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Yeah I knew I had that screwed up somewhere. (Fixed it)

I am sure I am not one of those that "know college wrestling" but starting out slow with a new program is not a bad choice. Get a winning tradition so that kids will want to come to your school then move up as you get better. Gradual improvement is not a bad thing. I applaud anyone that can get wins, no matter what level. But who am I.

The easy one is the Ervins from Union Gary (3rd), Tim (3rd, 1st), Robert ( 3rd, 1st, 1st) and Brad ( 1st, 2nd, 3rd) Luke (5th, 7th, 1st), Gabe (7th) , (Gary's sons) Max (4th,1st), Mitch (6th, 6th, 1st, 1st) Brock (5X 1st) (Tim's sons) Isaac (3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 1st), Caleb (2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st) Saul (3rd, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st) Matthias (6th, 1st, 1st, 1st) Micah (7th, 3rd, 1st, 1st,) (Robert's sons) Coopers from Simon Kenton Craig (3rd, 1st), Brad (2nd, 1st, 1st,1st) , Kevin (3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st), Neil (5th, 2nd, 1st) Cousins Josh (3rd, 7th, 7th, 2nd) Austin (8th, 3rd, 1st), Kyle (1st) Merritt's, Stepp's, Jude's Walls' (I don't know who is brother or cousin) I'm sure there may be others that I have missed.

Here are some more stats comparing Semi State 1 and 2 Semi State 1 won 214 matches Semi State 2 won 206 matches. The most dominating Semi State weight class was at 113 Where Semi State 2 won 21 matches to Semi State 2 winning 9 matches. Here is where each Semi State faired in weight classes. SS1 157-- 19 to 11 190-- 19 to 11 150--18 to 12 165-- 18 to 12 175-- 18 to 12 138-- 16 to 14 SS2 113-- 21 to 9 126-- 20 to 10 106-- 16 to 14 132-- 16 to 14 Hwt-- 16 to 14 Tied 120-- 15 to 15 144-- 15 to 15 215-- 15 to 15 Maybe if I get time I will compare regions. Yes I know I am a nerd.

Thank you. I saw it from the opposite direction. This angle does not really show just how much of an arch Charlie had on this throw. He arched so far he was facing the mat before they hit.

Now c'mon I may not use them but I do have a fb. lol

Best throw of the tournament that I saw was Charlie McKune in his 3rd place match against Ricketts. Does anyone have a video or picture of that throw?

Yep that was a typo I fixed it.

This is reminiscent of the good ole days when Hop-town and Christian were dominating in the West with Caldwell and Union not far behind.

Time to change gears a little bit. Here are the stats on State. Semi Stat in Order Placers----------------Finalists--------------Champs--------------Team points SS1----56 SS1----17 SS1----11 SS2----799 SS2----56 SS2----11 SS2----3 SS1----773 Region in order Placers---------------Finalists----------Champs-------Team Points R1----22 R1----8 R1----6 R1----392 R5----21 R3----6 R3----3 R5----278 R3----18 R4----4 R2----2 R3----266 R6----14 R5----3 R5----2 R6----229.5 R7----13 R2----2 R7----1 R7----159.5 R4----9 R7----2 R4----0 R8----131 R8----8 R8----2 R6----0 R4----120.5 R2----7 R4----1 R8----0 R2----115

I partially agree with this. However if constant transfers occur then there is no competition for the few schools getting all the transfers and programs will cease to exist. I like the idea of one transfer with no questions asked. That will keep some from multiple transfers, and make them think hard about the 1st transfer.

I for one believe the call at HWT this year was correct call. Not trying to bring up old grudges, but the foot being pinned to the but was argumentative because the foot had been held there for more like 15 seconds. It its called in the 1st 5 seconds there would have been time left on the clock. When called with 3 seconds left it makes it impossible to score where 13 seconds at least gives a small chance. Two wrongs don't make a right. Now if claimed not seen at first. It should have been known that it was not put there in the 10 seconds prior to the call therefore it had to be there for a long time. Now I don't remember if you were the one officiating that match and I have never had a problem with any of the calls that you have made on matches I have been involved with. Everyone makes a mistake but when one is made criticism should be expected.

