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C'mon, why the down vote on my picks?

By the rankings 9 of 14 classes can be 1 vs 2 matchups in the finals.

If Johns was on the same side as Berk, then the Jenkins would have an easy path to the finals. Or if Jenkins was on the same side as Berk, then Johns would. It happens in most weight classes.

I’m sure Union doesn’t care he’s a major or better than anyone in the region at the weight.

I don't mean to be critical, BUT..... I cannot understand why all regions have different hierarchies of seeding criteria. I also cannot understand why all regions do not release brackets simultaneously. Both circumstances have the potential of drastically effecting the integrity of the competitions. Both can be correct pretty easily as well.

Agree, your going to end up with good quarter finals matches and watered down finals. I’m always good with coaches fighting for their kids, but common sense should always play a major factor.

We used to argue and cuss and spit and fight on this site back in the day and I am very much here for getting back to that.

I haven’t heard of Indiana or Ohio or even Tennessee having same issues and I may be wrong but haven’t heard directly that they have. I have never liked the different classes but I assume that is because of volume. All I know is I want to be able to enjoy best wrestling possible and I may be greedy about it but would prefer in the finals. The way to do it is a way I have no clear idea. I also would love if Kentucky cared more about the sport to make state a bigger spectacle like other states.

When can we expect to see the Famous Ranger Report ??

I like the random draw for the excitement, but it does sting when a kid you're rooting for (or your own) deserves better. For weights where I have no skin in the game, I love it. I just don't see how it can be done because the seeding/rankings are so subjective. I liked semi-state for the simple fact that it seeded the state tourney for you.

I want to laugh every time you pick 90% of Union even as a joke but I cant because It isn't that unrealistic lol

106 - Brinkman - Corbett. No dark horse from top or bottom side. 113 - Vowels - Wells. No dark horse from top or bottom side. 120 - Delos Santos - Davis. Dark horse on top half is Wasson, bottom half none. 126 - Cornwell - Blevins. No dark horse from top or bottom side. 132 - Raney - McCloskey. No dark horse from top or bottom side. 138 - Evans - Raney. No dark horse from top or bottom side. 144 - Roberts - George. No dark horse up top, Tj on bottom. 150 - Birk - Johns. No dark horse up top, Jenkins on bottom. 157 - Trumble - Shaddix. No dark horse up top, Dowdy on bottom. 165 - Brown - Matney. No dark horse up top, Herbst on bottom. 175 - Ricketts - McCourt. No dark horse from top or bottom side. 190 - Wilson - Steiber. No dark horse from top or bottom side. 215 - M. James - Hyden. J. James as dark horse on top, Allen on bottom. 285 - Cummings - Roth.

106 Brinkman vs. Braxton 113 Vowels vs. Wells 120 Delos Santos vs. Valera 126 Clifford vs Nance 132 Raney vs. Mcloskey 138 Evans vs. Raney 144 Roberts vs. Dennis 150 Smith vs. Johns 157 Trumble vs. Leader 165 Miller vs. Matney 175 Ricketts vs. McCoart 190 Wilson vs. Davis 215 Marcus James vs. Hyden Hwt Roth vs. McClure

... until the "SEED THE STATE TOURNAMENT!!!" starts.

Gist from Valley lost today,he actually stood up in the match with his opponent on his back (Joe Lampe) and just jumped up in the air and fell backwards and landed on him. No DQ. Then he bit him and left a clear mark which Lampe showed the crowd. Then as the match ended and Lampe went to shake his hand he refused and left the mat cursing and slinging the n word. Class act.

This isn't a knock towards any kids as their schedule is their schedule, but I feel like teams like Ryle, Simon Kenton, Union County, etc. would suffer because their schedule is more difficult than some teams who are strictly wrestling tournaments in Lexington all year beating the same kids over and over. "Body of work" or "strength of schedule" could be taken into account, but teams will argue the difficulty is subjective.

I say leave the seeding how It is for state and maybe even regions. I help out at a HS in Iowa now and our 144 is very good. At districts this weekend he made the finals vs. the kid who was currently ranked number 1 who was a lock at the 1 seed for state UNLESS he lost. Instead of wrestling the match the number 1 kid in Iowa MFF the match. State is now here and the Kid that MFF is now the 1 seed while the kid he would have had in the finals is the 2 seed and faces the returning champ in the semis who is a 3 and his only loss is to the 2 seed. If the number 1 kid in Iowa is willing to MFF out in the finals of district to avoid a loss imagine random Kentucky kids doing the same to avoid certain losses for seeding. This doesn't just mess with regions. This would effect the entire season.

Yeah, he would've been split with George regardless, but I'm not so sure that matters much in his case. With random draw, it's possible he could've had Kaygen in the Quarters, TJ in the semis (or in the other order), then George in the finals. That's a tough route, but he still has the possibility of wrestling Jenkins and Johns before the finals at 150 too. Knowing this, I'm gonna assume he just feels better at 150.

I love Landon but he just took a loss to George like 2 weeks ago 4-3. Raney will pin or tech through without a lick of struggle. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just delusional.

I agree with this. But it was said he was avoiding George so he was going up. But to me 150 is the harder route now. Especially considering the control he could have had over the draw at state by being in the same region as George.

That was my thought exactly. Something else that is interesting to me when people will say that Ren is "running" from George, but when Jenkins does It he is "chasing" Johns lol.

Seeding is done to get to the best 4 for state. If the best 2 wrestle in the semis, then the loser goes into the consis and knocks people out. A couple of deserving kids go home and weaker kids skip on through.

Region 5 has to be 126 with Smith,Blevins and Cornwell, thats gonna be fun with a possible rematch at State !!

Seeding should always be an attempt to predict the semi finals. Lazy and stupid to use win percentage. I can understand why coaches are liberal about inputting results on track.

I'm not saying they are getting docked unless you give It to someone based on being in a competitive bracket, In theory take away Braxton and 106 is just as competitive as 144 just without accolades lol. People keep saying toughest bracket because there is a little bit of title contention at 144. Raneys would tech pin through 144 so what are people basing toughest bracket off of? Toughest bracket to win is the one with a twin in It.