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    Here is the list that I have

    64 ??? (1st state tourney)

    65 ???

    66 ???

    67 ???

    68 ???

    69 ???

    70 ???

    71 ???

    72 Ken Wright (Bal) 126

    73 Jeff Fitch (Wood) 145

    74 Jeff Fitch (Wood) 155

    75 Steve Olson (Bal) 155

    76 ???

    77 ???

    78 Dave McMillian (East) 185

    79 Todd McAnly (Dan) 138

    80 Larry Gibson (Trin) 155

    81 Robert Ervin (UC) 112/ Robbie Clarkston (Con) 145

    82 Todd King (Fern) 126

    83 Strawn Nutter (Boone) 155

    84 Troy Cole (Con) 145

    85 Eddie Person (Hop) 155

    86 David Richey (Cald) 112

    87 Dominic Black (Hen Cl) 185

    88 David Barnes (Simon) 135

    89 Jarod Trice (Hop) 152

    90 Mike Miglioccio (TC) 152

    91 Dickey Casstleman(Dan) 130

    92 Willie Ennels (Hop) 160

    93 Don Blevins (Fern) 152

    94 Bruce Stepp (Sheldon) Hwt

    95 Miguell Merritt (Hop) 185

    96 Jason Talbott (Old) 119

    97 Joe Carr (Wood) 145

    98 Ian Horn (Wood) 160

    99 Josh Stepp (Sheldon) 152

    00 George King (Union) 171

    01 Isaak Knable (Trin) 140

    02 Isaak Knable (Trin) 145

    03 Scott Cooper (Larue) 140

    04 Jacob Murton (Lawrenc) 125

    05 Kyle Ruschell (Ryle) 119

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    State; The only two on the other side were Weston and Smith.

    Happy; The highest placer that Howard defeated was 5th.

    Howard did however defeat who stepped on the mat in front of him.

    It could be argued that there were 2 upsets in the top half. Mines over Banks, and Ervin over Cooper.

    In my opinion, not taking anything from Howard, is that Smith was the second best in the wt. class. He lost his last match in typical Eastern style, not giving it his all after not reaching his goal. I also think Banks may have been a bit better than Howard. Weston and Cooper are equal with Howard, he however did not wrestle any of these in the state tourney.

    Unfortunately Howard has many doubters, he will hopefully guiet those doubters this year.

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    yeah that would be a good match. I was young whevever i watched Horn wretsle' date=' but i can remember that he was a machine and never stoped moving. I think a good one would be Issac Knable and Brad Cooper[/quote']

    If we are talking exciting matches then you wouldn't want either of them their senior year. I would take the Sophmore Knable and the Junior Cooper.

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    Who Beat them was Larue Co. at the Oldham Co. Super Duals

    I have known Joe and Rusty for going on 20 years now. I have mentioned to them how sneaky they personally are and how cocky their wrestlers are. Joe's reply is typical Joe, Laughing, patting me on the back, and saying in a low voice, "I know". Rusty on the other hand denies it.

    25 years of dominance maybe 15 years of continuous success.

    Woodford had great success in the 70's, however in the 80's they were almost forgotten. They returned to their 70's success in the early 90's, and have continued througout.

    At for other people knowing Woodford Co. out of state, I would give that credit to Joe Carr and the Carr family. The Carr name is a wrestling name, if not for Joe Woodford would have just as much recognition as the others. I on the other hand am asked if I wrestled for Campbell Co. whenever I talk about wrestling in Ohio, to Ohio wrestlers, coaches, and ex-wrestlers in the Columbus, Dayton, and Cleveland area. Lately they have been asking if I wrestled for Ryle. Only on occation do they remember the name of Woodford Co., they do however know there is another good team in Lou/Lex. area.

    As for who I root for, it's not uncommon for me to root for a Woodford Co. wrestler. I root for the wrestlers that have class on and off the mat, and for those who will represent our state with dignity if they continue on past high school. Not all Woodford Co. wrestlers are cocky, just more than on usual teams.

    I know the secret to Woodford's success it's team pride, maybe only Larue Co. can compete with that. I enjoy watching them "run the gauntlet" onto he mat. I enjoy watching the team greet their wrestler after the match win or lose. This type of hype pulls a team together, but in my opinoin they need to do this with humility, much like Larue and Campebel do.

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    I think I will go and polish my 2 title rings also. That would be team title rings at that. OH and by the way we did it without any outside help, ie recruiting, we developed ours from the wee ages on up.

    Spanking some other teams, hmmmm. I do believe WC earned a second place at the Oldham Co. Super Duals.

    As for loyalty. Don't you feel any loyalty to the coach that taught you wrestling for 3 years before you went to WC?

    Go where you want, I personally like Joe and Rusty. I just sometimes don't appreciate how their team acts on the floor.

    Wrestling is more than just winning. It's about respect, dedication, loyalty. The reason wrestling is great is because you can be bitter enemies on the mat, but when it's over can be friends. Comradery, and the respect of other teams is what makes wrestling so great.

    You unfortunatly did not learn most of this. I do however believe there are many who do at WC. Maybe not as many that should though.

    Team titles mean nothing if you don't earn the respect with them, they are just hollow victories.

