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http://sikorasoftsystems.com/RTsql_D1_SB/ The link above will take you to the live bout board and brackets when wrestling starts later today. The live bout board is updated every few seconds to show who is wrestling, on what mat, the score, period, and time. It's like "watching" a match. You have to register at the link but it's free and doesn't mess up the computer. go to www.flowrestling.com to see live video feed. The video coverage isn't good. It is just two cameras showing 2 of the 8 mats. And those are the ones they commentate. I got to see one of Hardy's and one of John's matches yesterday. John's quarterfinal match was great. (Coach Brown from Trinity and Coach Reed from Seneca were in his corner- show me the love, region 4!) As of last night, I didn't see any KY guys matches had been archived, but they probably will be. All the KY guys won some good matches.

DeSales, St.X, and Trinity are already banned.

Congratulations Zach- we have enjoyed watching you all these years. I think it was at the regional tournament this year, if I remember correctly (not completely sure), I overheard someone say, while you were wrestling Grant Ohlmann, "Here goes Michaels, getting ready to frustrate the he_ _ out of somebody..." And it's true, your unique style was probably one of the great enigmas in KY wrestling! Good luck-

The small school guys already have "incentive" ...to win state. I hate to ruin this but I believe Union County would be a "small school." So your scenario is already shot. I remember my college days on full ride athletic scholarship- winning something small was not nearly as satisfying as placing at something BIG. If we're teaching these kids that the only important thing is the hardware on their necks, it's the wrong message. And we as coaches and parents need to be better than that.

Wrestlers don't want to be one of three or four state champs- they want to be THE state champ. If you're going to divide everyone up, then I suggest the state meet finish with all the division champions wrestling one another to determine the best. THEN you have a state champion. (In other words, I think the idea of this, for wrestling, is ridiculous- let the young men wrestle.)

Just wondering how often two brothers shared the winners stand in the same weight class. How cool is that? Too bad their cousins aren't in town!

Great photos! Thank you so much-

Great tournament- Brock Ervin is a beast. Nice to see Ohlman's victory; he's a hard working kid. Palmer's accomplishments were something else too. Lampe's win was well-deserved too; he is one of the hardest workers in wrestling and a great young man; no showboating after his matches. Fahy calm and collected as always. Lots of wrestling with a lot of heart. Broussard wrestled better than I've seen him wrestle before. A pleasure to see Johnson back on top. Overall, a good night for KY wrestling.

Now, I just KNOW there are people at the tournament with computers- we sure would love updates here at home!

I just got off the phone with a friend down in western KY near Bowling Green- he said it's been snowing since 4 pm and they have two or three inches already.

Grapplesack- In case you couldn't figure it out that post was being facetious. However, no parent "bashed" the boy, ever. (I would challenge you to that fact, but you will swear that being "irritated" with a situation regarding middle school eligibility was bashing to a child- then somehow you convinced everyone here someone was bashing a child. Some people vouched for whoever the dad is and you STILL cut him down like you actually know him. Are you crazy? Don't you think you owe HIM an apology? I'm sure you don't and you'll tell me so. You know him better than the people who know him I'm sure. At least he was man enough to apologize even when he didn't need to- now THAT is the real man around here. (oops, I'm assuming things- you might very well be a girl so I apologize ahead of time if I offended or irritated you calling for you to man up.) I don't think a lot of parents know the situation with kids in private schools not being able to wrestle, even if a "feeder program" is located in a high school where the middle schooler will go to school. I would love for people on here to voice opinions on that, not necessarily the Hall situation. I think it's important that people who can affect change (the khsaa people who make the rules) need to know this is happening. I think it needs to be changed to give kids equal opportunities. You're right, life's not fair, but this is a situation that is penalizing kids for no good reason. What good reason is there to allow some children opportunity and deny others? THAT is the real topic that came to light when Hall showed up. Dog- the homeschoolers should absolutely be included in this (this is a topic that has been discussed before). The KHSAA website has something in their mission statement about giving all kentucky kids opportunity to compete at sports- but they don't mean that. They mean the ones who fall in line and attend their schools and pay their fees. It's basically a lie.

