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    Still a number of teams with incomplete or unposted weight assessments.  So still a LOT of question marks on weight.  The first couple weeks with a number of dual competitions also leave question marks as a number of kids are wrestling up to fill out lineups.  So I say it takes until Christmas before we have a decent view on how many of these weight classes will shake out.

    There have already been a few results, but not much is reflected here, but I would assume we will start to see some movement after next week and definitely after the Raider Rumble in 2 weeks.

    Rankings_22_23_1126.pdf

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    21 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:

    Am I seeing this correctly?  Is there no Ervin in the rankings this year?   The last time there was not an Ervin in the state tournament was 2002. 

    Since 1977 there has been at least one Ervin at the Wrestling state tournament except in the years. 1978, 79, 83,84,86,87,88,89,95,96,97,98,99,00,01,02.

    There are team that have not had as few years without a wrestler at the state tournament. 

    I don't see an Ervin on the roster.  Looks like we won't have an Ervin competing this year thus ending that streak.  They have had an amazing run and I'm sure we will see more in the future.

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    29 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

    How crazy is it that a team could have 2 champs and 4 in the finals and end up 4th? There has been many teams win it with that. 

    That is pretty crazy.  But the margin I have calculated from 1st to 4th is pretty small.  Also, it is quite crazy to think there are other teams with:

    Paducah Tilghman - 3 champs, 5 top 3

    Johnson Central - 4 top 3, 7 top 5

    Trinity - 3 champs, 4 finals

    All 4 teams have the potential to be really, really close.

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    The season is officially here!  In celebration of October 15 here are the final "Pre" season rankings as we kick off high school practices.  Over the coming weeks we will get a much better view of weight classes as team complete their assessments. 

    A few notes as we begin the 2022-23 wrestling season ...

    1) Will Union County continue their streak?  They have reloaded like every other year, but there are a handful of teams bringing a squad with the potential to knock them off.  Paducah Tilghman will begin the year at the top of the rankings with Johnson Central close behind (note I have less info on JC than any of the other contenders).  Trinity has the firepower to score with Union as well.  The cinderella story of the season could be Great Crossing.  Still a young program, Coach Murdock has put together a deep lineup that has the potential shock the state.

    2) We are returning almost half of the state champs and state runner-ups.  We have a couple weights where it appears as though a bunch of these guys will converge.  That could make for some excitement when we get to the money rounds.

    3) well I'm getting too old and forgot what my other note was going to be.  oh well.

    Rankings_22_23_1015.pdf

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    17 hours ago, tiltfor3 said:

    Results?

    https://www.facebook.com/DifferentBreedP/videos/494038719256743/

    Yes, go back and check out the video on Alex Green's Facebook page.  He did a fabulous job on the stream.  Really appreciate him traveling all the way in for the event.  Everyone should check out his State Championship review series.

    Overall, a tremendous event.  Mike Sullivan had a perfect setup in the venue at Legends and there was awesome energy throughout the night.  I have heard a LOT of positive feedback and appreciate all of the kind words from coaches, parents, and fans.  We had a full house and saw a lot of very competitive matches; most of the matches that ended with falls were very tight battles up to the end.

    Just a few words on the bouts...

    Kellett over Lehman (injury default) - good battle back and forth until the injury happened; all indications are that Ayden is fine

    Harris over Banfield (pin) - Banfield came out fast and looked slick on his feet, but Harris pushed the pace and it got to Banfield

    Herron over Schweitzer (dec) - good back and forth match trading takedowns, but Herron was just a little better in this one

    Strayer over Burchett (pin) - recovering from summer surgery and right off the football field the bigger Strayer had the edge

    Birk over Valera (pin) - proving to be the top dog Birk was a little too much, but Valera showed he isn't quite as far behind as we thought

    Krebs over Kubwimana (pin) - Kubwimana led most of the way before a wild scramble changed things late

    Wimberly over Bertin (pin) - these guys let it fly from the opening whistle; not what I expected at 215, but that was a fun scrap

    Isaacs over Armentano (pin) - one of the more decisive wins on the night, but we could see this one again a few times late in the season

