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13 minutes ago, LCalum said:I believe he is saying what if 3 wrestlers all end up with 6 points based on the criteria. And end in a tie. Then what? Wrestler A wins criteria point over wrestler B. Wrestler B holds criteria point over wrestler C. Wrestler C holds criteria point over wrestler A. All 3 wrestlers hold criteria over everyone else in the tourney. So they all end up with 6 points. What does the computer do then? Or do the coaches have a conversation and decide at that point?
I believe it is last years state tournament placement then overall record. The KHSAA released those criteria this week. If they all placed 4th last year at state and carry the same win percentage then who knows?
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On 3/3/2021 at 8:25 PM, Punisher 61 said:JT King 145, is still getting no love? His only loss is to Stargill. He has beaten Quintana.
Some recent info on JT King:
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29 minutes ago, halfhalfhalf said:Where is the results chief?
I did go back and watch the video on Warren Central's youtube. Final score was 6-2.
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22 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:That is what the rules state, but they lose the points they could have earned for a pin.
I believe up until this year, the first round of Indiana's state tournament no points were awarded. Could use that same format here.
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38 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:Seeding a tournament is all about how you look at it. If you are just worried about separating the better wrestlers its fairly simple. Or even only worried about separating the best two wrestlers its still usually not a problem. But if you are trying to get it right, meaning seeding the top 4, 5, or 6 that is when it gets difficult. I want all the placers to be seeded as close to the final result as possible. That way the 3rd gets a chance to wrestle the 2nd and the 5th gets a chance to wrestle the 4th. To truly determine the better wrestler.
When you get to the post season I believe that every wrestler should be seeded down to the 16th place or whatever. A lot of coaches don't like it because that gives the 1st seed a bye and they worry about team points, instead of getting the best wrestlers onto the next round.
If people are worried about a first round bye for top seed, do it like Indiana does and the top seed wins their next match, they receive advancement points for the bye as well.
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44 minutes ago, Region1observer said:And trushawn beat brown
“Caldwell County shut out Hoptown 61-0: Logan Brown [9-3]”
According to former Coach Dennis Walls, that did not happen.
https://www.yoursportsedge.com/2021/02/08/hoptown-splits-trigg-duals-matches-w-photos/featured/
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3 minutes ago, DrBaker said:Well, my boy Carson Chambliss is undefeated and deserves a number 1 spot in ALL WEIGHTS!!!
More like waterboy
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Top 8 with all Semi-State qualifiers.
