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    On 2/3/2022 at 9:06 PM, Ranger123 said:

    I say 132.  Almost as deep as 138, but you have the absolute hammers at the top.  I also think 285 is pretty wide open as far as who finishes on the podium.

    I think 132 has the best possible finals match with Thomas vs Thorton. We should see it 3 weeks in a row. Their only match this season was basically a coin flip with Thomas winning in sv 1-0. 

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    1 hour ago, DrBaker said:

    1. Stephen Little

    2. Jordyn Raney

    3. Jayden Raney

    4. Cole Thomas

    5. Devon Herron 

    It's hard to argue these 5. Little and the Raney's have shown nationally that they are among the best in the country as well as Thomas. I'd throw Noah Duke and Brayden Giannone in the discussion.

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    It seems as though this argument comes up every season, at least 2 to 300 times. Someone is upset over where someone is "ranked". This is a very comprehensive list of 350 wrestlers, who's record is on Trackwrestling. I, for one, do not have the time or energy to do what Ranger does on, basically, a week to week basis. 

    Again, this is not an official ranking. If you don't like these rankings, pay for a track membership, and put all the kids in KY in a seeded tournament. Or buy a rankwrestlers.com membership. When the tournaments are seeded, more often than not, they are seeded by Track. But, this gives us as parents and fans a chance to discuss and debate where certain kids should be ranked. I personally feel like my son is one the best 2 in the state at his weight. He hasn't performed like that, so he's ranked lower. If you have a legitimate argument, I've seen Ranger listen and even explain why he put one kid higher than another. Name calling or claiming bias just makes you look petty, and is never a good way to win an argument. 

    In my opinion there are 6 or 7 weight classes where there are clear favorites to win it all. The rest are up for grabs. Thank you, Ranger for doing this, even though you have plenty of College wrestling to follow. 

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    On 12/31/2021 at 4:40 PM, WVhighlander said:

    06-Raney (Union) 

    113-Raney (Union) 

    120-Whorton larue

    126-Williams JC

    132-Thomas (RYLE)

    138- Cain JC

     144- Goss (JC)

    150- Rider (Tilghman) 

    157 Herron NH

    165-Kinley MC

    175-Duke ( Ryle) 

    190- Little (Union) 

    215- wide open  maybe Virzi, fleek if he is heavy enough.  McCoy from JC and Galear from Woodford county had a Great match.  

     hwt - Smith (Martin

    Virzi is the clear favorite at 215. The only one in the rankings to beat him is Elliston 2 years ago. After that, it's wide open.

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    On 12/29/2021 at 10:40 PM, Chris Duke said:

    Ryle hasn't had a chance to look great yet.  We have 3 state placers with 8, 9, and 13 losses.  Every kid on the team has at least 1 loss.  Brutal start to the season.

    You have wrestled, objectively, the toughest schedule in the state. As they say, "iron sharpens iron." As far as Noah goes, he dominated 2 weight classes up at NKAC and just about every other tournament you've attended. Hell, I was proud of my son for not getting pinned  by him!

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    So, then it it is possible. Who do we contact? Who is our voice? What do the possible facilities need? How do we go about doing these things? How do we make our championship something that makes other athletes want to wrestle? These are the questions that need to be asked and answered, then acted upon. We can bicker back and forth all day long on this forum, but until someone makes the moves/calls/emails that need to be made, nothing is going to change. I wish that I had the pull or contacts to do these things. I'm just a parent that absolutely loves the sport and what it has done for my boys, and I respect anyone who has influenced them, or any other kid that has put on the headgear. 

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    I believe most programs showed their "flexibility" this season. With teams canceling events due to covid restrictions, the almost universally maligned post season format shoved down our throats and getting matches 1 day in advance to get the kids mat time, the coaches deserve an "atta boy" for their flexibility. I think it can be done at the bigger venues, in spite of D1 basketball being played there. Like the sport itself, it's all about effort. Do we take the easy way out and say, "Thank you, sir. May I have another?" Or, do we work together to make it work? 

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    How about Memorial Coliseum? I realize it's more than just saying, "let's have it here", but this is the most centrally located and it's close to the KHSAA offices. If it’s a question of money to procure a venue, can we as a wrestling community raise the money through sponsors or private donations? Going back to a high school gym or keeping the format of this year needs to be categorically squashed. We aren't on a level comparable to Indiana or Ohio, but if the goal is to grow the sport, we have to collectively work to make it happen. 

