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    BREAKING: There will be no more adding remote weigh-ins for BGSG unless extenuating circumstances exist. The list as follows:

    Boyd County Schools
    12307 Midland Trail
    Ashland, KY 41102
    Side gym entrance
    Thursday 7/27 8:00pm-9:00pm 

    Derby City Legends
    4300 East Bluelick Rd. Louisville, KY 40229
    Thursday July 27 6:00pm - 8:00pm

    Floyd Central High School
    6575 Old Vincennes Rd, Floyds Knobs, IN 47119
    Time TBD

    GGB Wrestling Club
    4074 West 8th Street Cincinnati, Ohio 45238.
    Friday 7/28 6:00pm-7:30pm

    Good Shepherd Catholic School
    77 Shepherds Way
    Frankfort, KY 40601
    Gym
    Friday 7/28 6-7:30pm 

    Lafayette High School
    401 Reed Ln
    Lexington, KY  40503
    The green building
    Thursday 7/27 5:30pm - 8:00pm

    Oldham County High School
    1150 KY-393, La Grange, KY 40031
    Use door #19 at the rear of entrance 
    Thursday 7/27 8:30am-10:00am

    Southridge High School, 
    1110 S. Main St., Huntingburg, IN 47542
    Use door 31, immediately after entering, turn left and come up stairs. Thursday July 27, 5:00pm-7:00pm

    Wayne County High School
    2 Kenny Davis boulevard
    Monticello, Ky 42633
    Matroom is across road from football field next to tennis courts 
    Thursday July 27, 5:30pm-7:00pm

    Woodford County High School
    180 Frankfort St, Versailles, KY 40383
    Wrestling Room
    Thursday 7/27 6:00pm - 7:30pm

     

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    On 1/21/2023 at 10:00 PM, Coach Matt said:

    Just curious, who has to look into Region realignments? Do us coaches need to vote on this? The last map was updated it looks like 5 years ago. I know Region 4 has 27 teams compared to Region 3 with 11 teams.  And I know Region 4 is adding a few more next year. 

    Hi there…I chair a Regional Realignment Committee (RRC). We began looking into the changes this past fall and we will reconvene once the season is over. We are taking into account several variables, such as teams per region, in order to present a well balanced suggestion to the KFWC this coming spring.

    The RRC is made up of 1 coach from each of the 5 regions in our Commonwealth.

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    3 hours ago, Ranger123 said:

    Should have known this week would come.  As lineups and weight classes are becoming more and more clear, Union County is making a push toward the top of the rankings.  I have a virtual tie at the top between the Braves and Paducah Tilghman.  A small step down has JC, Great Crossing, and Trinity also in a tight race for the last trophy spots.

    I removed a number of names and make a lot of weight adjustments based on results to date.  Everyone should be back on the mat by this weekend with the weight allowance, so we should have a great sense of most of the +2 drops.

    Wrestler(s) of the week go to Gavin Ricketts with the big win over #1 Kiser and Lucas Ricketts with the big win over #2 Krebs. Those huge changes in the rankings have put Union County is a position where they may walk into the post season as the championship favorite.

    Rankings_22_23_0105.pdf

    Ranger, the 106 name is spelled Brycen Gray. Thanks for doing these rankings, by the way! And that’s because I think your statistical accuracy are always fun to look at!

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    3 hours ago, WVhighlander said:

    Was wondering what happened there. He had a close match in the finals of youth. Won by 1. Score was 7-6 or something.  Crazy thing there is you can take a top 10 high school wrestler and get a really competitive match in youth. 

    ……I probably wouldn’t generalize that one match for entire youth state tournament vs KHSAA state tournament…but I get what you’re trying to say. The Williams match appears to have been an exception, but I’m very confident that if you stuck all of the KHSAA ranked middle school kids and stuck them into the brackets at youth state, 100% of the ranked kids would convincingly beat the youth wrestler. You may have some wins by decision but I see falls in less than a minute on most.

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    1 hour ago, Andrew Baldwn said:

    No sir, the map on the by laws page shows corbin in region 4, but i got a call and removed them from the tournament because corbin was moved at the decision of john Carr the Vice President and Mondell Hunter the President.  

     

    Also we have 205 kids but I removed these teams 

    corbin moved by president

    hazard no kids

    ckuwc no kids

    perry no kids

     

    Teams with zero kids entered so far, but have replied to my emails 

    Appalachian Wrestling

    Woodford

    Winchester

    Mustangs

    Mad South

     

    KFWC out here acting like the wild Wild West!!! I just combed through the bylaws and I didn’t see where that kind of authority is permitted.


