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17 hours ago, damonluttrell said:The year is wrong on the placer plaque’s says 2022
That's the coaches association foul up right there.
KHSAA gives out the coin sized medals.
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https://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource-content/nfhs-sport-questionnaires/
Let your voice be heard! There are some interesting rules NFHS is considering.
4-Point Nearfall? 3-Point first takedown? College in-bounds rules?
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36 minutes ago, CUTiger184 said:2A is very deep. Several teams are in the running "on paper" for 2nd through 8th in my opinion. Boyle County is tough, they will make some noise this weekend as well.
Wayne, Moore, Harrison is a competitive pod. There should be some good matches to come out of that.
Boyle and Taylor should be a real good dual, I'm picking Taylor to come out of that scrap. But I would not be surprised to see Boyle pull it out.
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Prediction for 2A
1. Johnson Central
2. Paducah Tilghman
3. Taylor County
4. Harrison County
I'm torn with 2-4 because Paducah Tilghman I think has the most talent and where they are good, they're very good, but they do have some holes that could be a problem if Harrison comes out firing. Taylor as the 4 seed finishes 3rd regardless if they get Paducah or Harrison. But if Harrison performs Paducah and Harrison should flip flop.
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Eric Burrell is stepping down at LaRue County.
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Ranger thank you for doing these. It's something that kids and parents look forward to all year.
I know it's beyond dual season, but I have always been curious. What's the algorithm for Duals rankings?
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Before they did away with Districts, Region was set up a lot like how Semi-State was set up last year. Two Districts paired together to create a Region. 4 Regions across the state, with top 4 going to State.
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Region 2 JV Nights
Coaches, Tues. Dec. 7th at North Hardin we will be doing a JV night. This will consist of strictly JV or inexperienced wrestlers. Our goal is to get some spotlight matches for those kids who wouldn’t normally get to experience that.
This will be a JV weigh-in and matches should not count against Varsity records.
We are going to try to match up wrestlers ahead of time so you will not have to bring any kids who will not be getting matches.
I am going to create a Google Sheet with weights and teams interested in coming.
Obviously we will try to match up weights accordingly, but if needed, wrestlers may wrestle another wrestler if the weight class is above or below. Please feel free to reach out to me for any details regarding this.
We will be having another one on Thur. Jan. 13th at LaRue County as well.
weigh-ins, start time, and tickets info should be coming.
Please contact: eric.burrell@larue.kyschools.us
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Looking for an event to send my JV team to something on 12/18.
Doesn't have to be strictly JV. Just looking to get more mat time.
Would possibly hold something, if enough teams were interested.
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Are there any OPEN events on 1/22?
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Competition aside, realignment needs to happen this year. I am not knocking any JCPS/Louisville area school but the sheer number of kids participating has been on a decline for many years.
Since the last realignment the following Jefferson County Schools have folded or haven't fielded teams beyond a handful of wrestlers in recent years: Holy Cross, Iriqouis, PRP, Southern, Atherton, Manual, Eastern, Jeffersontown, Kentucky School for the Blind, Seneca, Shawnee, Western.
Jefferson County should combine to make 1 region and create 2 regions from the Outside Louisville, Owensboro, Bowling Green, Elizabethtown, Bardstown area schools.
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8 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:Not sure I like the 2 semi state scenario? Having 8 qualify from 2 semi states is really no different than having 4 semi states. It will also reduce travel. Think when the far west teams (Pad. Till) have to travel to Lou and vice versa Same for Far Northern Ky schools traveling to far south or East and vice versa. (Johnson Central, Wayne Co) They will require overnight stays.
I truly believe that the almost the same individuals will qualify for a 16 man tourney either way. As long as it is not only 2 qualifying from Each Semi State.
The current regional pairings already require overnight stays for most schools, the majority of Region 2 schools traveling to the nearest Region 1 school (Union) is still about 2.5-3 hours.
Having 2 semi states in a central Location... lets say Owensboro and Lexington cuts down on alot of logistical issues for KHSAA and teams out on the far reaches of the state.
The key is that it needs to be in a central location, and for teams traveling from Region 1 and Region 8 it's gonna be inconvenient wherever you hold it.