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    Good Lord! I pray that this madness is over with as we roll into next year's season. This all feels like a bad dream. I, for one, am looking forward to off-season tournaments that do not have the restrictions or "oversight" of the KHSAA or the BOE looming in the background. The kids are the ones that suffer the most in all of this, and they deserve our (adults) best effort to ease that suffering. Too many athletes are missing that once in a lifetime experience of high school "glory." For some, it may be that State Championship, while others may want to qualify for the tournament or just compete week to week. Maybe one day we'll look back at this year and laugh at the craziness and it will be a footnote in one of GOO's lists. I hope that's the case, but some of these young men will have a bitter taste from it all.

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    We can all agree that the past year has been challenging, to say the least. Kids doing work online, parents trying to help them with their work, teachers struggling to teach a curriculum to a bunch of faces/avatars on a screen and coaches of all sports stressing about the limits put on them have all made this a difficult time. Academically speaking, most kids do not have the tools to do what's being asked of them. Sure, there are some students that will always excel, but those are the top 2-5%. The rest need the guidance of the teachers and parents to understand the subject matter. We also have asked the teachers to do something that they were not trained to do. When they were student-teaching, they did so in a classroom setting. Our administration decided to keep the curriculum the same as usual and expected the staff to implement it. There are plenty of online education programs with the tools necessary for student success. Many kids in the state, from all grades, have suffered from this lack of planning. This bill is needed for this reason alone. 

    Athletically, I personally noticed a lack of motivation in some kids. The constant dual/tri/quad meets took the individual motivation of "getting the gold" or standing on top the podium (that apparently, we're not allowed to have) away. It was great for team unity and bonding, but individual success doesn't always translate to team success. The ridiculous semi-state format with no wrestle-back, crazy seeding and limited attendance made the 1st and 2nd rounds of "State" the blood round. Many of these athletes were denied a true state tournament experience, especially seniors that qualified for the 1st time. We have some potential state placers ( I can think of three from one semi-state in one weight class) sitting at home this week due to that format. Coaches had to come up with events at the last minute due to cancellations or Covid restrictions. They also had to structure practice time, transportation, ticket allotment and/or streaming options to keep the program within the guidelines set by the all-knowing KHSAA.

    As a parent, I wish that my father could have watched his grand-son in person, at least once, this season. I want that "state" experience for my son and his brothers that qualified for the 1st time. I also want them to have a normal school day. The interaction between students with other students as well as teachers and administrators is vital in the development of all children. The faceless system that they've been operating under this past year is not cultivating that development.

    To answer your question, Chris, about 5-10% of the kids that I have asked said that they were seriously considering it. I selfishly want my son to do it, because he is our youngest of four children and I really am going to miss watching him compete and spending time in the stands with his teammates' families. But, I'm leaving it up to him.

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    16 minutes ago, rjs4470 said:

    For the regions 5/6 semi state, I wouldn't call the seeding terrible. Only two weight classes at first glance seem off, one of which (220) is explained here. 138 with the 3rd place finisher in region 6 getting the one seems off, but might have the same type of explanation as 220. TKC might have a pretty good argument for the 1 seed, but at least the top two guys are on opposite sides. I haven't looked at the other semi states, and frankly with the lack of travel and tournaments, I don't know enough to legitimately comment. There will always be complaints about seeding, just like there were complaints about the random draw. I'd say at least in the 5/6 semi state, the seeding overall, worked out better than a random draw. I also kind of like the fact that the seeding method takes into consideration the whole body of work, rather than someone catching lightning in a bottle during the region tournament.

    The seeding process isn't really the big issue. Yes, some of the semi-state bracket seeds are jacked up, but the problem is that many wrestlers that would meet in the quarterfinals in a 32 man bracket are going to be eliminated. The 220 in the 5/6 bracket is just one of many examples of a bad system across the state. Going forward, I hope that the KHSAA doesn't see this as a money making opportunity and stick with it. It should always be about the kids and giving them a fair opportunity to succeed. 

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    7 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:

    Well I hate to say it but "I told you so".  Seeding the state/ Semi state is not a good idea.  What one person believes is the correct seed two others will disagree.  

    At least with a random draw at state the region champs are separated until the quarters then all hell breaks loose.  Seeding can throw that all in the crapper. 

    220 at semi state 3 (region 5 and 6) a kid who got third in region 6 got the 1st seed. Why even bother wrestling the placement round at region. 

    I see 5 (Leicht, Brooksbank, Savage, Orneals, Elliston) kids that, in a normal year, should place at State. Unfortunately, only 2 will move on to the Championship matches.