Semi-State (Region 1/2) school grade state place record Region 106/108 1 Jordyn Raney Union 7 msc 26-0 1 Win (pin vs Whorton, Campbell, Matt, Brown) 2 Breydan Whorton Larue 9 26-1 2 Win (dec vs Campbell, Hardin) 3 Amari Hardin John Hardin 10 7th 16-3 2 Win (McDonald) 4 JaRi Campbell Christian 10 19-3 1 5 Trushawn Matt Hoptown 10 18-2 1 Win vs Brown 3x 6 Jacob McDonald Taylor County 9 21-3 2 Win (Durbin) 7 Logan Brown Caldwell 8 30-5 1 Win (dec vs Matt) 8 Peyton Durbin Meade County 9 17-6 2 113/115 1 Leland Reeves Taylor County 9 msc/3rd 13-4 2 Loss (Beltran) Win (Beltran, Griffith) 2 Hunter Jenkins Union 8 msc 19-4 1 Win (Pin vs Harrod, Gross, Bailey) 2-1 vs Teutsch 3 Colin Teusch Caldwell 10 6th 32-3 1 Loss (Jenkins 2x) Win (Jenkins, Fulton) 4 David Griffith Meade County 12 15-4 2 Win (vs Beltran, Gross) 5 Maximus Beltran Central Hardin 12 13-5 2 Loss (vs Griffith, Harrod, Bailey) Win (Gross, Reeves) 6 Brock Gross Larue County 9 23-9 2 Loss (Griffith, Beltran) 7 Holden Schneider Hopkinsville 9 14-5 1 Loss (Jenkins) 8 Barrett Fulton Ohio County 8 20-15 1 Loss (Schneider) 120/122 1 Trayce Eckman Union 11 1st 23-0 1 Win (Nichols, Reeves, McKee) 2 Parker McKee McCracken 12 20-4 1 Win (Nichols, Ashur Jones) 3 Timothy Nichols Caldwell 9 32-4 1 Win (Portwood, Leavell) 4 Ryan Portwood North Hardin 12 26-4 2 Win (Metcalf, Beckley, Lattin) 5 Tyler Lattin Meade County 9 18-4 2 Loss (Reeves) 6 Connor Metcalf Larue County 9 20-10 2 Win (Beckley) 7 Daemeion Leavell Christian Co 7 10-4 1 Win (Ashur Jones via Injury) 8 Derrick Beckley Taylor County 9 10-7 2 126/128 1 Braedon Herron North Hardin 10 4th 28-2 2 Win (Frazier, Fowler) 2 Jayden Frazier Tilghman 11 15-2 1 Win (Fowler x2) Loss (Fowler) 3 Gage Fowler Christian 12 2nd 12-3 1 Win (Gerkin, Frazier, Walls) Loss (Frazier x2) 4 Charlie Tucker John Hardin 11 18-3 2 Win (Gerkin) Loss (Herron) 5 Cofy Walls Caldwell 10 25-5 1 (vs Cannon 2-1, vs Ricketts 2-1) 6 David Gerkin Apollo 12 21-7 2 Loss (Walls) Win (Cannon) 7 Lucas Ricketts Union County 7 18-6 1 Loss (Frazier) (vs Walls 2-1) 8 Devavion Armstard Central Hardin 11 8-10 2 Loss (Gerkin) 132/134 1 Thomas Hoppes Larue County 12 2nd 31-0 2 Win (Mayes, Herron, Raines) 2 Eli Peyton Tilghman 12 18-1 1 Win (Mayes, Johnson) 3 Riley Johnson Caldwell 11 7th 32-5 1 (vs Mayes 2-1, Hawthorne 1-1) 4 Glenn Mayes Union 10 14-7 1 Win (Arnold, Hawthorne) 5 Hunter Hawthorne McCracken 9 13-14 1 (vs Arnold 1-1) 6 Jacob Fulkerson Central Hardin 10 15-6 2 Win (Tolson) 7 Mason Raines Meade County 11 11-7 2 Win (Tolson) 8 Caleb Tolson Daviess County 10 19-6 2 138/140 1 Devin Herron North Hardin 11 1st 20-0 2 Win (Grant-Hall, Elliott) 2 Austin Grant-Hall Christian 12 4th 8--0 1 Win (Elliott) 3 Keaton Elliott Calloway 12 5th 30-4 1 Win (Ricketts, James) 4 Levi Stull Meade County 11 21-1 2 Win (Denneman) 5 Gavin Ricketts Union 10 18-7 1 Loss (Denneman) Win (James) 6 Jack James Tilghman 9 6th 15-6 1 Loss (Ricketts) 7 Mason Polston Central Hardin 11 7-6 2 Win (Brown) 8 Westin Brown Larue County 9 6-5 2 145/147 1 Malachi Rider Tilghman 9 6th 13-1 1 Win (Kellett, Craddock) 2 Mason Kellet Christian 10 9-4 1 Win (Stargill) 3 Gabe Fortier Larue County 10 27-3 2 Win (King) 4 Trayton Stargill Taylor County 10 21-6 2 Win (King) 5 JT King Bardstown 12 30-3 2 Win (Rodriguez) 6 Ronald McGee Hopkinsville 13 17-3 1 Win (Clark) 7 