Charger Coach

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  1. Yes, with the caveat that coming from a "weak" region you get more #1 and #2 spots coming in and better draws theoretically.

    Agreed, but we have seen plenty of 4 seeds beat a 1 seed and 3 seeds beat a 2 seed and then you never know what you're going to get in the wrestlebacks, which many people say is where the team championships are won.

  2. I wonder how many champs placers from different schools came from reg 1 , which brings me to the point of ,it's harder to bring a team to state and win from a stacked region with less likely chances to take your whole team or most of it !!!!


    I agree somewhat, but also look at it this way.  If you take 10 kids from your team to state from a stacked region, don't you think the chances of them winning matches, scoring points and advancing, thus potentially placing would be better than if a team took 12-14 kids to state from a region that wasn't as stacked?  Unless of course those 12-14 kids from a team in a region not as stacked would have a chance at placing in the stacked region as well meaning they're just that good?  I'm not knocking any region, team, wrestler, etc just wondering what others would think in this scenario.

  3. I can say this about Jason Frakes from personal experience, if you ask him to do something and help give him the resources to do it, he will.  It's pretty simple, just take the time to e-mail or call.  I had a wrestler a few years back who won a state title.  The kid was a pretty good story.  Honestly, when you think about it, we have a lot of kids in this great sport similar to this kid.  He didn't have a lot of natural talent, but he had a lot of guts and determination along with a tremendous work ethic.  Three years after starting the sport in which he won two matches his first year, both by forfeit, he won 50 matches and a state title.  I asked Jason to please do an article on this kid.  I gave Jason stats and the brief overview of the story and wouldn't you know it, he came out to the school, interviewed the kid and a week later, there was an article in the Courier-Journal.  In Bullitt County, after every meet in which we competed, I would make sure to send my results to the sports editor of the Pioneer News.  No, not every meet's results wound up in the paper, but about 75% of them did.  It just takes a little time and effort on our part.  I know time is precious and limited, especially during the season, but it can be done.

  4. I'm guessing it will start out in 3 pools of 4 and each pool will round robin.  From there it will break down into 4 pools of 3 with the winner of each previous pool going into a pool together, 2nd place from the previous pools going in together, etc.  Each one of those pools will round robin.  It would be tough to hold it in a day, but under the old format for regional duals, Region 3 did something similar.  It worked out pretty well overall.  I guess the old format could still be used as well where you start in pool play then break off into brackets.  Either way it would be interesting to see.  On a side note, I'm proud of Bullitt East.  Good to see those kids have a little success.  They're definitely up against it in the big school division and I can't imagine them doing very well against those schools, but I'm proud of the kids nonetheless.

  5. Moderators.....plllleeeeeaaaasssseeee don't lock this thread / topic!!!! This is like my male soap opera version of All My Children, General Hospital, etc. If you lock this thread, that's just like the Friday episode every week where at the end of the show, something dramatic is about to happen, but you're left in suspense until Monday's episode. Oh, and by the way, since we're off topic yet again....I miss my boy Mr. Granby. It's been a few months since I talked to you. Shoot me a line.

    But seriously, how about that Cooper-Myers or Myers-Cooper match depending on your preference. I'm not coaching anymore so my Wednesdays are free. Would probably be worth bringing my 6-year-old monster phenom eater (seriously, the boy can eat....he's 4'7" and is believe it or not a lean 90 lbs. I know he's just a 1st grader, but put him against high school wrestlers in the state and he would finish top 20 in an eating contest...the boy can throw down or up if need be) up from Louisville to watch two outstanding young men / wrestlers go head-to-head to show him what hard work can accomplish.

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  6. Bullitt East HS in Mt. Washington is seeking a new head coach. The position could possibly come with a teaching job for the right candidate. There is a lot of potential with this young program. The AD is completely on board with the program as well which always is a plus. There will be approximately 20-25 wresters returning next year and the school is building a brand new auxillary complex which will have a gym solely for volleyball in the fall and wrestling in the spring (no sharing or cafeteria which is always nice). There are two middle schools that solely feed Bullitt East so the potential for a very strong MS feeder program is there as well. Please send me a PM if you are interested and I will put you in contact with the AD.

    Coach Hare

  7. Grappler, I agree with the last portion of your post. Some of it. Academically speaking, stats are stats and more private school kids go to college percentage wise than public. Period. With 95 percent of a student body going on to college, you can't argue with that. And yes... I went from a light hearted Jesus joke to Chargers suck. How long am I supposed to take the high road when so many public school geniuses called me "dumb"? After I realized most of those guys worked in public school and coached there, I calmed down a bit. I understand. They have a union and pension and vacation and all that to worry about. The Brothers that teach at our school all have abigger calling. They do it for the love of teaching, mentoring and God. Unlike posters above, who say they feel sorry for them because they don't make much money. So, as I sit and watch another tragic public school massacre unfold on the news, Ill think about the love and brotherhood at our "snooty" private school.

