Coach Livingston

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  1. 13 hours ago, Bluecollar103 said:

    So we have two kids that agreed to hit there knees and give thanks for what ever they choose to and believe in and it’s grandstanding? Not in my eyes and I don’t have a dog in the fight. I have my spiritual belief and don’t hold someone else’s belief against them. This was two kids that put in a lot of work and left it all on the mat. My hats off to both and I wish I had that when I was in high school. 

    Nobody is holding anything against them. The argument was made that if these two were Muslim, for example, what would have been the crowds general reaction especially given the rituals that occurred during a Muslim prayer.


  2. On 2/27/2022 at 7:13 PM, tiltfor3 said:

    I like both of these kids because they're wrestlers. Honestly, how would you all feel if a couple Muslims or Rastafarians practiced their religion in that venue at that time? I'm calling it grandstanding.

    I would disagree on the grandstanding given it that they’re kids. But I absolutely would agree that the overall gym’s reaction would have been EXTREMELY different if two Muslim wrestlers stopped the match and began their prayer ritual. I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if those two Muslim wrestlers were boo’d and some in the stands started chanting USA. After all, Kentucky is predominantly Trump supporters in most rural counties and we all know how he feels about Muslims.

    And don’t come at me with that “keep politics out of sports” whining…

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  3. 1 hour ago, CoachC said:

    Here are the bylaws relevant to this discussion.
    They have not changed.

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    I don’t think anybody said that it was illegal to have a 15 year old compete. It’s clear that they are permitted to wrestle middle school level in Kentucky. The difference maker in everyone’s argument is the “held back” factor. Like I said, to each; their own…but holding a kid back that’s literally about to be eligible to get his/her drivers license this year all while potentially wrestling a 4th grader at a KFWC sanctioned event is….well, weird. 
     

    just my two pennies 
     

     

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  4. LOL…Here’s some perspective on why soon to be 16 year olds wrestling middle school is never OK… This year in a wrestling dual/tournament in Kentucky you can literally and potentially have a kid born in 2006 wrestling a kid born in 2012 or 2013 (4th grader)… Let that sink in from a safety and common sense perspective and please correct me if I’m wrong about the potential age difference. 
     

    To each, their own…I reckon.

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  5. 11 minutes ago, rjs4470 said:

    The lack of middle school events and therefore information available on Trackwrestling make doing rankings at this level at best, extremely difficult. You could maybe get some info off the kids that are wrestling a lot at the high school level, but that would be far from comprehensive. In years past there were always nice sized tournaments throughout the state every weekend that featured big matchups. Those events just aren't happening now. I think MS rankings are fun, but I just don't see how anyone could put together anything this year.

    Agreed. Fun for sure, especially bragging on our kids to coworkers, family, etc. Maybe at the next Kentucky Folkstyle Wrestling Committee meeting someone could make a motion that there be a mandatory database where all youth wrestling results our housed? Just thinking out loud here…


  6. 9 minutes ago, BeastMode23 said:

    Thanks for the info I just went from being a father to asking about rankings to being a pro ranker who knows maybe I can go for pro coach next season again thanks for the info 

    You’re welcome! I’m all about efficiency & problem solving. For example: It was easier to write “pro-ranker” than it was to write “person(s) who are in favor of a level of measurement that shows which wrestler is better than the other wrestler based on their previous wins and losses.”…

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  7. 18 minutes ago, BeastMode23 said:

    Yes sir they do. I understand what he said but that don’t mean everyone feels the same way or is doing there kid the same way. That’s why I never replied to his first comment an if I had better knowledge on the MS kids I would love to help someone but I don’t see many MS kids until state 

    Here’s another suggestion for the pro-rankers: Contact the governing body of Kentucky Middle School wrestling and see if their officers are willing to put in the effort to make rankings. After all, the problem appears to be lack of “finding information” on performances. Right? Well, our governing body would be a place to start. 


  8. 19 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

    This shows that coaches, kids, and parents do care about rankings. 

