dinubus

You are correct, you can coach your son. You can show him whatever you desire and whomever may be watching can learn if they so desire. However, I would not sit in the corner at a tournament by any other kids besides my own. That is where you would cross the line and get in trouble.

Coaches in KY can take kids to camps and be there for them at wrestling camps. They would not be showing the moves or "coaching" them, rather; they would be acting as an adult supervisor and trying to learn themselves. Look more at the rule rather than trying to go agains thwat I have stated. NC doesn't allow the coaches to "coach" in the off-season. Sorry!

1. Too much pressure being put on athletes (especially HS athletes that have more important things to worry about)? 2. Year round activities increase the chance of injury (wear down of joints, muscle tissues, ligaments, tendons, etc...)? There are many others, but these are the two most commonly mentioned.

National rules are not dictated by ref's insurance. It may be dictated in the ref's insurance. I have heard that. However, that does not make it a national rule. Again, I am not saying that it is not a national rule. It very likely is.

1. What doctor made the 5 match rule? :roll: 2. Yes, I never debated whether this was a national or state rule. I personnaly am not for sure. I do believe none of you are sure either. 3. The dead period is observed by all sports in all states. 4. I have not heard of a state that actually allowed a coach to coach in the off season of any sport. There are always some restrictions. Our state restricts our wrestling coaches so that they cannot show moves after season prior to the dead period, but they can run open mats and exercise the competitors. Our state allows for showing moves after the dead period, but does not allow the use of the wrestling matts. Yes it would be nice if this was changed as well, but our coaches should be pushing the wrestlers into other sports anyway. So, if we make this change we are in essence asking wrestling coaches to look out only for wrestling which isn't right and can cause extra joint injuries (wrestling year around will cause this).

Maybe we need to change it to a 1 match rule. I know when football players come out, they cannot even handle one full match, so we need to consider this so an incident doesn't happen. Or, maybe it is the coaches responsibility to either get the competitors ready or bench them so they do not get hurt.

So, it wouldn't make sense to change the 5 match rule? I mean, why cost these teams a weekend? Not to mention the extra action at other tournaments during regular season. Wouldn't it be nice if, at the Dragon, the person placing 7th/8th wasn't just a first round loser? Elimination of that rule would allow for this. You are correct that Tournament Directors could stop the 5 match rule from being a big issue, but for the purpose of all around competition for everyone, eliminating the 5 match rule would be great. Not to mention the question of why? Why do we need to limit wrestlers to compete in only 5 matches in one day? Has there been an issue, since the elimination of dehydration for weight cutting, with someone being so exhausted from 5 matches that it became dangerous for them to wrestle the 6th match?

Yes it does which is why most college football coaches watch for wrestling skills and offer better scholarships to athletes that do both. The problem is that some football coaches believe they can better enhance their athletes in the off season. They beleive that weight loss is a bad thing (like they don't gain it back plus a lot more) and that muscular endurance is not necessary only power training. Oh well, it is the loss of both programs and the athletes.

Look at www.khsaa.org for his name 5 years ago as that would have made him 18. Do some research!

Kyle destroyed a kid the first round at the central regional this weekend! Oh, and anyone that knows him ought to ask him about Ohio girls and which university he plans to attend and why.

:-o, Your ignorance is becoming annoying. BTW, the state brackets are built so that the person who stays in the winning bracket the longest has the most benefit.

I have already agreed on the 5 match rule. However; your understanding of the body's water absorbtion process needs work. The water starts being absorbed while still in your mouth. Your body can be completely re-hydrated (unless totally dehydrated at a hospital level) within the 5-10 min. allowing for the 15 min. match rule to work very easily.

At that age, I wrested a freestyle match, walked off that mat and directly on to another match to wrestle another match. I also wrestled 8-10 matches in a tournament most weekends (freestyle) and can remember in cadet state having only 15 min. before my finals match. If the kids work hard enough in practice and eat right, they shouldn't be overly exhausted. I know as a coach, my wrestlers wrestled many many hard matches in one 3 hour practice.

