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    8 minutes ago, carrir said:

    My opinion would be yes, as long as he isn't your middle school starter. Why should he be punished for being good in the 5th grade? 

    Yeah, we let him compete, that was kind of the consensus we came to is he wasn't our MS starter and 90% of his tournaments were at the youth level. Curious to see how he does at State since everybody in his weight class (92) are 7th & 8th graders, ought to be interesting, will be good experience.

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    20 minutes ago, carrir said:

     

    Just my opinion but I think this is a great way to do this. My son is not a middle school starter but has competed in a couple of middle school tournaments this year so that he can get some different competition than the youth level provides him and to get him ready for that next step. Now his season isn't 60% middle school either at this point.  He is currently between levels, needs a little more than some youth tourneys but not at middle school level just yet. I think for State Duals as long as the wrestlers are not middle school starters and are in 5th grade then they deserve to compete for their team. I also agree with the rule of being top 6 in middle school state would disqualify them from entering Youth State tourney. Just my opinion but I think it is wrong to not allow an Elementary school age child to participate in a Youth Dual because they may be a stronger wrestler than most elementary kids but yet not strong enough for Middle School yet.  

    I agree and that's why I put that statement in there about 5th graders that are Middle School starters. Now, another decision I had struggled with is we have a 5th grader that didn't wrestle Middle School all year but practices with the Middle School and Youth and we entered him in MS Districts for the experience and he placed 2nd qualifying for Region, he goes to Region and places 3rd qualifying for MS State. What do you do in this instance, now obviously if he places top 6 on Saturday he wont compete Sunday but do you let a 5th grader like that compete at the Youth State Dual?

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    29 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

    This may be for a different post but I think it would be good to have a disclaimer for the youth State events only (Duals and Individual), that if a wrestler has participated in 60% or more of his/her matches at MS level tourneys then he/she is ineligible for youth State events.  Understand the top 6 placer at MS State caveat.  There are points of discussion to be made for or against this viewpoint.   To me just a way to level the mat for kids who aren't yet ready for MS level competition and for those who are MS level/caliber.

    Nope, you are spot on....we decided to cut it off at 5th graders BUT I still put a statement in there that they could not be Middle School Starters since many of your lighter, 75-86, 4th and 5th graders are starters for their Middle School. thank you for your input...this is definitely what we are looking for to better this event for the future.

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    41 minutes ago, rdc517 said:

    Understand.  Realize this was first year for event.  Maybe residency requirement area for improvement for next year.  Kind of defeats purpose of it being for Kentucky wrestlers.  Otherwise could have northern KY teams add a few ringers from Cincy to roster, or western KY teams add kids from Illinois, etc. just for the purpose of winning State Duals title.  Not saying those programs would ever do that.

    Yes sir, it was a discussion that was had but in the Youth bylaws residency for competing in KY tournaments is not addressed, only for Youth State, so since he was a paying member of the club it was decided to be allowed this time around. But you make a very good point and that might be something we spell out for next year. Thank you for your input, this is what we are looking for to better this event next year and years after that.

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    30 minutes ago, carrir said:

    Yet he only had one match all day and after seeing that match he would clearly out match any wrestlers in that division. I know the flyer said K-5 so is it possible he was older than the other kids but in the 5th grade? 

    I spoke to the Scott Raney from Maritime inquiring about him and Scott assured me he is a fifth grader just a freak of nature and I have no reason to ever question Scott. Because of his size and age they have a hard time finding him matches through out the year, when you look at him you would ask if he drove himself to the tournament but when you watch him interact with other kids and his teammates he acts like 11 y.o. / 5th grader. He could of definitely been older but I didn't ask teams to provide birth certificates for the event BUT maybe we add that next year just as we did for State this year. 

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    25 minutes ago, SeymourOwlsWrestling said:

    Sounds like your state duals was a big success!  In Indiana the Elementary Team State Duals has become a destination event for clubs.  We didn't start out with 14 teams though.  Kudos to you all.  I think ours started with 8 teams originally.  The duals have become so popular with clubs that we went to a class system this year.  Large schools and small schools.

     

    We had 16 teams represented by large schools and 7 represented by small schools.

    Ours is K-6th (we allowed pre-K this year for the first time/hard to get those 40 lbers).