    Please note, I said one of the dumbest comments I've seen on here in a while, not a comment made by one of the dumbest people. As for "public school genuises", well you obviously don't know me so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Although I attended and graduated from a public high school, I did graduate from a very reputable, private college institution. By the way, I don't teach or work at a public school so I don't worry about a pension, vacation, etc and the only union I deal with is the one that so many of the employees I manage belong to. I'm a paraprofessional who also coaches simply for the love of the sport, mentoring and God as I try to set a positive example for many of the kids I coach so it's not something that is solely reserved for the "Brothers". My point is simple, God uses people from all walks of life regardless of race, ethnicity, religious affiliation, socio-economic background, etc. You don't have to be affiliated with a private school to do that and I don't think he sees it as a requirement. As for the education part, I agree with most that it's what each individual makes of it. There are plenty of public school kids who excel and plenty of private school kids who eventually drop out due to poor performance or behavior. Labeling a person solely based on whether they attended a private or public school is simply wrong any way you try to spin it. Now for the true reason behind this great debate, recruiting, Jacket Coach is absolutely 100% correct, ALL schools do it in some form or another. You win some and you lose some but regardless, you make the most of what you have and teach / coach the kids you have to the best of your ability to prepare them for life on and off the mat, court or whatever your field of play may be. Sure it sucks when as a coach, you're looking forward to coaching an athlete and they switch schools but if the parents decide to do such because they believe it's in the best interest of their child, how can I argue or complain about that?

    Stalling, I understand your frustration and you obviously have a biased opinion based on your comments and obvious affiliation in some way with a private institution whether it be student, alumnus, coach or whatever, but please remember not everyone is "out to get" or has a hatred for private schools. Having said that, I would hope that you would not reciprocate some of that negative behavior such as (even if meant as a joke) saying Chargers suck. My kids might not be the most talented or athletic, but they always give me a strong effort and as a whole, display the type of character and academics that make me proud to have been able to call myself their coach.

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  8. wow. Good for you. As has been established on here several times, there are good and bad in both. But, most on here seem to only see the bad in private, while extoling the greatness of public. I don't need your resume and your school history. If you like, Ill dig up info tomorrow on our school history and we can put them head to head. Know what? I still won't send my kid to a public school. We have several pro athletes as well that are active, politicians, scientist ect... but riddle me this batman, is your school you attended the exception or the rule for public school? And by the way... you got this. And you got that. WE GOT JESUS!

    Wow, dumbest comment I've seen on here in a while. So since I attended a public school and coached at a public school, I don't have Jesus?!?! I think that was a sophomoric chant the student section of Cincy St. X was cheering at a football game against Colerain this year. It was detested and ridiculed then and it is now as well. It's an absolute insult to anyone of faith who attended a public school. You think all kids who attend private Catholic schools have faith and religion and those who attend public schools don't simply because of where they receive their education?

  9. I sent my sons to St.X because of the moral emphasis the coaches at rivercity and St.X make a high priority in their program.We are allowed to mention God when giving a young man advice and we can pray as team.The harm done to public schools by taking the Pledge of Allegiance and prayer out of schools is obvious .The right to demand a higher moral standard from students is why I pay for my sons education.

    That can be done in public schools as well. I coach at a public school and we pray after practices, meets, etc sometimes. I frequently mention God when giving advice or trying to motivate as well. I've invited Coach Parks to come speak multiple times at practices about FCA and give his testimony. Those things can be done at public schools. I guess the difference is that I'm not really concerned or worried about being reprimanded for it although I don't think that would happen where I coach. Anyway, I think the biggest advantage to private vs. public is networking. Most kids don't understand how important that is while they're in high school, but find out how important it really is when they apply for jobs after college.

  10. The storms did seem to split North and South of Jefferson County. Bullitt County was hit hard by some hail and severe weather. Just across the river, there was a lot of damage by tornadoes. I work with a lady whose parents essentially lost their home. They are ok which is the main thing. A tornado practically destroyed Henryville Jr/Sr High School in Indiana which is only about 20 minutes North of Louisville. My thoughts and prayers definitely go out to those families who weren't so fortunate.

  11. I'm a firm believer in the fact that you need 4 key ingredients to keep a program running strong over a long period of time. Some, if not all programs can have spurts of good wrestling (usually comes with a group of 4 or 5 kids) but to have a program not just a team, I think these are the 4 key ingredients.

    1) Stable coaching staff: If your coaching staff turns over year after year, how can you expect the kids to stay? Not to mention it allows coaches to build relationships with the kids which is important.