Yes, hey i'm an old fart so the mind gets mixed up. I know the circumstances, just using them as a good example for not complaining.

There was no complaint when Mark Hall came here, or Nathan and Trevor Boston came here, or David Carr, or Jacob and Jarius Murton. These just popped to the top of my head, I'm sure there are more.

I looked it up Nate Sawyer (Fern Creek)

Just playing devil's advocate here? Was the bottom wrestler completely off his base? He is on his side not his belly as pictured above?

I was watching that in particular match and was rooting for the MS kid. I and the person next to me both stated that if he didn't do anything offensive after going out of bounds he was going to be called for stalling. I saw the underhooks in and him being pushed and knew the call was coming. He didn't clamp down on the underhooks, and it didn't seem that he was trying to slide out of the hooks. I wanted the overtime but understood the call, I think the call should have come when he went out of bounds prior to the call, which I don't believe would have changed the outcome. I absolutely hate when these type of calls decide a match, but there has to be 6 minutes of aggression, if not the call can come at any time. No two officials will call it exactly the same. As I always told GOO Jr. push the match so the official can't make the call and you have no control over it.

Wow I was thinking just the opposite, this makes my 42nd state tournament attended (3 as a wrestler, 4 as a spectator and 35 as a coach). I thought this was one of the best officiated state tournament that I have been to. Stalling is always difficult to call, but it seemed universal for all officials this weekend. Calling stalling in the last 10 seconds of a finals match stinks but when you back up for 10-20 seconds its the call you get. Remember this would not be the 1st stall call so this wrestler was stalling earlier in the match also. As for the assistant ref. His job is to help the head official make to correct call. That is what we all want is the correct call made. If the head official changes the call then good, it was probably a close call where he did not have the exact angle to see the action. Therefore he takes the assistant officials re-adjustment. Good for them. The particular call you are referring to where the book was taken out. I also told the person next to me, "He is taking the book out because there is a picture in the book". When they didn't change the call, I thought Hmm. They saw something that I couldn't see way up here in the bleachers. Now for the coach: Wow was he severely inappropriate, running into the circle, not signaling the official that he wanted a conference at the table, then yelling the entire time. Then yelling "That is a takedown" when the final takedown was gotten. The official was extremely patient with this coach. I am certain that if one particular official was officiating that match the coach would have been removed. Just to make things clear. ****These ore the opinions of GOO nothing more and nothing less. You can take them or leave them, in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter. ***

I agree the best atmosphere ever. However I take offense to the old timer statement. I remember both wrestling and coaching at Atherton High school before The Dungeon

Oops sorry I was typing in a parking lot. LOL I just looked it up OHSAA (Ohio) projected spending 20 million this year.

And just how far do you think that 3.2 million gets them?

High school follows National Federation Rules. The rules for high school is a 45 minute wait between matches with a maximum of 5 matches during the season and 6 matches in the post season (forfeits do not count as a match) Middle School is not under KHSAA rules. They follow USA wrestling rules.

KHSAA buys the 112 medals (1st thru 8th in each wt. class), team trophies (1 thru 4 I believe), most outstanding wrestler and most pins award. KWCA (Ky Wrestling Coaches Association) buys the small school team trophies (1st and 2nd), coach of the year and Official of the year, and Coaches Hall of Fame KWOA (Ky Wrestling Officials Association) gives coach of the year and Officials Hall of Fame.

Track wrestling keeps a time of when the last match ended. It will not allow the next match to start until the 45 minutes has elapsed. When the whistle blew on his last match the time begins, it may not have seemed like 45 minutes but I would almost guarantee it was. The 45 minutes is from end of last match to beginning of next match.

KHSAA also owns the trademark for "Sweet 16". Which is licensed to the NCAA. That is more income they receive for basketball.