life isn't fair" lessons to everyone haha 

    I get that stuff like this happens. With that being said if they seeded the KY state tournament you would literally have to watch 2 straight rounds of first and second period falls and techs. I would rather watch 2 good (or even really bad for that matter) guys battle back and forth over good guys pinning bad guys. At that point go to 16 man brackets. Pretty sure Ranger did the stats one year on guys outside of the top 16 placing and it's EXTREMELY low. This is clearly coming from a spectator and not a coach with a draw like this LOL. 

     

     


  13. 8 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:

    What is wrong with having a few exciting matches in the semi's and quarters. Keeps the whole tournament exciting.  Having an athlete move up or down one spot in placement ultimately is not a big deal. 

    1000% Agree. People want to say "look at other sports" well other sports like basketball and football don't get the chance to fight back for 3rd-8th. Only thing that matters is 1st. 

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  14. 58 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

    Every sport does it. Most wrestling tourneys do it. If ironman and Super32 can do it, then we can do it here. Seeding the 8 regional champs will make it even worse. There are times the top 3 in a weight are in the same region. If you run from competition, just to keep a good record, it will do no good according to track. 

    Personally I don't think you can look at one off national tournaments like Super 32 or Ironman as examples. National level guys from 30 different states aren't gonna hurt state seeds. I'm in the heat of battle up here in Iowa in a state that seeds EVERYONE and it's miserable. All the teams including the best teams in the state couple top 50 in COUNTRY teams are forfeiting and ducking to protect seeds.

    Literally 2 weights have clear 1 and 2 guys right now in Kentucky. One of those weights the 1 is probably 10 points better on a bad day than the number 2. Seeding isn't something that's hurting Kentucky due to having decent depth from guys 1-5. I am all for seeding if there is big bonus to wrestling good in state comp and little down side if you lose to other high level guys. Idk how that all works on track wrestling. I still don't think it's needed (YET). 


  15. Let's look at the weights 

    106-Wells hasn't wrestled anyone in top 5 as far as I know but Koller who he controlled at WCI 10-2 or so and should finish undefeated until state. Cornwell has beat Roman but lost to Koller and union. Roman dominated Koller twice before pinning. So top 5 guys based on that flip a coin on seeds. 

    113-Birk set his place as the 1 pretty clear (but not a lock imo) and flip a coin for next 3 guys on seeds.

    120 clear number 1 and imo a lock for Landon. Flip a coin for next 3 guys

    126 clear number 1 and lock for Raney. Flip a coin for next 4-5 guys

    132 clear number 1 and lock for Raney. Flip a coin for next 2 guys. (Reeves is probably a clear 2 but not 1000% sold)

    138 this is the first weight seeding could be a impact. TJ and Whorton are clear 1-2 seed and big gap after. 
     

    144 Jenkins clear number 1 as of now. Flip coin for next 3-4 guys. 
     

    150 Miller clear 1 as of now. Flip a coin for next 5-6 guys. Millers 9-8 match with Wojo shows the depth at 150. 
     

    157 clear number 1 in malachia. Flip coin for next 4 guys. Faucett could spladle his way to a title

    165 put matney at 1 but honestly flip a coin for seeding on 1-5. 
     

    175 put Seth at 1 but again flip a coin for 1-4 at this weight

    190 Clear 1 and 2 with Lane and Uriah. This is the Second weight seeding would help of 14. 

    215 Jack at 1 next couple guys flip a coin

    Hwt Carter at 1 and again, next couple guys flip a coin. 
     

    I went off of Rangers rankings on these so could be upsets recent that changes this ,but if so, It only makes my point more. Of the 14 weights, I see 2 that have a clear 1 and 2 guy. Of one of those It might be better to get third so less people watch Raney do what he does lol. I don't think seeding is that big of a deal as of yet. 

     


  16. 17 minutes ago, Parrott Wing said:

    Agree completely GOO and I've never heard or seen any state run a true second at the state tournament at the high school level either. Coming from someone that lost in the state finals, as a high school kid that's a lot to take in, then to have to turn around and wrestle a true 2nd would be brutal.

    Indiana use to do true second for middle school (maybe they still do idk) and It was terrible. Just get better and don't lose in quarters is all I can say. Realistically what's the difference between second and third.

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  17. I completely understand why someone would want seeding. A year ago I would 100% agree. I moved to Iowa right before season and have finally got to be up to date on a state that "loves wrestling" and I can say that Iowa wrestling is a joke DUE TO SEEDING. Coaches are doing everything in their power to protect kids seeds so everyone is ducking each other after the second or third week of season. I watched a rivalry dual of 2 pretty tough teams and 80% of the matches were 2nd and third string kids. I asked the coach why and they straight up said "we have to protect seeds for state". NCAA did the same thing. I don't blame the coaches, end of year is what matters for most of these kids. 
     

    I can say as a fan AND coach I enjoy the Kentucky season much more than Iowa season because KY kids aren't afraid to wrestle each other. We are also not as far behind as a lot of people think. Numbers is the number one issue with Kentucky, we just need more schools with wrestling. 

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