I may have been too rough on Johnny earlier. He was a very talented wrestler. I was just very disappointed in his not being able to wrestle his senior year. Since I do not know all the specifics to his situation, I should have made the statement that he wasn't dedicated enough. Hopefully whatever happened has made him a better person who will support the wrestling community for years to come.

When running a tournament using a program (to save time), the program requires the bout to be submitted before it starts timing the 45 min. Then it will print the bout only after that 45 min. is up. So, the tournaments have to take breaks or whatever so the printing can get caught up. That is why there are always the breaks in tournaments that everyone groans about.

What did Johnny place in Fargo? Just going doesn't cut it.

I think there should be no such thing as a 5 match rule. I wrestled far more than that in a day and it wasn't a problem. Heck, wrestlers perform far more matches in one practice than that. I also think they should change the 45 min. rule into a 15 min. rule. Wrestlers should be able to get their energy/wind back in 15 min. If they cannot, maybe they need to think about: a) losing less weight! training harder.

I see Courtney as winning quite easily. He was dedicated to the sport which is why he was able to wrestle all four years. This didn't seem to be the case for Wolsiefer.

This drives me nuts! People in this state whine because our state's wrestler's are not recognized enough and because we don't have enough wrestling tournaments and because enough teams haven't picked up the sport, then they whine about driving a lowly 90 minutes to get to a tournament and wait on wrestling. The wrestlers in other states haven't become good because they sit at home on a Saturday or only go to the meets that are close. They hit all the wrestling events they can and wait all they need to in order to get that one extra match that may put them over the top. My kids are 4 & 6 years old and we have travelled (on multiple occasions) over 3 hours to end up with just an exhibition match. Heck, we hit a tournament in Florida while on vacation. So, quit whining and find a way! Help out to make things better, set up your own local tournament / club / whatever your area needs, and be supportive, not a whiner. Heck, I thought whining wasn't allowed in wrestling!

This drives me nuts! People in this state whine because our state's wrestler's are not recognized enough and because we don't have enough wrestling tournaments and because enough teams haven't picked up the sport, then they whine about driving a lowly 90 minutes to get to a tournament and wait on wrestling. The wrestlers in other states haven't become good because they sit at home on a Saturday or only go to the meets that are close. They hit all the wrestling events they can and wait all they need to in order to get that one extra match that may put them over the top. My kids are 4 & 6 years old and we have travelled (on multiple occasions) over 3 hours to end up with just an exhibition match. Heck, we hit a tournament in Florida while on vacation. So, quit whining and find a way! Help out to make things better, set up your own local tournament / club / whatever your area needs, and be supportive, not a whiner. Heck, I thought whining wasn't allowed in wrestling!

You realize that the there are only 80 wrestler's pre-registered and there will be over 700 wrestlers competing. You will have plenty in your age/weight grouping. I promise.

You do realize that the NCAA is seeded by an independent organization that gets paid very well, right? Also, the top four seeds in a small 12 man tournament typically takes 2 hours to seed. And that is only with the possible 12 - 16 teams. The state tournament, with 70 teams and 32 man brackets seeding to 8 places will easily take 24 hours (3 full 8 hour days).

If you are already qualified, you do not have to. However, if you desire good competition and to do well, you may want to.

And you think seeding will make that happen? I have been to many, many, many tournaments and the probability that the 1st and 2nd seed make it to the finals and wrestle each other has been at best 60%. If we look at our current state structure, we are probably already reaching that same statistic. Thus, I still do not see a need for seeding. All it does is tell the regional placers that their placement doesn't make a difference, and it adds a whole bunch of trouble / expense throughout the season to keep the best and most accurate records from which to seed. Or, it adds the trouble of about a 3 day seeding meeting for the coaches (not sure any AD in the state would be willing to pay for their teacher/coach to be out that long).

Central Regional is this weekend in Columbus, OH. Get the details or register online at: http://www.themat.com/events/default.php?page=info&EventID=19986 Currently 11 states are pre-registered!