Caden Rodriguez Meade County 10 14-5 2 8 Caige Clark Ohio 11 29-13 1 152/154 1 Payne Carr Union 12 2nd 18-1 1 Win (Rider, Ball, forfeit vs Conner) 2 David Conner Paducah 12 5th 24-2 1 Win (Smallwood) 3 Ethan Futrell Calloway 12 27-3 1 (vs Smallwood 1-1) 4 Colton Smallwood McCracken 12 17-4 1 Win (Wilkins) 5 Nick Avery Owensboro 12 17-3 2 Win (Baumgardner) 6 Caleb Baumgardner Central Hardin 11 15-6 2 Win (Ball) 7 Matthew Ball Larue County 10 12-6 2 Win (Avery) 8 Austin Head Bardstown 12 24-5 2 (vs Wilkins 1-1, vs Baumgardner 1-1) 160/162 1 Quinten Cox Union 12 13-2 1 Win (Shaffer, Slayton, Poynter) 2 Seth Slayton Tilghman 12 15-3 1 Win (Newby) 3 Austin Shaffer Larue County 12 2 Win (Springs) 4 Jybari Springs John Hardin 12 2 Win (Sawyer, Monroe) 5 Conner Geise Meade County 11 2 Win (Sawyer, Jarvis) 6 Jacob Newby Christian County 11 7-4 1 Win (Poynter) 7 John Jarvis Central Hardin 12 8-4 2 Win (Monroe) 8 JJ Poynter Henderson Co. 10 12-9 1 170/172 1 Dalton Russelburg Union 12 1st 21-2 1 (vs Walls 1-1) Win (Mooney) 2 Dylan Walls Caldwell 11 8th 35-1 1 Win (Schlei, Baker) 3 Cameron Baker Apollo 12 22-2 2 Loss (Walls) Win (Hills, Mariscal Carter) 4 Christopher Mooney Tilghman 10 7-2 1 Win (Barnes, Schlei) 5 Benicio Mariscal Carter John Hardin 11 12-3 2 Loss (Baker) 6 Caleb Hills Meade County 12 16-7 2 Win (Barnes) 7 Landon Barnes Central Hardin 12 14-6 2 8 Alex Schlei McCracken Co 12 11-14 1 182/184 1 Stephen Little Union 11 1st 23-0 1 Win (Walls) 2 Colin Walls Caldwell 11 8th 29-6 1 Win (Redwine) State Placement 3 Spencer Redwine Tilghman 11 14-5 1 Win (Riggins) (vs Watters 1-1) 4 DJ Riggins Taylor County 10 20-3 2 Win (Riggins, Tolson) 5 Gabriel Ramirez Central Hardin 12 14-3 2 (vs Riggins 1-1) Win (Logalbo) 6 Connor Tolson Daviess County 11 21-3 2 Loss (Riggins) 7 Nick Watters Calloway County 10 19-10 1 (vs Redwine 1-1) 8 Tony Logalbo John Hardin 11 11-8 2 195/197 1 JT "Oscar" Adams Christian 10 7th 13-2 1 Win (Ervin) State Placement 2 Paxton Ervin Union 11 21-3 1 Win (vs Lambert) 3 Conner Lambert Larue County 10 28-3 2 Win (vs Adams, Mooney) 4 Jimmy Mooney Tilghman 9 12-5 1 (vs Bledsoe 2-1) Win (Serra) 5 Timarion Bledsoe Calloway 11 22-10 1 Win (vs James) 6 Marcus James Taylor County 9 18-9 2 (vs Ellis, Serra 2-1) 7 Austin Ellis Meade County 10 13-9 2 Win (vs James) 8 Seth Serra Central Hardin 10 7-8 2 Win (James) 220/222 1 Darius Moore Union 12 2nd 28-1 1 (vs Virzi 1-1) State Placement 2 Uriah Virzi Tilghman 9 5th 28-2 1 3 Thomas Boone Larue County 12 10-0 2 Win (Silva) 4 AJ Harvey Christian 11 6th 16-7 1 Win (Hawkins) State Placement 5 Austin Silva John Hardin 10 15-2 2 6 Clayton Hockman Central Hardin 11 12-11 2 Win (Leonard) 7 Zach Leonard Meade County 11 13-7 2 8 Rance Hawkins Henderson Co 12 15-6 1 HWT 1 Tydarius Kelly Christian 12 4th 13-0 1 Win (Pottle) 2 Andrew Pottle Ohio 12 33-3 1 Win (Mooney, Pike) 3 Mathew Mooney Tilghman 12 13-5 1 (vs Pike 2-1) 4 Che Smith Meade County 11 14-0 2 Win (Moe, Cart) 5 Davis Pike Union 12 14-6 1 Win (Hendricks) 6 Say Moe Daviess 12 17-3 2 Loss (Hendricks) 7 Blaize Cart Apollo 11 18-10 2 Win (Talbert) 8 Levi Talbert North Hardin 12 19-10 2 -
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1 hour ago, grappler-of-old said:Yes. If you started the match and get hurt then it is a loss.