    2) A coach in the building, not just the school system: It helps in all aspects of the program and mainly recruiting kids to come out. I think kids are less likely to quit as well. Kids are still kids and if they're more likely to see a coach roaming the halls or standing in the cafeteria on lunch duty, they don't want to face them. If your coaches aren't in the building, I think it's easier for them to quit since they don't have to see you everyday or they can duck out of school before a coach arrives for practice.

    3) Youth program: I know we have turnover with wrestlers year after year. Basically kids try the sport and after a year or two, they decide if it's for them or not. If you have a youth program, by the time kids reach the high school level, they have pretty much already made up their mind to stick with the sport or drop it. Plus, you have experienced wrestlers with at least a couple of years under their belt in most cases. You're not dealing as much with pouring a lot of effort and time into a kid only to have them quit a year or two later and have to start back over again with another kid at the high school level. Nothing is more frustrating as a coach than to have a kid who has enormous potential and picks up the sport very quickly, only to have them quit a year or two later so they can take up the guitar or join the Science club!!! (Obviously that last statement is from personal experience, lol)

    4) Support: This is in the form of both parental and administrative. A coach can't keep a program running solely by his or herself. Parental support helps because not only does it make it more special for the kids but it also allows the coach to focus their attention on the mat, not worry about fundraising, etc. Administrative support is important. The more people you have behind the team, the more likely to get kids to stay. They feel like they are a part of something and when that happens, it makes the hard practices and all day Saturdays seem like less of a sacrifice. When you can get the principal, AD or whoever to show up at meets it's a big deal. It also helps when administration does little things like make announcements in the mornings about the previous weekends tournaments and results. It makes the kids feel important and less like an after thought.

    Of course this is just my opinion, but most if not all of the programs I've seen that have success tend to be very strong in these 4 areas.

  12. Better performance over 2 days are you serious were you at the tournament NO one has ever had a performance like that at this tournament get real i saw Results from last yrs ow not even close NO one made it through a match a ten sec pin that was actually about a six and another that should have been about a 4 sec pin that kid shot in and was on his back in 2 seconds flat get real ,

    dont know Murton nor do i care ,all i know is what i saw and Fahy could not have done the same against the same comp as steph did and Stephen would have pinned everyone in Fahys class ,and he would have pinned everyone in Coopers as well except maybe that polly kid because Cooper was crushin him and he hung on hahahahah

    No matter how you cut it stephen performed the best over the 2 days no question about it from first match to last .

    I have to disagree. Just two years ago, Michael Osborne pinned his way through the entire state tournament including a 37 second pin over Jayce Carr who we know won a state title the next two years after that. You say you argue with facts, but you throw quite a bit of opinion in there as well like the above hi-lited statement. Also, to say Fahy couldn't have done what Stephen did at 152 is also opinion not fact. John is a great kid, very humble and respectful. Every year there are at least 3 or 4 kids who we could make an argument for as the MOW at the state tournament. A few years back, I had the priviledge to coach a kid who won a state title as an underdog so to speak. He did not give up a single offensive point the whole tournament. So not only did he "upset" three kids on the way to his state title but he did it in a fairly dominating performance yet he didn't win MOW. That year Mitch Ervin won MOW and you know what, I agreed with that. He also had a very good performance that weekend and was very deserving. John deserved that award this year and for that, I say congrats. I had a lot of fun watching that kid over the last 4 years just like I hope I have a lot of fun watching your sons over the next few years.

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  13. Pull Meade County out of region 3 and drop them to Region 2. Some schools in Regions 1 & 8 have to travel 2-3 hours so asking Meade County to travel an extra 15-30 minutes shouldn't be too much to ask. Make Regions 3 & 4 nothing but Jefferson County schools (Pull J-town, Eastern, Male and Fern Creek from Region 5 to make this happen). You could then take the 3 Bullitt County schools, the 3 Oldham County schools, Spencer County and maybe pull a few teams from either Region 2 (Nelson County maybe being one) or Region 7 (Western Hills or Franklin County) and drop them into Region 5 making the newly formed Region 5 nothing but non-Jefferson County schools. There are things that can be done to help even things out but only if the KHSAA is willing to do so. For the past five years now they haven't been. Simply look at their website. There are teams who have had programs for 3 or 4 years now that aren't showing on their current wrestling alignment list. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they don't care. There's not much you can do for Regions 1 or 8.

  14. Indiana has more middle school programs than Kentucky has high school programs. It's a Big 10 state and in those states, wrestling is huge. Kentucky is growing just fine in terms of wrestling so I say leave it be for now. Also, age may play a part in concern for middle school wrestlers wrestling high school level, but unlike other sports, size does not. A 113 lber is still a 113 lber if he's an 8th grader or senior. Strength might be another story, but weight is not.