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    We live in eastern Ky and no one here has started practicing yet. My son is wanting to start but no where to do it at and no one to do it with. I'm willing to travel a day or 2 a week to get him some mat time in. If anyone has started and could use an extra body let us know. Oh yeah he is 9 and a 2 time Ky state champion. He wrestled middle school last year. Won districts and placed 2nd in regions at 70lbs. qualified for middle school state. He will probably be a 70lber again this year. Let me know thanks.

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    The refs in BB have been terrible this year, I agree there. But some calls are just so horrid it's beyond explainable. To those refs that are this bad they need to bevtook off the mat. Sure some are going to make mistakes. Out of bounds calls, back points, even some take downs. But to call illegal moves when it's not even close to being illegal and then taking 5 points and a pin for it is just unexceptional. If their this bad they have no business on the mats. But to the ones that under stand the sport and are really trying and sometimes make small mistakes I really do appreciate them for doing their job.

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    I agree with this comment. My son had a double arm bar and went to run it towards the ear, in order to stack the kid for the pin. The same move he has ran for the past 3 years, also ran it in national tournaments and the way the move is intended to be run. Only to be stopped by the ref twice and told it was an illegal move because of torque on the shoulder. In return they are stood up and his oppenent runs directly at him, they bump knees and now we are seeing a ortho surgeon tomorrow. I realize this could happen at any time but wouldn't had happened at this time, had the ref made to correct call. With the time and effort these kids put in, it has to be addressed.We were scheduled to go to a national tournament in 2 weeks and now that is in question. All of this could have been avoided with the proper call. Truely unfortunate. This is above and beyond a kid losing a belt, this is about an injury that could have possibly been avoided all together.

    First let me say I'm sorry your son suffered an injury I truly hope he recovers quick and gets healthy. Not sure if you remember but when they carried your son off the mat and placed him next to the bleachers I was the guy that came over and touched his head and wished him well. You may not remember and that's understandable with the situation. I watched the match your talking about with your son. I never saw anything wrong with the moves your son was running. In fact I looked at the coach I was with and ask why they stopped it. Neither one of us could figure it out. These refs have to be trained what an actual move looks like period.

    I'm not complaining only because my son lost the belt. I'm complaining because 6 months of blood, sweat, and tears was taken away from my son because of an incompetent ref. He did what he was suppose to do. Wrestled and wrestled well. Up 5 points then pins the kid. Now a ref takes that away because he feels like it with no evidence to back him up. That's not right and it happens to kids every weekend in Ky because of horrid refs. Sure it happens elsewhere to but not at the clipit happens in Ky.

    But God bless and I hope your son heels fast and gets back to wrestling very soon.

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    Sorry but I'm going to vent a little here. It's probably going to be a little long.

    Calling reverse halfs illegal...come on what a joke. The officiating at Nelson County and all the belt series tournaments was a travesty to the sport and state.

    A kid clearly pins a kid while in a mount with a reverse half in a championship match that would have gave him the belt championship. The ref is at the table making the match final the kid was up 5 points then a pin. But here's comes the coach saying that was an illegal move. After the match was over for say at least 30 seconds. The kids hand was raised and the ref was at the scorers table making it official and everything. So the coach says illegal and the ref says well let me think a minute...knowing he didn't see anything illegal in the match take place. But with the guy in his ear the whole time he let's the coach officiate the match not him. He takes 5 points and the pin away from my son for nothing. They go to overtime. Then he calls a takedown on what was clearly not even close to one. I guess the guy paid the ref or something. I hope it was a lot to take 6 months of hard work from a 8 year old that earned that win and the belt. It was so bad the other boys mom said she didn't understand the all either because nothing illegal took place.

    I also have it all on video if anyone would like to see it with USA wrestling. I tried to ask if they were anyone I could speak to about this ref but the USA rep there didn't know anything. The head ref was nice and said I had argument but he couldn't do anything because he didn't see it. But if youth wrestling in Kentuky expects to keep improving these refs have to be trained right and know there jobs.

