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Reminder for all Schoolboy: FLYER SHOULD READ: WRESTLING WILL BEGIN NLT 9:30 A.M. FOR PEE-WEE-SCHOOLBOY, 1:30 P.M. FOR CADET, JUNIOR, UNIVERSITY, AND OPEN

Gene, he is registered, but you need to see Keith on Saturday, I think the number is bumb that you are using. I just tried it and a name search - both came up bad on the mat.com. You are preregistered though. JW

When: November 9th What: 2nd Annual JH Bulldogs Veterans Memorial Tournament Where: John Hardin

Any coaches that want a tournament username for quicker team entry - email me at jory.whorton@gmail.com and I will send you a link with a team admin username and password. This will allow you to input wrestlers from you season roster, input more quickly and still meet the pre-registration requirements. Provide first name, last name and team. I will reply with a link that will allow you to input and edit your teams entries. Thanks JW

Any coaches that want a tournament username for quicker team entry - email me at jory.whorton@gmail.com and I will send you a link with a team admin username and password. This will allow you to input wrestlers from you season roster, input more quickly and still meet the pre-registration requirements. Provide first name, last name and team. I will reply with a link that will allow you to input and edit your teams entries. Thanks JW

FLYER SHOULD READ: WRESTLING WILL BEGIN NLT 9:30 A.M. FOR PEE-WEE-SCHOOLBOY, 1:30 P.M. FOR CADET, JUNIOR, UNIVERSITY, AND OPEN

Mr. Fletcher - the trackwrestling number and the USA Card number are different - not the same as said above. You are able to register him now without his number. There was a mistake on the flyer that says schoolboys weigh-in in morning but wrestle in afternoon. The intent is to have schoolboy wrestle in the morning. I will email all that pre-register on Friday to confirm this. FLYER SHOULD READ: WRESTLING WILL BEGIN NLT 9:30 A.M. FOR PEE-WEE-SCHOOLBOY, 1:30 P.M. FOR CADET, JUNIOR, UNIVERSITY, AND OPEN

Anyone planning to wrestle in this event must preregister through trackwrestling by Thursday IOT to wrestle on Saturday. I have set it up that you don't prepay on the site, but still have to preregister. This will expedite weigh-ins at the tournament. FLYER SHOULD READ: WRESTLING WILL BEGIN NLT 9:30 A.M. FOR PEE-WEE-SCHOOLBOY, 1:30 P.M. FOR CADET, JUNIOR, UNIVERSITY, AND OPEN

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Registrations are still open for this 3 session clinic. Please reserve your spot early for planning purposes.

I am going backoff a little on this specifically a i believe there is alot of truths to what raidercoach and mlee have said and no point have i ever said the tournament did not run smoothly and do believe that there is alot of lnog thankless hours put into the tournament. My new proposal would be an optional system. If there were 6 teams willing to run a tournament every other weekend utilizing weight classes and weighins, have them as open tournaments, out of state welcome, we could have a Kentucky Triple Crown Series. This still leaves 10 % invitationals for those that want, adds a series that may draw in some out of state comp bringing competition to us, have special awards for those that win 3 of the events, one of which has to be the last one. Make the date of this prior to the state tournament so it doea not deter away from that and the numbers that are needed for the arena. Still keeps within the league without hurting kentucky wrestling as a whole. Is this something that would be considered and not deter from the association goals. If not, i will shut up til next year so me and the raiderscoach can continue our love / hate relationship.

I like the idea, but dont necessarily think you would have to close the out of state or not use the rumble. Out of state cant qualify, but no qualification points earned for out of atate spot. Run the 4 or 6 or 8 tournaments and utilize a points system that creates a top 16 ranking for each designated classes. Seems like something worth trying.

Its not about working magic, as you say, and I understand supporting something you believe in, but it it is not what everybody wants statewide, why is it so hard to allow others to voice an opinion, discuss things. You always want facts, I was trying to get a poll of the facts. Numbers of people who want change and numbers who don't. The only thing know right now is there were a number of people starting to voice their opinion and it was overtaken by you trying to call me out on somehting totally outside the subject. I did run the numbers and ran them again this year - but the only thing that will show is some brackets are huge and others are small, but that would not be the case if you ran a regional or a points system throughout the year which limited each weight class to no more than 16 qualifiers. Some work would have to be done to figure out the right way, but that is what committees do, its not impossible. With the current number of kids with the turned-in weights, utilizing USA Weight Classes and age groups, if you limited each bracket to 16 person brackets - you would have had 653 kids wrestling that day.with forty of those brackets having between 10 and 16 wrestlers, four having 7-8 wrestlers, and six brackets having 5 or less kids. That would be a total of 60 brackets. I agree, that if your intent is to allow every single kid who buys wrestling shoes to come, than it is crazy on the size of some brackets. Largest ones being: 46, 45 and 40. Two of them would be at 34, one at 31 and twenty of them in the 20's. The 20's would be doable, but over 30 would be ridiculous to keep at double elimination. Yes I understand that there were 300 more kids involved in the tournament, but we could probably have a "Rookie" State tournament every year that would allow wrestlers with 2 years and less experience to wrestle and become a Rookie State Champion, provide another club or team an opportunity to host a pretty big event. This would also allow those 1st and 2nd Year wrestlers that are 10 and 11 to wrestle in a tournament where they aren't 3 and 4 years behind in experience. Still meeting the introduction stage. I don't have the region breakdown or the team list to start trying to figure out regions, I would like to look at it. Not saying I am right and you are wrong, just saying that there are others that would like to see some change and anytime people talk about it, you turn it into a childish argument instead of the topics. I will ask again that you grow up, act like a professional, and quit trying to paint a bad picture of me. You are overexageratting an issue to try to steer the conversation away.

