Ranger123

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  1. 1 minute ago, pin4thewin said:

    If they can still change their weights then that seems like all the more advantage they are recieving. If john doe is wrestling 144 all year but then bumps up to 150 for regionals, then kids from regions that haven't had the meeting will be able to change weights knowing which gives them the best path.

    while that is technically accurate, anyone sitting around waiting for region brackets to pick their weight class isn't likely winning a title.  and with the semi-state weekend in the middle, bumping up a weight at the last second is very iffy just because a path "looks" better.


  2. 3 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:

    Would that give us enough time to get the qualifier in? 

    2 things.  As I was posting rankings I realized I think I had the date wrong on the Trinity dual event.  It may have been Jan 21 as well.  Either way I think it could work.

    But yes.  Using a Saturday for the qualifier is nonsense.  We could easily use weeknights in December and beginning of January to knock out those matchups.


  3. A lot of excitement and movement in the rankings since the last update.  I don't think I can recall anywhere near this much chaos in the 20+ years I've been doing this.  As soon as I think I've found the weight that is the biggest disaster I shortly find another with an even bigger mess.  Last night I literally was looking at a 9-10 way mess of kids who all beat each other.  CRAZY.  Add to that 3 new #1s this week and tons of shakeups in the placer spots.

     

    - On the team side, Union continues to extend their projected lead.  They showed their dominance at state duals.  That semis win over Larue (a really good team) was scary.

    - It will be interesting to see how the team dynamics play out with Region 1 being SO tough and Semi-state 1-4 being much deeper than 5-8.  I don't think it affects Union a ton, but may impact the other trophy teams.

    - At 113 we have the wonderful A beat B beat C beat A at the top of the rankings for spots 1-3.  I gave the nod to the returning state runner-up for now.

    - New #1 at 132 as Trumble beats Reeves at the Dragon (also a battle of teams who are struggling to keep track up to date)

    - New #1 at 215 as Silva beats Price in a dual on 1/21 and then Price beats Adams at state duals

    - Wrestler of the week is Lane Kiser the new #1 at 190.  Deciding he didn't like that weight cut all the way down to 175 and moves back to a more comfortable 190 and pins #1 Virzi and gets 2 wins over #3 Mettling.

    - Question:  What is the deal with all of the forfeits entered on track.  I know we often have inexperienced computer operators, but there are dozens and dozens of match results listed as a forfeit between 2 kids.  Makes it really hard to know if a match actually happened or not.

    Rankings_22_23_0203.pdf


  4. Good points GOO.  Maybe let's go with 2nd week of Jan and 4th week.  Most teams already have a placeholder for state duals for the last week of the month.  The Dragon is a firmly established great in state event.  Let's not mess with that.  So 2nd week becomes Divisional state duals weekend.  Trinity already held a tough dual event that appeared to be open for a number of the top teams.


  5. 1 hour ago, plantmanky1 said:

    Its a shame there is not another week in the schedule you could make this a 2 weekend event.   Weekend 1 wrestle for division championships.  Weekend 2, top 4 in each division wrestle in an overall championship. 

     

    Just a thought

    I could get on board with that.  Then 3 divisions top 4 from each creates a second 12 team event.  That could be a fire event where every round has excitement.  3rd and 4th weekends of January.


  6. 18 minutes ago, grappler-of-old said:

    One way to solve the 9-24 brackets is a pool to bracket tourney.  I know that is not how the boys do it, but they do it in the Olympics.  A 24 girl weight class can be done with no 5 match rule problems. Over 24 that's another animal. 

     

    There we go GOO.  Good thinking.


  7. 13 hours ago, 385 said:

    If you guys here want to take away from smaller schools for the sake of viewing pleasure then by all means go ahead. The people on this forum certainly have the power to do so. Not sure what stands to be gained from it though.

    I am at one of the smaller schools that sponsor wrestling in the state.  And while I agree there are things to be gained by having divisions, everyone has to agree there is a line.  To say Ohio has 3 divisions as an discussion point for why we should have 3 begs the response for total number of schools participating at which point there is no comparison.  Being at one of the smallest schools, I am not in favor of creating more divisions just so I can qualify and bring a trophy back to the school.  I thought the 1A state duals were great.  Mostly because we got the opportunity to face off with Union.  If Union decided to "move up" to 2A or 3A it would have been a different story.


  8. 3 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

    The jv team takes a loss while the varsity was beating Father Ryan (#1 AA team in Tenn). I just think it should be as fair as possible. We can’t go change the past, but we can fix it this year. 

    So we get to pick and choose which varsity matches count and which don't?  Yes, Union County is by far the best team on paper in the state and likely most of the midwest.  I think they should be nationally ranked.  But for this event this weekend we have an established criteria and it was used to seed the event.  Simple.


  9. 2 minutes ago, coachteater said:

    Unfortunately during both seed meetings a mistake was made in placement of 2nd place finishers. The pools have been redrawn and are accurate now. 

    I apologize and take responsibility for this mistake. We will be taking steps to update bylaws and have all procedures in writing so this doesnt happen in the future.

    Again, I apologize. 

    Scotty Teater 

    Kywca President 

    No big deal.  All fixed.  Hopefully, everyone now realizes you can't just let the computer randomly draw the teams in.


  10. 40 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

    It’s just hilarious that a jv loss is being counted as a varsity loss. It’s Larue, Caldwell, Ft Campbell, and Nelson that get screwed in the deal. 

    Go look at last year's state duals setup and then tell me who got screwed.  

     

    The 2's get drawn in. Hard to see how Caldwell, FT Camp, and Nelson are affected by that seeding.