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11 hours ago, jasonlocke said:Here is our list of KY boys so far
Elementary120 Owen Lamer
Middle School
112 Peyton Harrison180 Marcus James
High School
120 Isaac Thornton
160 Dalton Russelburg
182 Stephen Little
You’re getting an absolute animal in Stephen Little, one of the funkiest wrestlers I’ve seen in my lifetime with Dalton Russelburg, and a kid who gives his all every match and is just a plain winner in Isaac Thornton. Good pick ups.
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Just now, 385 said:It amazes me just how little the khsaa does for wrestling. They basically let ranger and a few others run the entire sport for them. When ranger steps down, there will be no rankings.
Rankings will be easier if everyone posted their results each week to Trackwrestling. Rankwrestlers.com does a good job of compiling rankings based on head to head, win percentages, previous years state results, etc. only if each team updates their results. The problem is, you have old outdated tournament formats not ran on track and other teams who choose to "hide" their results until regionals.
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A coaching friend of mine in western KY is looking for a wrestling mat anyone is willing to part with. He said around 24x30 size or similar. If anyone can lead us in that direction, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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1 hour ago, panthers said:This was the first year we didn't wrestle the matches in order by the bout numbers. If we are going to continue to do it this way might want to put mat assignments on the big screen for all to see and tell people. I personally liked the old way of next available but I get it this is the way all trackwrestling is done now.
Trust me, Jon Carr tried to make that happen and some of the KHSAA members were not too happy with that idea. I bet that'll be done next year.
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20 minutes ago, DrBaker said:I won with a total of 103 thanks to my darkhorse (Darius Moore) making the finals.
2nd was Wkywrestler with 99.
3rd was Hawkeye with 93.
I had 94. I know we used to do the darkhorse in the past where what they placed vs what they were ranked and you got the difference. I didn't realize it was changed up this year.
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On 2/10/2020 at 2:53 PM, ukpridewrestler11 said:106: Moore, Williams, Tucker, Reeves, Teutsch, Brown, Hardin, Zinser
113: Eckman, Fowler, Gilbert, Dick, Johnson, Sallee, Meyer, Feree
120: Thomas, Thornton, Herron, Lawson, Hedges, Banfield, Ricketts, Evans
126: Herron, Walls, Hoppes, Kinley, Fuji, Webb, Wells, Pittmann
132: Adams, Lutes, Deck, Andreoni, Elliott, Green, Hite, McKune
138 w/Rider: Insko, Yost, Cowan, Rider, Grant-Hall, Vilums, Pierce, Giompalo
138 w/o Rider: Insko, Yost, Cowan, Pierce, Grant-Hall, Vilums, Grandstaff, Giompalo
145: Pogue, Lehman, Merritt, Goss, Futrell, Conrad, Deckard, Grimsley
152: Carr, Gianonne, Preston, Conner, Hudgins, Young, McCubbin, Walls
160: Russelburg, Lawrence, Ketchen-Carter, Brooks, Nance, Skuljian, Aldridge, Karr
170: Little, Stevens, Moberly, Marrett, Fink, Powell, Wright, Adams
182: Ervin, Gibson, Duke, Coleman, Nicodemus, Scantlon, Simpson, Geilear
195: Mayer, Miller, Rodriguez, Virzi, Bush, Martin, Seales-Portee, Avila
220: Bussell, Moore, Smith, Ornealas, Christian, Brooksbank, Huff, Hendricks
285: Ervin, Shelton, Stone, Kelly, Watkins, Tshiunza, Stray, Key
86/112 placers, 11/14 champs, 22/28 finalists.
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1 hour ago, GentleBeard said:I think Cox was a Senior this year? Hope I’m wrong. Kid is an absolute stud and no doubt helped the middle weights in the practice room. Guys like that are extremely valuable to a good team.
He’s a junior.
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29 minutes ago, Keepyourheadup said:Gibson being up by 12 with 55 seconds left and getting caught and pinned was pretty surprising. He met the kid again in conso semis and teched him by middle of 2nd
That was nuts. Jack James making the semifinals was a surprising run. Collin Teutsch made the semifinals for Caldwell County, beating Olivia Messerly second round. Then Messerly turns around and loses to a kid she beat twice this year from Campbell County. State is so unpredictable. Anything can happen.
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2 hours ago, Wkywrestler said:I would say Ty Lehman going the distance beating Merritt and Pogue was one of the bigger surprises of the tournament
Hell of a tournament run for Lehman. Kid looked strong as an ox. Union has a JV kid coming up next year who beat Lehman at the raider rumble last season. He’s relatively unknown now but could be someone worth mentioning next season. Darius Moore over #2 Smith second round was huge.
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On 2/10/2020 at 7:59 PM, ukpridewrestler11 said:14 - Micah Ervin
13- Payne Carr
12- Cole Thomas
11- Spencer Moore
10- Niko Bussell
9- Matthias Ervin
8- Daulton Mayer
7- Trayce Eckman
6- Stephen Little
5- Dalton Russelburg
4- Jake Insko
3- Devin Herron 126
2- Gabe Adams
1- Trevor Pogue
MOW- Micah Ervin
Team- Union 297.5
Darkhorse - TyDarius Kelly 285
11/14 correct. Dark horse ranked 17th, placed 4th. 1.5 points off unions total.
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On 2/10/2020 at 7:59 PM, ukpridewrestler11 said:14 - Micah Ervin
13- Payne Carr
12- Cole Thomas
11- Spencer Moore
10- Niko Bussell
9- Matthias Ervin
8- Daulton Mayer
7- Trayce Eckman
6- Stephen Little
5- Dalton Russelburg
4- Jake Insko
3- Devin Herron 126
2- Gabe Adams
1- Trevor Pogue
MOW- Micah Ervin
Team- Union 297.5
Darkhorse - TyDarius Kelly 285
All my guys still alive after day one.