My comment was about the quality of the state tournament, I mean state gathering. All of your facts always relate to growing and numbers. I understand you had problems with brackets when you only had 400 kids state wide wrestling, and no I was not here then. But you have grown to over 900 kids last year. over 900 kids this year. I think the growing part is fine, it is now time to have a regional qualifier, and have weight classes that determine state champions. Again, for you another time - I was not escorted out, thrown out, or even asked to leave the tournament. It was the last match of the day that you are referring to, a NH boy wrestling a Raider kid. The referee made about 10 horrible calls, both ways. 2 more referees came down to the mat and made it even more of a debaucle. I walked away from the mat when the match was over and made a comment to the one of the officials that they should be ashamed to wear stripes. And I think they should be. If we were as bad at coaching as some of the officials are at officiating, I would quit coaching and I think you would to. No reason the guys in the corner should know the rulebook better than the official calling the match - it is their profession. Furthermore - send me the list, with the kids actual weights (you can't do that because nobody knows the actual weights), region they are assigned, and I will look at it based off of weight classes. I also have another proposal that would meet the intent of all that we can discuss or you can just shoot them down, make false claims on peoples character, and defend your point to the bitter end like it is the only one that matters. Your choice, let me know.

I have never been thrown out of a youth, hmiddle school or high school event, and yes i have coached at each level in this state and others. Wrong guy on that false accusation. But good try. As far as splitting the state isnt it coaches from your program that always threaten to .head to the cywl. I want change for the better and alot of others want the same thing. If you choose not to liaten because of selfish pride, you will find a split. Not what i want but also not afraid of it if it is good for the sport to allow a league that grows not only in quantity but also in quality and performance. Again, this was to give people an honest chance to express their vote and you find a way to make it a personal issue. Read the original post and it specifically said take emotion out of it, again you could not do it.

I came up with you watched an 8 to 1 vote going on and couldnt control yourself from the mlee history lesson. 8 to your one on weigh ins. I think it migh be 7 to 2 on weight classes. But what do others opinions really matter, when you put so much stock into yours.

Cmon, i wanted a poll without influence and you have to try to argue your point. It is as bad as having a president that does not care what the people think. Let your thoughts go and let people have a say.

Are the bylaws posted somewhere that all can see?

IPHONE Repost You can input them your way that i fine. Appreciate.

That would be the preferred method. I would prefer all individuals register themselves. It would be great if the ones running satellite weigh ins would contact me so i can give them a username and password and they could register wrestlers on site at weigh ins also and record weights. If they are not registered and on a weigh in roster i will take care of it.

All coaches conducting remote weigh-ins - I will need a spreadsheet roster of all wrestlers sent to me (jory.whorton@gmail.com) by Thursday at 9:00 PM to ensure the wrestlers receive the pre-registered discount entry fee and are put into trackwrestling. Information needed will be: First Name, Last Name, Team, Group/ Division, Weight Class, USA Card Number, Example Spreadsheet can be found at: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9b4XhoX9sjtdVU0TkkxTjZid0U/edit?usp=sharing

Pre-Registration can be completed at: http://www.trackwrestling.com/registration/BasicPreReg1.jsp?tournamentGroupId=82898009 This will save you time for registration and weigh-ins as this will automatically confirm your required USA Card and have you pre-input into the proper weight class. This is set-up to record your discounted fee that will be required prior to weigh-in.

There are bylaws????

I believe that stalling should be called at all ages, even if you are not going to hit them for points, it should be called, whistle blown and a restart. There are many cases where the stalling is obvious and saying we don't call stalling is only allowing a bad habit to be created. Call the stalling, warning, explain and restart from same position. Next time, call the stalling, warning and restart from neutral. This forces the kid to wrestle instead of protecting the lead. Gets rid of the points being awarded costing the match, but allows the other kid the opportunity to win instead of being hugged for 1 minute.

. The name o the organization is less important than the heart and desire of the people running it. What would you like to see changed?