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2020 Regional Participation Numbers per trackwrestling
Region 1: 117
Region 2: 133
Region 3: 108
Region 4: 84
Region 5: 119
Region 6: 132
Region 7: 171
Region 8: 140
Total: 1,004
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2021 Regional Participation Numbers per trackwrestling
Region 1: 104
Region 2: 134
Region 3: 74
Region 4: 65 minus Moore
Region 5: 99
Region 6: 132
Region 7: 137
Region 8: 107
Total 852
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They sent an email/text this morning to coaches, Noah Duke won MOW. Very deserving. Good wrestler and very fun to watch.
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Thanks for this Ranger you benefit our sport tremendously.
Gonna miss the announcer tommorrow calling out Kentuckywrestling.com rankings and exciting matches.
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Yesterday the Lafayette kids were dropped from the bracket and seeds were rolled up.
This morning, looks like they were added back and put in at the 8 seed.
Does that make sense to anyone?
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35 minutes ago, JST said:If enough requests are made they will have a really hard time denying. In all honesty I think this effects elementary kids who can't read or families with limited internet rhe most. I personally know quite a few of families who fit in this category. But why not take advantage if you can and are willing. Personally I'm leaving it up to my kid.
I am an elementary school teacher, I totally agree with that assessment. If it is needed then heck yeah give that kid a redo year to catch up. I see the gaps forming and the need to catch up by repeating a year.
But from a logistical standpoint, going from 23 kids per class to 30+ per class especially with the cuts in budgets to almost every school. Keeping all those kids is a hard choice. I don't know the right answer.
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I do know that it's just optional. It's really a local school board decision. I know two of the larger school districts in the state are rumored towards not taking that route.
Logistically, I would believe school districts would see it as a nightmare.
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220 is a mystery as well, I think it should be Virzi, Moore, then Savage.
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12 minutes ago, GooglyMoogly said:No it doesn't. Seeding is for separation. If you use the 1v4, 2v3 model everyone who needs to be separated is. The KHSAA really jacked this one up.
Listen I totally agree, I am not a fan of seeding it like this especially when criteria is super fuzzy. The way it is done at state tournament with regions randomly drawn in and 1v4 and 2v3 works well. We do get those matches where highly ranked kids meet in the quarters which is a bummer.
But for example if a kid from region 2 knows stud A from region 1 is gonna be on a certain side of the bracket then they may forfeit to 3/4 to dodge stud A. Especially when you know whose gonna be in the bracket. Takes the random draw out of the equation. It may be rare, but somewhere it will happen.
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It's great to see some of Kentucky's best and brightest getting to compete on the big stage. It's fun watching these guys wrestle.
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8 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:I know one wrestler who would have forfeited his 3rd place match in region 6 if they did it this way. Because of horrible seeding criteria he got the 4th seed, when he is by far the 2nd best in the region. Got the 2 seed in semi state. (The 3 and 1 from the same region are on the same side) How a 28-1 wrestlers looses the 2 seed to an 18-8 wrestler who he never met is beyond me.)
That's the other side people are not mentioning, the forfeiting in placement matches at regions in order to line up for a better chance at advancement at semi-state. It's lame but it would happen. The seeding criteria for semi-state is not perfect but it does allow some chance and rewards kids for their overall body of work for the season.
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1 minute ago, rjs4470 said:With limited attendance though, is it really a surprise there would be a limit? Every coach that's in the building is another Parent/fan that can't attend. And has been mentioned, how many coaches do you really need, especially when there are on going to be a few mats, instead of 8 or 10?
Granted that attendence is limited and no it isn't a surprise they would limit coaches numbers. Nobody expects anything less from the KHSAA.
Coaches are just as much as a stakeholder in all this as parents/fans. I am not saying one should get in over the other. Will a coach mind paying??? Heck no, as long as he gets to coach his kids. It just stinks they gotta pay for it.
But that's not the point, state wrestling tournament never had a limit on the number coaches who could get in. As long you did the rules clinic and safety course, you were good.
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The ref not making the right call at the right time and forcing overtime is %100 the referee interjecting themselves into the match.
I agree it's unfortunate, but the best referees don't decide the match they enforce the rules irregardless.