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    Pioneer pride,

    So true, so true. Non one denies that Joe and Rusty do an excellant job at Woodford. However the wrestlers there have an attitude problem.

    You don't see the same Booing to Larue, Campbell, Sheldon Clark, or any of the other perenial powers in wrestling.

    Kygrappler;

    If you believe that building a tradition is taking from other districts you are sadly mistakin. building a tradition is just that, wrestlers moving up the ranks in the system, not transfering from another system.

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    I think an even better match would be Ian Horn Vs Jacob Murton.

    I would think Joe Carr, but he was not as active a wrestler as Ian, so the match would not be as exciting.

    The clash of the titans would be Berrow Hwt from Central Hardin Vs Dill Hwt from North Hardin. Both of these guys were beasts, there may not have been much wrestling though. Would love to see these two clash though.

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    Holmes wrestlers always seems to start slow and peak for regionals and state. The NKAC meet is this weekend. It seems that Holmes always does poorly at NKAC.

    From what I have heard from the kids at Holmes they are having a rough time of it this year. No-one seems to be taking it very seriously. They tell me many of the wrestlers on the team are missing practice, Golsby missed over a week of practice and doesn't push himself in practice. I've been told the coach may not return next year, because of these reasons.

    Anyone know if there is any truth in this?

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    I know for a fact that 3 of them could have wrestled 215 on their teams but choose HWt because they could win more matches. All three of them made it to the semi-finals, one of them made it to the finals.

    Many, many wresters undetstand that they will not become a state champ. Many have more realistic goals of being a state placer. Most good coaches goal is to make each wrestler the best they can be. Sometimes that just means being a 500 wrestler.

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    Grappler of Old' date=' you know our state champ weighs 275? So did the runner up, so actually I think it's the heavier guys normally win if they have a bit of technique and balance.[/quote']

    I'm not disputing that penguin, I know that the last 5 or so years the state champ has been over 250. What I am saying is that there have been sevearal Hwts in the last few years that have been successful even though they are very light.

    They chose Hwt, not because there was a 215 on their team they could not defeat, but because they could handle the 250+ wrestlers easier.

    A couple of examples.

    2005

    Keith Lageman Con 3rd (I believe he was around 240)

    Andrew Domico Sk (I believe was around 220)

    2004

    Nathan Pulliam SO 5th (I don't remember him being all that big)

    2003

    Nathan Pulliam SO 4th (same as above maybe even lighter)

    Daniel Blevins Hol 6th (I beilieve was about 215-220)

    2002

    Wes Duke Trin 3rd (I don't remember him being very big)

    Andre Bradford East. 6th (I'm pretty sure he wasn't much over 230)

    Craig Carter Fair 7th (I don't remember him being much over 230 either)

    2001

    Dan Olberding Dix 3rd (Around 230)

    2000

    Dan Olberding Dix 2nd (Even smaller than 2001)

    I'm sure I missed a few or some of these were heavier than I remember, but the point is that 40-50 lbs at hwt is not like 40-50 lbs at 140.

    I do however think there should be a remodeling of the classes and have a couple more heavier classes.

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    I personally dont see anyone of them at 145 giving austin cooper or wolfsier alot of trouble at 152 their is stiff competition all around the middle weights this year. I predict out of the 145 to be 1. wilson' date=' 2.aylor, 3.Banks, 4. Ervin, 5 courtney.[/quote']

    The rumer mill from the wrestlers are that Aylor will be returning to 140 this year. However if Aylor is at 145 I see no way that Wilson will be able to defeat Aylor. I would have to put them as this

    1. Aylor

    2. Banks

    3. Courtney

    4. Wilson

    5. Ervin

    6. Ross

    7. Cooper J.

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    anyone that is in charge of these kind of things?

    The National Federation of state High School Associations is in charge of Wt classes. They survey the states and wrestling teams to try and find the best wt. classes that are feesable.

    I believe the web site is WWW.nfhs.org

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    The powers that be have already addressed this. In the 80's the wt. classes were 167, 185, Hwt (250 maximum)

    The 90's the classes changed to 171,189,Hwt (275 maximum)

    mid 90's they added the 215 wt class.

    The problem is that if you add more wt classes at top then smaller teams will have more problems filling a team. Many already believe that 14 wt. classes are too many.

    I am one that believes that the classes need to be changes. We don't need 5 wt. classes between 125-145. I would be all for a wt. class at the top something like this. 175, 190, 210, 230, Hwt (Ulimited or 300)

    However I think you will find out that the better Hwt's weigh about 230 or less. They also enjoy wrestling those that weigh 275, they are slower and can't move well.

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    I'm guessing Murton must be going 140 because 145 looks to be a killer wt. class.

    Harrison Courney (Woodford)

    Patrick Banks (Larue)

    Ryan Ross (Harrison)

    Brian Wilson (Campbell)

    Josh Cooper (Simon Kenton)

    Not sure who will win out of this group. I however think Courney still makes to many mistakes.

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    Im sorry but that last statment was acinine doesnt matter if he was beating him' date=' the fact is he did beat him. No matter how it happened he got beat and can get beat again in the same way by the same kid.[/quote']

    Winning by an injury default in not beating an opponent. That is just getting the "W", not defeating the wrestler.