    But seriously and if this is the case of assigning teams to different regions at last minute at the order of the President/Vice, then what would happen if all the Region 4 bluegrass area teams decided to show up at Elkhorn on Saturday instead of driving all the way to Belfry for regions? I’m just saying…what’s ok for one needs to be ok for others…right? 

    If someone knows the clause that permits such decisions for officers to make, then by all means, throw it out there please. Otherwise, between the email chain and these forum threads, we can use this failure of governance as an opportunity to better our operations. Maybe a training or two from USA wrestling on how to operate a sanctioned committee could help newly installed officers as a requirement. Even if you already run a successful organization, there’s no shame in getting more training so that we can hopefully prevent the type of issues we’re seeing this past couple weeks. After all, we are all lifetime learners and this is me coming to you all with a solution to our problem. My youngest is only 3.75 years away from wrestling in the KFWC and I will gladly do whatever it takes to clean all of this up before he starts.

    Two pennies production.

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    8 minutes ago, Andrew Baldwn said:

    No sir, the map on the by laws page shows corbin in region 4, but i got a call and removed them from the tournament because corbin was moved at the decision of john Carr the Vice President and Mondell Hunter the President.  

     

    Also we have 205 kids but I removed these teams 

    corbin moved by president

    hazard no kids

    ckuwc no kids

    perry no kids

     

    Teams with zero kids entered so far, but have replied to my emails 

    Appalachian Wrestling

    Woodford

    Winchester

    Mustangs

    Mad South

     

    Winchester is getting our kids in now. :)

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    1 hour ago, grappler-of-old said:

    Hmm I am a little confused by this argument.

    I personally did not know what religion either of them were praying to.  I was not sure what exactly they were doing. No hands in a prayer (which would indicate christian), they were sitting down on knee (I thought maybe a jewish ritual)  at one point I thought they were taking a knee in honor or Black lives matter.  

    Maybe this is just my ignorance, but regardless I kept my mouth shut and allowed them to take the few moments they needed to complete whatever they were doing, and I hope that is what most were doing at the tourney. 

    You make an awesome point, my friend. Nobody knew what they were doing or praying to. At that moment and for all we know, they could’ve been praying to Lucifer (Satanism), The Universe (Pantheism), or Inner Peace (Buddhism)…either way, I did what you also did and shut my mouth and let them do whatever it is they were doing. 
     

    I guess it wasn’t validated that is was a Christian prayer until recently. But ultimately, I’m making the argument that if the kids were Muslim and they brought out all of their Islamic materials needed to practice their belief (during or after the match), would the crowd, overall, would have given them the same respect as you and I have the 120 kids? 

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    33 minutes ago, GentleBeard said:

     

    1) I didn't know Darth Vader was such a staunch Muslim apologist.

    2) Pretty interesting that no Muslim has ever wrestled a match during a sunset. Or maybe they find a way around that - just like Ramadan. 

    3) The booing or grumblings in your hypothetical scenario (that has never happened in the history of the world, to my knowledge) has nothing to do with religion, but a  6 minute match being stopped prematurely before a pin, tech, or clock runs out.  Kinda like watching a movie that gets stopped right before the climax for them to share a word from their sponsors. 

    4) The bold and underlined prayers seem to be copied and pasted. Did you have to look them up to educate yourself in an attempt to confirm your bias? 

    5) Breyden is the kind of character every coach should want in their room. I look forward to getting to know him as our paths cross this off season. Kudos to JW for raising a solid young man. 

    1.) LOL…loosely quoted, I reckon.

    2.) In practicality, I absolutely agree with that.

    3.) Are you saying that spectator entertainment is greater than a person’s religious faith & practices?

    4.) LOL…I’m not Muslim, so there’s no cognitive dissonance or biases. And yes, in respect to those who are followers of Islam, I made the effort to make sure I’m spelling their prayer times correctly. After all, I’m not a subject matter expert, just objectively looking at this hypothetical scenario.

    5.) Not once have I said anything negative about the kids and what they did. As a Christian, I thought what they did was absolutely outstanding. That being said, I am using the Muslim practices of prayer as an example because the prayers are so ritualistic as opposed to simply taking a knee, bowing our heads, and saying Amen. 
     

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    10 minutes ago, J.W. said:

    Well within your scenario, the referee would hit them both with stalling as the rules would dictate.  If it were a second stalking call for one or both of them, it would be a point.