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Anxiously awaiting this years Ranger Report.
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4 minutes ago, halfhalfhalf said:Does he still have them from the last few years he has been on the golf course?
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3 hours ago, Jim Henderson said:What happen to garcia at 126 he is no longer on the bracket
Good catch. He was originally in bout 53. He must be out, seeing they bumped up everyone and threw in their alternate from the region.
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6 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:And NO I was not around for all of that. I'm not that old born in late 60's that's old enough.
My stepdad has the brackets you are missing.
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4 minutes ago, FalconWrestling said:Rankwrestlers has a lot of flaws considering it is constrained by the data it has access to, the flaw isn't with the system per se but the issues of data management and scheduling
It would be a lot more accurate if people were forced to keep their track wrestling results updated weekly. It would be a great tool for ranking. The problem is some kids and teams from out of state aren’t on track at all so those wins and losses really only reflect against the record and not the overall score for a wrestler.
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31 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:Now if we could find someone like Ranger who spent every day/week looking at outcomes and was able to set aside bias. I would be aboard 100%.
I would guess at least 2-3 hours a day reviewing data throughout the year is what it would take.
Who at KHSAA has any wrestling background and would be able to accomplish this?
In three years, Ranger needs to set this up as a contractor for the state.
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10 hours ago, Ranger123 said:Ok, the final update after regionals. This is the final RANKING and does not have anything to do with state. The Ranger report will consider the bracket and draws.
I won't blab much here as I need to spend every waking moment working on the report (Spencer is actually spending an inordinate amount of time helping me with a lot of it).
The only regional things I will address are: 1) great team race in region 6 and 2) many region 6 coaches were appalled that the last minute weight allowance prevented 2 wrestlers from competing because they were too light per KHSAA directive
Best of luck to everyone and looking forward to another great and safe state tournament!
Question about the two wrestlers who weren't allowed to compete. Did this extra two pounds push them to a lower weight class and they weren't allowed to bump up more than 1 weight class?
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14 - Micah Ervin
13- Payne Carr
12- Cole Thomas
11- Spencer Moore
10- Niko Bussell
9- Matthias Ervin
8- Daulton Mayer
7- Trayce Eckman
6- Stephen Little
5- Dalton Russelburg
4- Jake Insko
3- Devin Herron 126
2- Gabe Adams
1- Trevor Pogue
MOW- Micah Ervin
Team- Union 297.5
Darkhorse - TyDarius Kelly 285
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3 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:Already picking 2nd round picks? At 126 both Martinez and Wells have to make it past tough 1st round matches before meeting.
Martinez has to beat Pittman and Martinez has to defeat Simmons.
PIttman defeated Martinez earlier this season and Simmons defeated Wells this season.
126 has been a mess all year.
my bracket has pittman over martinez in second round.
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106: Moore, Williams, Tucker, Reeves, Teutsch, Brown, Hardin, Zinser
113: Eckman, Fowler, Gilbert, Dick, Johnson, Sallee, Meyer, Feree
120: Thomas, Thornton, Herron, Lawson, Hedges, Banfield, Ricketts, Evans
126: Herron, Walls, Hoppes, Kinley, Fuji, Webb, Wells, Pittmann
132: Adams, Lutes, Deck, Andreoni, Elliott, Green, Hite, McKune
138 w/Rider: Insko, Yost, Cowan, Rider, Grant-Hall, Vilums, Pierce, Giompalo
138 w/o Rider: Insko, Yost, Cowan, Pierce, Grant-Hall, Vilums, Grandstaff, Giompalo
145: Pogue, Lehman, Merritt, Goss, Futrell, Conrad, Deckard, Grimsley
152: Carr, Gianonne, Preston, Conner, Hudgins, Young, McCubbin, Walls
160: Russelburg, Lawrence, Ketchen-Carter, Brooks, Nance, Skuljian, Aldridge, Karr
170: Little, Stevens, Moberly, Marrett, Fink, Powell, Wright, Adams
182: Ervin, Gibson, Duke, Coleman, Nicodemus, Scantlon, Simpson, Geilear
195: Mayer, Miller, Rodriguez, Virzi, Bush, Martin, Seales-Portee, Avila
220: Bussell, Moore, Smith, Ornealas, Christian, Brooksbank, Huff, Hendricks
285: Ervin, Shelton, Stone, Kelly, Watkins, Tshiunza, Stray, Key
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Random draw always gives us some high powered second round matchups.
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45 minutes ago, wrastler_ said:I truly 100% believe all three make the semis this weekend.
Walls vs Hoppes will be one hell of a match 2nd round. Don't count Walls out yet.
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Takeaways from state
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You have kids that wrestle terrible competition with 35-0, 40-1 records and kids from these other teams that actually challenge themselves out of state against top ranked competition with 4-5+ losses and will get seeded worse than those kids with nearly unblemished records. Darius Moore for example only had two in state losses, both to the state champ. He had several losses out of state and barely cracked the top 15 in rankings, whereas on rankwrestlers.com which uses trackwrestling to create their rankings, he was top 5 almost all season. He was a no-brainer for darkhorse.
Tournaments ran on track like Mater Dei and Father Ryan's use track information for seeding. The seeds are automatically generated based on criteria points (record, at least so many matches recorded on track, previous years tournament results, previous state results, head to head). There is usually not much to change when the automatic seeds are released.