    We allow 23 kids per team with 17 weight classes.

    All kids must be from the school district of the club with exception to home schooled kids that live in the district or wrestlers that attend a private school but live within the district.

    We essentially have 3 sizes of schools involved in wrestling in Indiana. 1A, 2A, and 3A.

    For the Elem Team State meet we allow 3A schools 2 wildcards (kids outside of the club/district), 2A schools 3 wildcards, and 1A schools 4 wild cards.

    We do a parade of teams before the national anthem.  Some clubs make banners or coat of arms.  Its really cool!

    Personally I have seen tremendous growth in my wrestlers as they get competition early in the season.  My kids have about 20 matches in before the individual season starts.

     

    Glad to hear that you guys had a successful tournament!

    Keep growing wrestling in your state!

    After talking to you about this at the Purler Camp you all hosted it became a goal for this year and continue to grow on...appreciate the information.

     

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    3 hours ago, wrestlef@n said:

    Based on the teams that attended who was the best wrestler for each weight?

    45

    Brennen East of Walton Verona went 5-0 (All by Fall)

    50

    Barret Wells of River City Gold went 5-0

    Xavier Bottoms of River City Green went 5-0

    55

    Shayne Stilts of MTS (Moore) went 6-0

    60
    Steven Brown of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 6-0

    65

    Jayden Raney of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0 (All by Fall)

    70
    Reese Mcgill of South Oldham went 6-0

    Sophie Anderson of Walton Verona went 5-0 (All by Fall)

    75
    Hunter Schimming of Walton Verona went 5-0

    Jordyn Raney of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

    These two never met at the dual but my money would be on Raney after watching him wrestle

    80
    James Barragen of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

    85
    Jack James of Maritime Wrestling went 5-0

    90
    Cam Stahley of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 4-0

    95
    Joshua Strayer of Anderson County went 5-0 (All by Fall)

    100
    Paxton Aldridge of Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy went 6-0

    105

    Tucker Roth of River City Gold went 4-0

    112
    Luke Hyden of Walton Verona went 4-0

    120
    Gus Marble of River City Gold went 5-0

    HWT
    Caleb Burt of River City Green went 6-0

    Dereyon Harris of John Hardin went 6-0

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    Great day of wrestling today as we had what was probably our first Bluegrass Youth State Dual hosted by John Hardin Bulldogs. Congratulations to Maritime Wrestling for going undefeated on the day and congrats to Jayden Raney of Maritime for being selected MOW, well deserved!

    1st Place - Maritime Wrestling
    2nd Place - River City Gold
    3rd Place - Anderson County
    4th Place - South Oldham
    5th Place - Scott County Black
    6th Place - Walton Verona
    7th Place - MTS (Moore)
    8th Place - John Hardin
    9th Place - River City Green
    10th Place - North Oldham
    11th Place - Taylor County
    12th Place - Kentucky Stars Wrestling Academy
    13th Place - ALL STARS
    14th Place - Scott County Red
    1st-4th
    River City Gold defeated Anderson County 57-21.
    Maritime Wrestling defeated South Oldham 55-18.
    River City Gold defeated South Oldham 60-21.
    Maritime Wrestling defeated Anderson County 59-30.
    Maritime Wrestling defeated River City Gold 58-27.
    Anderson County defeated South Oldham 48-33.

    5th-8th
    Walton Verona defeated MTS (Moore) 43-27.
    Scott County Black defeated John Hardin 48-30.
    Scott County Black defeated MTS (Moore) 42-22.
    Walton Verona defeated John Hardin 39-37.
    MTS (Moore) defeated John Hardin 42-27.
    Scott County Black defeated Walton Verona 44-21.

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    6 minutes ago, She Beast said:

    Okay,quick question pertaining to youth state weigh ins.My girl will be at middle school state tournament as an alternate Saturday.I think I was told that her weigh in Saturday for middle school state will be counted for youth state.Is this correct? Just making sure.

    Yes Marcella, MS weigh-ins will count  

    Jonathan Strayer

    jnv858@gmail.com

     

     

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    8 minutes ago, Trell9998 said:

    Does anywhere in central Kentucky sell singlets? I've been to every sport store possible around Lexington. Was trying not to have to order online but might have too. Don't understand why sports stores don't atleast carry small variety.