    McCloskey over Cano (dec) - very exciting, tight match that came right down to the end

    Faucett over Dingus (pin) - crazy, crazy match; late scratch by Ferree resulted in Faucett coming out of the stands to fill the opening; Dingus seemed in control until a late exchange put him on his back

    Reeves over Benner (dec-OT) - really, really exciting match; Rowdy went up late, but Reeves stormed back to force OT and won it with a takedown in OT

    Davis over Vega (dec) - points were hard to come by as these guys have wrestled each other a lot this summer; hated to see it decided on a stalling point

    Meyer over Hardin (dec) - definitely expect to see this one again late in the bracket at state

    Johns over Kellett (dec) - good, hard battle; I wasn't sure how much Kellett would have in the tank after a tough prelim; he competed well, but Johns was just a little better

    Harris over Herron (pin) - Harris solidified himself as the favorite at 150 with an MOW performance

     

    There were a number of pins, but a number of those were by the guy losing the match on late comebacks or in very competitive matches.  Will be interesting to see how these matchups are previews of big time matches late in the season.

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    1 hour ago, grappler-of-old said:

    I am pretty certain that no sport gives tickets to all head coaches if their team is not in the state tournament.  Many of the high schools may pick up the tab for the passes, but no KHSAA.

    It would also be hard for me to believe that if a college coach requests tickets from KHSAA that they would be told they have to pay for them.  I may be wrong.  As for how they were treated.  I have no idea what happened.  The venue we have had the last 2 years is very tight.  Restricting who can be on the actual floor seems reasonable to me.  Now if we are talking about the dreaded Horse Park then there is plenty of room for college coaches to wander around the floor area.  

    Good point that space is fairly tight at GRC.  But my guess is this is an issue that the KYWCA could help work out with KHSAA.  Similar to the officials seating area I'm sure some space could be found for a dozen or so chairs to accommodate college coaches hospitality.

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    3 minutes ago, WVhighlander said:

    Oh no what happened to Kiser. I was hoping to see him at 190. Strayer is a great kid so congrats to him though. 
     

    You have to have this during football season every state I know does this during football season. You would Not have anyone able to do it if you wait till wrestling season except small teams without full line ups. The rest of us have to get matches for the whole team. 
     

    Also timing is good. A week before super 32. Now it would be nice if we get more kids doing national events. 

    I won't share any personal information about Kiser, but nothing major.  Just needs to address it before the season.

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    2 hours ago, Nkawtg said:

    I think you, and people like you, who push and push to make Kentucky wrestling a year round endeavor are hurting the sport in general. Your sons seem to have excelled and done well in the sport. Good for you and them. Maybe they didn’t play other sports?  Maybe they didn’t like football?  I don’t know. But doing this All Star event in Oct just takes away from the wrestlers who do other fall sports. Your attitude towards anyone questioning anything you do just reveals your “little man syndrome.”

     

    I love the sport. My kids are in college and med school so I have no skin in the game. Play the victim all you want. 

    Whatever dude.  If you love the sport so much then actually do something more productive than your worthless posts about how horrible people like me are for the sport.  Statements like that show exactly how truly ignorant you are about the topic.

    If you want to continue this nonsensical tangent regarding this event destroying the foundation of Ky wrestling, start another thread. 

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    Well, let's think about this for a second.  There are essentially 2 reason for criticism.  One is to provide constructive feedback and help improve.  Two is to just be a pain.  Given your level in really getting involved and helping this event I feel pretty safe in assuming you aren't all that interested in the first option.  The Union situation has been covered.  Timing is fairly simple as well; football is busy starting in mid July so should we do this in June? 

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    Quite an interesting view of our wrestling world.  Our only hope for survival is conflict.  I prefer to have a more positive outlook.  If we can instead work together to generate more interest in the sport and yes, even sometimes working with people and agendas we don't always agree with, that we might actually be able to grow the sport a little.