     

    Furthermore as I have described I spent more years in Muslim majority countries than probably you have and most of the readers. Worked side by side with many as interpreters.  Have had many discussions back and forth.

    I won't claim to be an expert, but there must be a verse that allows them miss and make up the prayer.  So I would guess they would probably continue the match, and then head straight to a clear direction facing the mecca.

    If a prayer is missed, it is common practice among Muslims to make it up as soon as it is remembered or as soon as they are able to do so. This is known as Qadaa. For example, if one misses the noon prayer because of a work meeting that could not be interrupted, one should pray as soon as the meeting is over.

    I hope that I have enlightened you on the religion that you bring up.

     

    Exactly…so let’s take this scenario and place it in the exact scenario and context as last Saturday…if they missed their prayer time and the match has ended, would the crowd have reacted differently if their coaches immediately brought out their prayer rugs, fresh bowl of water, wrestling shoes taken off, etc.? That’s the question at hand. It doesn’t matter how many time you or I or anybody has been across seas…the question, at hand, is simply would the crowd have likely or not likely acted differently if it was a different religion being practiced….and my objective opinion is they absolutely would have.

    But, what you said about stallings does bring up an interesting conversation/scenario…and if there are any referees that could chime in, please do…What would that truly look like if two people, practicing their religion belief during a match, were potentially disqualified?

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    11 hours ago, Bluecollar103 said:

    I’m pretty sure you live in the same region as me. I don’t agree with any political view most can say because they are all crooked. I believe in ethics, respect, and personality. I bowed my head like most of the arena did on Saturday because that is ky wrestling. We have some bad and ugly but for the most part I think you will agree we all are out for the same goal in mind. That is to help the kids. Black,white,Hispanic purple or blue. I treat them all the same. Does that mean we have the same political views as the parents of these kids. Absolutely not. Everyone get that choice as an American. Us as coaches need to treat the kids the same and make them the best people coming into this crazy world we live in. If that wasn’t my goal I wouldn’t be coaching like I am. This was about faith in something greater than his self. I got this kids back and any other kid that wants to make a bigger point than a state title no matter his religion. We can learn something from everyone if our eyes are open. 

    That’s great that you feel that why. I also bowed my head when they were praying because I’m also a Christian. 
     

    However, if we look it this situation from an objective as opposed to subjective approach, a person can make the argument that if “KY wrestling” is so predominantly Christian faith, then it is not too far fetched to also make the argument that the said predominantly Christian crowd would have reacted differently. 
     

     

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    3 minutes ago, wrestling78 said:

    I don't understand what the argument is. We have freedom of religion for a reason, I think it is awesome that he did this.

    The argument is not about practicing freedom of religion, the argument is about how the kids would’ve been treated if they were a different religion, such as Muslim.

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    11 hours ago, GentleBeard said:

    You really think highly of the wrestling community - the one sport where politics is largely absent.

    You would be correct there would likely be booing if “both wrestlers stopped the match” to do a Muslim prayer. However, these kids are Christians and the match had concluded on its own. 
     

    Note: you’re the one who brought up politics and stretched the situation to its thinnest hypothetical, unrealistic conclusion. 

    Hello my friend…to quote Darth Vader, I find your lack of knowledge about the Muslim faith disturbing, LOL
     

    Muslims, from my understanding, have specific times that they pray throughout each day. That’s why I intentionally stated that they would be “stopping the match” to pray. At the time of the finals last Saturday, this would have fallen on or around the Maghrib (sunset prayer), and Isha (night prayer). Thus, your comment about my hypothetical scenario gives my theory, of how these two hypothetical Muslim wrestlers would have likely been treated by the crowd, much weight and validity. After all, people generally fear what they don’t understand.

    In addition, I also find your lack of knowledge about politics & wrestling also disturbing. If politics was so “largely absent” in wrestling, then why did the IOC try to do away with wrestling in the 2020 Olympics and it took a bipartisan effort from US legislatures (politicians) like Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa), Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), and Tim Walz (D-Minn.) to advocate to the IOC why wrestling should stay? Note: Thinking politics doesn’t exist in your local wrestling team is absolutely naive, my friend. There’s such thing as “playing politics” as well, but I digress.
     

    As much as we like to think there aren’t politics related in wrestling, just ask your local public school team what they have to go through in order to get the school to pay for the team to compete…..those bureaucratic hoops that those coaches jump through are the epitome of politics.

    I hope that I have enlightened all the readers to step outside their comfort zone and learn more about a faith that’s not Christianity.