    This ref and others like him have to be trained to understand the sport and ref it correctly. If not kids will never know what moves to hit and what moves not to hit. This reverse half that is suppose to illegal my son has used all year. Wrestling middle school in Ky, youth in OH, PA, WV, and Va and it has never been called illegal because its not.

    I'm typing this because my son was so heart broke that grown men would do this to him and take something away from him that he has worked so hard for. I also hope it never happens to any other kids out there that put there heart and soul into something and ge cheated by adults. Let's make our refs better so our kids can compete with the best.

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    It just take the coaches to step up to do it like the MS. KY USA Wrestling will support all the teams it can that represent Kentucky at USAW events.

    Im interested If there is anyone else out there interested. This is a conversation that needs to happen.

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    Taylor is ranked #1 Div. 2 by OWR ( Ohio Wrestling rankings) and he finished 3rd in the state so I don't see how you have him in the 13 to 15 range. Jude out wrestled the kid by a lot (11-2) and the Taylor kid only lost to the eventual state champ 6-3 I believe so I think Jude could have very well placed first in Ohio aswell. He has earned everyones respect. He has been a all american the past 3 years while finishing runner up his sophomore year.

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    As has been stated the depth is much greater but there have been Ky kids doing well in OH , of course my personal beef was with a few blasting my kids I know why they comment they know kids have been off the Matt and wish to hit someone when they are down because that's the only way they can beat certain kids who have shown them up, I doubt any Norther Oh people care about Ky it's obviously the SW guys who are ticked at having been outdone by Northern Oh and some kids who came to ky .

    To say a kid wouldn't make it out of districts is a mistake Austin has never not made it out of districts since 1 st grade same for Steph an both are the only two to win jr high dist every yr ,

    Of course they would not be the weight they were in ky that was not thee choice as falsely reported they were not allowed to drop because they did not make weight or get the chance to rather although Steph did but it was before he was allowed to , they should do away with how they do weight very in ky it's unfair and hold kid back making matchup a unfair at times .

    Can't post on yappi and didn't do anything to get banned except reply to a dirty pm by a hater .

    Noticed They are still on aCollica kick Stephen beat him at every level grade school jr high and HS and he beat and places higher than Newhouse an Bright . As for the rankings comments ky kids are ranked and Stephen was voted # 1 125 lb wrestler in OH last yr and just because someone crosses the river doesn't mean they forget how to wrestle , and josh Lowe smoothing with the haters and dropping kids from his rankings is a joke ,he simply has a chance to blast two kids from Cincy who showed him and his buddies up and gave the SW some hope you know it and everyone in oh Does as well we did it first and better and set the bar .

    Of course the current moe clique has a chip on its shoulder having been whipping dogs for the boys for yrs their fab fresh haven't lives up to their expectation or Stephen and Austin will end up where none of them could a 4 timer who dominate Oh Ed's is down next yr bet they still beat moe it's in their psyche ,

    Don't know what they mean about puberty and me hiding kids steph wrestled HS for two yrs in oh 93 and 4 I think h wrestled all grades all kids and Austim wrestled open tournys in summer in HS div for yrs he beat two moe kids as an 7th grader over summer one yr

    Regardless I'm beating a dead horse myself they seem bent on attacking us when I compliment all who deserve it and yeah I think it's funny their ow ran from Steph last yt at Swowca and still lost to a no ranked kid , that's one of Moes greatest guess , now I'm thinking Austin ends up better than any kid in Cincy ever he knocks out 4 even in ky but at a big weight and he will beat everyone in oh by his jr yr easily just as he did in jr high and jr high in oh is one div,

    Ignorant for them to attack him as for his development he has gotten much stronger since the end of the season he would be a contender at 195 in oh next yr without ?

    Fahy ,Cooper ,Brock , Jayce , Yenter , Faust , Hamilton , and some others would all do well in Oh Jude with a few weeks of top caliber partners would do well I'm sure that's what athletes do in those situations .