If you were hurt in the previous match and default the next without starting the match then it is not a loss.
What if you were in the semi-finals and won, but during the match an injury occurred. A sprained ankle for example and could not wrestle the finals. Does your opponent receive a head to head victory over you if you have to forfeit the finals match?
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1 hour ago, Ranger123 said:Maybe I missed it, but very surprised no one has mentioned Saul qualifying for NCAAs. Having a very solid season and now gets his shot at the big dance.
Hopefully Ben Barton gets that at large bid to make a return trip as well.
Went 3-2 at the MAC Championships. Lost to #10 in the semi-finals and lost to #7 in the 3rd place match. Glad he was selected.
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28 minutes ago, rjs4470 said:I'm pretty sure they will try to fill. But there may be some cases where they may not even have enough alternates to fill. In hindsight, they could have gone back to 4 regions this year, and a 16 man bracket instead of 5 regions and a 20. Competition wise, there are going to be quite a few kids at state that will be there simply because they weighed in at region.
Middle School Region 3 had 12/15 weight classes where everyone who weighed in made state.
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5 minutes ago, VisionQuest said:Do they fill those empty slots with 5th place finishers from other regions or leave them empty?
If they do, there will be a lot of kids that make it in. Region 3 has 15 spots to fill. Two weight classes only had 1 kid in it.
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7 hours ago, naplesme said:That's because unlike some of the coaches in the region. I update our records every week. Why hide, it will all come out in the end. js.
What weight will Gage Fowler be going?
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As with all things during COVID, we have to be prepared to adapt. With this new ruling from the Governor, I think it’s time the KHSAA adapts in the right direction towards normalcy with the standard protocols and guidelines. These guidelines just so allow for more participation. Do the right thing KHSAA, Julian Tackett, Mike Barren, and board of controls.
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2 hours ago, GentleBeard said:Semi state for region 1 and 2 at 138 is going to be a BANGER!!! Any one of the 8 qualifiers could be on the podium any other year. It’s a bummer SIX of them will be left home.
It’s what the KHSAA wants to do, take away an opportunity from 40+ top ten wrestlers the shot at top 8.
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44 minutes ago, Ranger123 said:Actually surprised there was any response at all
Kind of a (un)fitting quote to use in a signature for Mr. Tackett.
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1 minute ago, The Whizzer(d) said:Where will this be available to watch?
I know the local news station in Union will show their matches on WMSK facebook. Not sure about the other duals going on.
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Fireworks in Large school, not so much in Small school.
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34 minutes ago, GentleBeard said:I saw this in another thread, but wanted to start a new one to gauge some interest as I thought it was a great idea. What if there was a USA wrestling sanctioned event/state tournament comprising of the top 4 kids in each region (32 man bracket)? How interesting would that be to everyone? I have no doubt it would be a first class event run by people who understand and have passion for the sport. Hopefully we can make it happen.