Okay, grapplesacks. It took me a really long time to figure this out, as I went about my day fretting about how horrible it is for people to be irritated by situations. Like, you are really irritated by IK winning KY state titles when he didn't live in KY (I could show the quote but you know what you wrote) In fact, you would be totally illogical and going against your own irritated convictions if you are not equally irritated when and if Mr. Hall wins a state championship. A few months in a tent or motor home on someone else's property does not a resident make, does it? And the rules are the rules are the rules, right? So IK had every right to wrestle for his school, just like Mr. Hall does, right? Truth be told, I have this sneaking suspicion that IK or some other private school kid must have kicked you all over the mat and you're still mad about it, after all these years. Sorry for the luck, Dude. Quit whining about it and be a man.

Are you kidding? That's funny.

Yes, it is about the middle school rule and nothing else.

If you notice (which you don't, grapplesack, or you wouldn't keep making the senseless point), it's about middle schoolers. Your inference to Knable is like comparing apples to oranges. You're making no sense in using him as an example. The discussion is about MIDDLE SCHOOLERS wrestling for schools they don't attend. Hall does NOT go to Ryle High School. Yet he wrestles for them because he is in their middle school feeder program. Lampe's kid must be in St.X's feeder program. He is not allowed to wrestle for them because it is a KHSAA rule. Lampe sounds irritated at the system in place because it excludes good kids who shouldn't be penalized because they are in the "wrong" place. You must not have any children because parents who love their kids want to give them opportunities for lots of things, not just wrestling. The KHSAA rule stinks. That's what he's saying. You apparently think it's okay to penalize children because their parents are religious or rich or whatever it is that you're not. I wonder why you're even on this board if you aren't supportive of the kids' having a fair chance at wrestling one another. You obviously think private school kids don't deserve what Mark Hall deserves.

A lot of people have explained that their problems are NOT with Mark Hall. They are ALL saying it brings forward the point that there are many true KY athletes who are barred from wrestling varsity as middle schoolers merely because they wrestle for a certain feeder program. The motivation for the middle schooler being at such a program may be because the parents like the coaching or it is convenient or whatever. It's apparent that Grapplesack has a huge problem with private schools and keeps dissing the "catholics" who he erroneously blames for these types of rules- it's the KHSAA. It seems there should be a HUGE problem in Jefferson County because the schools are FREE and the kids can go to ANY ONE OF THEM as long as logistics for race and whatever are met. If my kid wants to go to Jeffersontown, he doesn't have to live in Jeffersontown. If he wants to go to Ballard, he could live 40 miles across town. So how is this any different than choosing to go to St. X, Trinity, or DeSales or whatever? AND, you keep picking on that Lampe guy. His son goes to St. X for the academic opportunities; he wasn't recruited to wrestle, and if it's all about wrestling, why wouldn't he have gone to Trinity? So grapplesack's whole argument is stupid because all 100,000 students or whatever in Jefferson County's public schools can pick wherever they want to go to school. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Back to my original comment- it seems Trinity would be happy to have Hall. The reason they would "turn him down" is because they aren't allowed to wrestle 7th graders on their team. Ryle is.

The only disappointments that come to my mind are 1) the fact that 7-8 graders in Kentucky, who actually LIVE here, born and raised here, but go to private school feeder programs like St. X and Trinity are NOT allowed to compete with their high schools and 2) if a kentucky high school drops its program on its wrestlers, they can't transfer to other schools without a one year penalty. We penalize our own KY kids all the time, and Hall gets a free pass to show up part time. Sure, it's legal and all. I just think some of these rules should be ironed out a bit.

Who's going to Mater Dei and any predictions?