    Wrestling in KY isn't big enough yet....what are their weights/ages? Our first year we bought online

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    Coaches,

    We have decided to add morning weigh ins for the Youth state tournament on the day of. 
     
    Here is the schedule for weigh ins:

    -Friday February 3rd6-9PM at Crowne Plaza Hotel 830 Philips Lane Louisville, KY 40209

    -Saturday February 4th1-4PM at Crowne Plaza Hotel 830 Philips Lane Louisville, KY 40209

    -Sunday February 5th6:30-7:30AM at Broadbent Arena

    -Sunday February 5th 11:00AM-12:00PM at Broadbent Arena

    Please encourage wrestlers that can to weigh in prior to the day of the event. Make sure your wrestlers are aware they must show a copy of their Birth Certificate at weigh in.

    Questions or issues please contact:

    Jonathan Strayer @ jnv858@gmail.com

    Tyler Baines @ johntylerbaines@gmail.com

    Scott Raney @ purchaseareapounders@gmail.com

    2017-Kentucky-Youth-State-Wrestling-Championships.pdf

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    Coaches,

    We have decided to add morning weigh ins for the Youth state tournament on the day of. 
     
    Here is the schedule for weigh ins:

    -Friday February 3rd6-9PM at Crowne Plaza Hotel 830 Philips Lane Louisville, KY 40209

    -Saturday February 4th1-4PM at Crowne Plaza Hotel 830 Philips Lane Louisville, KY 40209

    -Sunday February 5th6:30-7:30AM at Broadbent Arena

    -Sunday February 5th 11:00AM-12:00PM at Broadbent Arena

    Please encourage wrestlers that can to weigh in prior to the day of the event. Make sure your wrestlers are aware they must show a copy of their Birth Certificate at weigh in.

    Questions or issues please contact:

    Jonathan Strayer @ jnv858@gmail.com

    Tyler Baines @ johntylerbaines@gmail.com

    Scott Raney @ purchaseareapounders@gmail.com

    2017-Kentucky-Youth-State-Wrestling-Championships.pdf

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    13 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:

    To be honest MLee what we say and think on this site is meaningless.  

    It's good for maybe getting a feel for something and maybe hearing some ideas, but as I mentioned I believe that the elected officials should be the ones making those decisions. Those people were voted because they were believed to be the best to make these decisions.  Once they make the decision then follow through prove me or whoever believed against it wrong or prove I am right.  Then change or keep it the same.  

    We may not like KHSAA's decisions on everything but they make the decision then stick with it. Unless a huge outcry is made.  They try it, see if it works then moves on to the next year either changing again or keeping it. 

    But what do I know I'm just an old fart just hanging around with barely the energy to read what is being written on this site let alone go out and do anything about it. :(:ph34r:

    Goo, I actually take copious notes as I scroll through these forums to see what the consensus is out in the field, like I said this is only my first year on the KSWA board and I am still forming ideas and thoughts fluidly. I know in Central KY we have discussed having a coaches meeting to get a consensus in our area so we speak with a unified voice on as many topics as possible when it comes time for he KSWA coaches meeting. 

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    51 minutes ago, Nolans Dad said:

    My daughter is wrestling youth......, My son is a midde school wrestler, dependng on his results he might do youth.... Im confused they wiegh in for YOUTH regions! Then where and when and what time is YOUTH state weigh ins? Thanks!

     

    Weigh-ins:

    Friday 3 FEB 6-9pm @ Crowne Plaza

    Friday 4 FEB 1-4pm @ Crowne Plaza

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    19 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:

         Much like our government. Each district or region should vote for a representative.  That way each district or region is represented. This is not rocket science its the same way the high school does it.  Why does everyone need to reinvent the wheel.  Follow the high school lead. 

         I have said this for years the middle school should be a mirror image of the high school. Or a close enough image.  

    I think I see what your saying Goo, so when issues are brought up from the field (coaches) the we the board memebers are the only ones that vote on it not the collective group? That does make sense, although I personally like to collect as many opinions and thoughts from the field before making a decision and the only way to do that is max participation from the collective group. I would love to get emails from the field if somebody isn't able to make the meetings.....this is my first year on the board and I have my own initial platform but I am also trying to build and improve that platform with opinions from across the field.