Hopefully the week after state and maybe give an extra pound. Definitely something that would be incredible. There’s going to be 24 kids in each weight class not make it to state. So two weeks between wrestling, someone may gain a pound or two
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This whole situation is just pathetic. The excuses the KHSAA are coming up with make no sense. Just shows their ignorance when it comes to wrestling tournaments, and wrestling in general. Mike Barren and Julian Tackett, you did this. Hope you get all the backlash you deserve and at least give wrestling a chance next year. Please get someone on the BOC that knows wrestling, will stand up for wrestling, and actually have a backbone to take no for an answer when dumb*ss proposals are presented in the future. It’s for the kids.
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Go ahead and give Trinity, St X, or Johnson Central a major point advantage then. Not fair at all to those in the really tough regions. Thanks KHSAA.
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Very well put together. I believe this is a proposal that everyone in the wrestling community should get behind and have an urgency to fight back against the current KHSAA plan. I really hope coaches/AD/superintendents step in and fight for what is right.
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Should let 12 kids into state. The 4 semistate winners get first round bye, and that gives 3rd place kids at semi state the chance to wrestle their way back into discussion. But, it won't happen. I know for a fact Mike "Baron" was proposed an option for state over the phone that allowed 32 man brackets, followed protocol by utilizing 4 different gyms (coaching may or may not have been an issue) and allowed spectators. Second day, the top 8 would have been brought back to finish all in the same gym. Coach Dennis Walls, formerly of Union County, was the one who proposed this idea to Julian Tackett and Mike Barren. They said it was a great idea that could definitely work and in Lexington. What they did was take those four sites and made it into a semi-state and brought on only the top 2 from semi-states.
We have a BOC that only utilizes athletic directors and pushed out all of the acting wrestling coaches, making it easier for the KHSAA to say screw off, we don't care about wrestling and do it their own way. Have athletic directors that don't have a backbone to stick up for their regions wrestling teams. Every other state tournament has ran normally. Football used Kroger Field. We all know dang well that the Sweet Sixteen will use Rupp Arena, and not be forced to semi-states and only bring in teams (same ratio they dropped wrestling by) to the actual state tournament. They should be ashamed of themselves.-
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I went with top 10 to keep it simple. Also went with top 10 teams. Used Rangers latest rankings. "Miss State" is top 10 kids who will not make it to state. There is a big discrepancy between the "semi states". In the team breakdown, "make state" is top 10 kids on given team that are top two in the semi state. Outside qualifiers are kids who are ranked outside of the top ten but top 2 in their given semi state. St. X and Trinity lead the way with 3 kids each ranked outside of the top ten but qualifying for an 8 man state. Eli Mattingly-Neal (#18 @ 126) and Ayden Lehman (#24 @ 132) are some of the big ones that pop out. Lehman did wrestle 126 recently.
Kid that potentially won't qualify:
106: Hardin, Campbell, Raney, Matt
113: Teutsch, McKee, Griffith
120: Lattin, Benner, Stanley
126: Quintana, Tucker, Stull, Isaacs
132: Herron, Ross, Lewis, Nardelli
138: Stull, James, Andreoni, Johnson, Sproles
145: Bowers, Chapman
152: Phan, Grandstaff
160: Ketchen-Carter, Conrad, Hyden
170: Slayton, Baker
182: Riggins, Walls, McWilliams, Haggan
195: Adams, Whitehead, Hatchett
220: Boone, Elliston, Brooksbank, Leicht
285: Mooney, Arthur, SmithSome state champs, runner ups, multi time placers that are getting screwed. Some, it is their senior year. Way to go KHSAA
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All-Time Teams Since 32 Man Brackets
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A post on the Indiana forums got me thinking about how school's all time teams would look. I decided to use the "modern era" of 32 man state brackets as the cutoff. Kept the weight classes lined up, even though some overlap.
Union:
*Still in High School
Champs left off: Jarvis (Rudd) Elam, Trae Blackwell, Aaron Carr, Isaac Ervin, Luke Ervin, Max Ervin, Jackson Oxford, Isaac Thomas, Jake Insko, maybe more?