    Speaking of coaches association, I was the president of the MS association for a number of years.  Tim Lange from Oldham County was doing a great job before me, but I decided rather than just be a keyboard hero with all of the criticism and doing little of the work, I ran for the office and feel like myself along with John Roth and Adam Lantman did a pretty darn good job of helping build MS wrestling in the state.  Tyler Baines took over after and did a fantastic job as well.  I didn't agree with everything the board did to change things up, but they did what they thought was best and I wasn't willing to be in there making something else happen, so in my opinion the last thing I should do is publicly criticize the guys doing all the hard work.

    The bottom line is this.  Yes it is a public forum and people are virtually free to say whatever they want behind the screen.  But conflict just for the sake of conflict is pretty dumb to me.  And to be honest that is what will likely eventually run me away from this.  This site likely represents 90% of the conflict in my life and maybe 1% of the value added.  Maybe the people who know me and all that I have going on are on to something when they ask why in the world I continue to do this.  I'll tell you why.  It is the private messages I regularly receive of appreciation.  The kids, parents, and fans who take it for what it is and not a reason to be mad at the world.

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    3 hours ago, Old wrestler said:

    I too am a little confused as to why we are unable to provide feedback. In fact, not too long ago, we had several people on this board call out the KHSAA, coaches association, etc. and that was infinitely more aggressive than this scenario. While I appreciate the effort Ranger has invested in to Kentucky wrestling, he is not immune to feedback. 

    There is a difference between providing feedback and just being a pain in the backside.  Another major difference is the the KHSAA guys are collecting a big fat paycheck to provide a service for our kids.  I have volunteered hundreds of hours a year on this stuff for the last 20+ years.  If someone wants to shoot me a pm and really discuss ideas for improvement I am 100% open to it.  It happens nearly every day.  Open fishing for an argument about "leaving out" Union County or the timing is not trying to do anything constructive for wrestling in the state.

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    7 hours ago, Nkawtg said:

    Nah. It’s still a free country. I’m just asking simple questions. What’s the beef Jason has with Union County and why have this match in the middle of football season?

    It's not all that complicated.  As I have said before and if you took a few minutes to research LOTS of Union County kids have been invited to this over the years.  They have chosen not to participate.  Reach out to Robert Ervin and he will confirm there is absolutely no beef.  As for pushing it back another month?  How about this.  If we push it back just another week the season has officially started and this becomes a scrimmage or possibly at an even later date an official weigh in for each of these teams.  Imagine how that goes over trying to get all of the coaches and teams to accommodate this event in the schedule for possibly 1 kid.  Yeah, that's likely not happening.  Not sure what Flo being national has to do with anything.  If kids are playing football, kids are playing football.  And yes a good number of national level kids are playing football.  And you know what?  Even flo has some top ranked kids turn them down and you know what they do?  They still show up and have the event.

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    12 hours ago, Nkawtg said:

    Kind of silly to say you’re trying to put #1 versus #2 when Union Co isn’t involved isn’t it?  Why have this literally in the middle of football season?

    All I can say is if you want to do something better knock yourself out.  Flo literally just did the same thing in the middle of football season and I've seen a couple other states as well.  Not sure when a better time would be.  Maybe you can hold your event in April?  And Union is what Union is.  They have many top guys, but if they choose not to participate the rest of the state isn't going to just lay down and quit. 

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    With all the matches finalized and we can start thinking about some of these battles, I have to give a few big thank yous to some guys who have helped a ton over the years and continue to support the event this year.

    Chad Greenwell has helped with fliers and great graphics

    Joe Burroughs is always the largest donor each year; one of the best all around coaches to walk the planet who has been critical to the growth of FCA wrestling in Ky.  Everyone should check out FCA camp each summer and the No-Ox wrestling club.

    Isaac Knable another faithful supporter of the event.  Check out Invicta wrestling club and the Footwork trainer.

    This year Nathan Boston and the ETC crew really proved to be the key in reviving the All Star classic

    Mike Sullivan at Legends stepped up huge this year with the facility and handling all of the gear

    And finally, if you are looking for a place to grab a bite to eat while in Louisville, my favorite burger spot in the world is WW Cousins on Dupont.  Owned by a great wrestling guy Marty Johnson (father of Trent and Josh).