    Probably quite a few I missed a for all the ky teams didn't do well against oh teams that did poorly at state talk CC would have beaten a lot of teams at state that they might not at smaller tournys it's the nature of the sport top guns score big at big tournys ,

    There are a few teams in Nky that can compete and a few outside of Nky that could compete in Oh not knocking off Ed's or graham but hanging with the average to slightly better teams and gaining i do think it's very possible for a few ky kids to do better than their Oh counterparts and I am sure of one who will and know one who did ,

    My point is they seem to try to pay themselves on the back by knocking people who are improving ,take it as the compliment it really is they wouldn't be talking if they were not concerned after being 2 nd rate to Northern OH for so long some Cincy people need an ego boost let them feel confident it makes it that much easier to catch up to them I think some of the wins this yr ky kids had over some of the better Cincy kids woke them up a bit,

    You say JJ Jude maybe able to hang with the Ohio kids. Well I believe he has proved he can. Let me explain. The kid (Brandon Taylor) that finished 3rd in this years Ohio high school state championship and was ranked #1 in Div. 2 in Ohio this year JJ Jude beat 11-2 at WSAZ this year. The Taylor kid only lost 6-3 I believe to the eventually Ohio state champion Chris Moore from Clyde. So I believe that proves he at least can hang with Ohio kids.

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    The turnout was pretty good. Not sure of the numbers but it looked to be a decent turnout.

    As for the belts I'm not sure how there doing it. But I think they have a belt for each weight class in each division. They had the belts there at the tourney and they were more than 8 belts there. So I think it is for each weight class in each division but I could be wrong.

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    Yes as a whole Ky is still weaker than OH. But my point is if Ky took a (because I not have a better word) All-star team up to Oh with Ky cream of the crop wrestlers Ky would hang with them. I would love to put a full team together and do just this. I'm taking Blue to the Vipet Pit, Tournamentof Champions, and the cliff keen tourney in Oklahoma coming up. There we will see how he is progressing. But last year Blue wrestled the kid( Hartley kid) that placed 2nd in his age and weight division at the Tournament of Champions. He pinned him in the 2nd period at Bidwell Oh. So yes OH is still ahead of Ky as a whole but not at the top levels of the sport IMO.

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    Thanks. Yeah it's a lot of time, money, and travel but in the end I believe it will all be worth it. To be the best you have to wrestle the best and thats what we try to do. Are there going to be any camps up your way this summer? Are your boys going to be helping at any of the summer camps? Your kids are studs and I love watching them wrestling. JJ Jude and Sam Preston work with my boys a lot and it's making them better and coach Matneys not a bad coach to learn from he does great with them.

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    Kentuckys wrestling is catching up with Ohio very fast. I've watched some high school (including the whole state tournament) but mostly I deal with middle school and youth. My son is a 8 yr old 2nd grader and the only time he has wrestled in the state of Kentucky is middle school(which he finished 4th in his region) and the youth state tournament. He has not lost in the state of Ohio in youth tournaments. We have wrestled from Cleveland to Bidwell to New Lexington so we have wrestled all around the state. He has wrestled all the top kids in his weight class (65lbs) from Ohio. He has had one close match in Ohio and that was to a kid named Cody Mathews. His coach told me he hadn't lost this year. Blue won 8-4 in a match that was actually closer than the scores seems. But my point is this. People always say Ky kids can't compete with OH kids. I say bull crap. We here at Johnson Central have 2 kids that travel 3, 4, and 5 hours to states such as PA, WV, OH, TN, VA and so on every weekend to compete with the best youth kids out there. Guess what they do compete and compete quite well. So I think Ky is catching up to the other states around us very quickly and they know it. Blues youth record is 42-3 with is only loses coming to a PA state champ(3-6), a OK state champ(3-5), a WV state champ(12-9) crazy match. So KY kids can and will compete with the best kids in the country IMO.

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    Just wanting to see who was going. Im bringing my boy hes a 8yr old 65lber. Im also bringing a 9yr old 55lber with me. Hoping theres some pretty good competition there and the series turns out great. Were coming from 3 1/2 hours away for this tourney. So who else is going?

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    How's it false advertising? Every other state has at least 2(most cases more) tournaments with the words "state" and "championship" in it. There's nothing false about it. If you want to come and wrestle that's great, come on down. If not that's fine also. But there will be a great Kentucky State Elementary Championship taking place either way. With some great young talent that can hang with anyone. It's already been proven.