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    That’s high school. If you go back to my original post, I said that only high school rankings matter. Again, if you want middle school rankings, then grab the bull by the horns and create them. Me personally, I don’t see a purpose in middle school rankings in Kentucky…in my opinion.


  9. On 1/24/2022 at 5:44 AM, BeastMode23 said:

    Agree 

    Then let’s problem solve folks: How about you two get together and create middle school rankings for Kentucky.
     

    Again, I don’t see any significance to middle school rankings, but to each, their own.

     

    If you want to find some good matches, then start practicing at better wrestling clubs, because the wrestler is only as good as their practice partner……..in my opinion.


  10. In my opinion, Middle school (youth) rankings aren’t that important. I feel it’s more important for the parents (guilty as charged) than the kids. Especially as it pertains to clout. When my kid was ranked as a 4th grader he literally could have cared less. He didn’t brag to his friends at recess about being ranked. He played football at recess like he was playing in the Super Bowl LOL. But me, I told everyone about the ranking. Did it end up mattering in the long run? No. Was there any outcome of middle school rankings that helped performance? No. My then 4th grader went 0-2 at middle school state and 15 minutes after his last match, he was playing bottle flip with kids from a different team.

    My point is this…let the kids be kids. Looking back, I see my mistake in putting the slightest attention to middle school rankings. Rankings do not matter until High School.

    Just my two Pennies.

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  11. On 4/6/2021 at 12:44 AM, claramax600 said:

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    Lol...the OP was from almost 10 years ago...I hope the person found some shoes by now. Thanks for the website though! 


  12. 17 hours ago, ptrsn said:

    A+ Tournaments is hosting Youth (Novice & Open Divisions) & Junior High tournaments every Saturday in Cincinnati at:

    DOHN The Complex, 7617 Reading Road, Cincinnati, OH 45229

    ALL FLYERS ARE ATTACHED BELOW:

    SATURDAY 1/16 TRI-STATE TUSSLE 

    SATURDAY 1/23 QUEEN CITY CLASH

    SATURDAY 1/30 ROSELAWN RUMBLE

    SATURDAY 2/6 READING ROAD RAMPAGE

    SATURDAY 2/20 OHIO HEROES OPEN

    Email or Text/Call Ric Roe at ricroe7408911970@gmail.com or 740-891-1970 if you have any questions.

     

    2021.01.16 Tri-State Tussle.pdf

    2021.01.23 QueenCityClash.pdf

    2021.01.30 RoselawnRumble.pdf

    2021.02.06 ReadingRdRampage.pdf

    2021.02.20 OhioHeroes.pdf

    Ric coming through clutch for the tri-state area!!


  13. 6 hours ago, Heavydad said:

    There is no way to wrestle on a quarter mat..... seriously 4 matches on one mat. That's 16 coaches yelling 4 refs blowing whistles and a ungodly amount of parents screaming. I would not want my Wrestlers on quarter mats.....

    It’s extremely common to wrestle on 1/4 mats for the little kids. They don’t need a half mat nor a full mat to wrestle on. If you travel outside of Kentucky (which you might, not judging), you will see many 1/4 mats for the little ones. This year’s Region 4 Youth Regional Tournament was a great example of using 1/4s. My coaching staff had no complaints. Again, I like the dialogue of making our Kentucky tournaments better, but I’m also going to suggest a solution to the “problem.” 


  14. Overall, outstanding job by the KFWC, our KY coaches, and kids at both MS and Youth tournaments. I especially enjoyed the coach’s lounge with constant food and beverages. There was plenty of seating and the security staff was pleasant. I’d have to agree on the larger mat space for the Novice - Middle School Divisions at the Youth tournament. These ages have likely been wrestling middle school Saturday matches throughout the season. As a solution, I would suggest having the pee wee and bantam wrestle on mats divided in quarters, the intermediates wrestle on mats divided in half, and novice/MS divisions on full mats. Again, outstanding job by the KFWC. The MS parade of champions was a great experience for our kids. Thanks!!

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