Ranger123

I'm going to start off my post this week with a brief editorial. How can we expect to increase the suppport of our sport and grow interest if we don't support it ourselves. This weekend was one of the better meets of the regular season, the 5 star classic, which featured 4 of my top 10 teams and numerous highly ranked individuals. BUT, as far as I can see, received absolutely no media coverage. At a minimum there should be a piece in the box scores if not an article discussing the great matchups, including top out-of-state competition. But no, we blow a chance to get our kids names in the paper and the recognition they deserve. I guess it is more important to save that space for the early rounds of the Australian Open or local bowling league scores. OK. Not many changes this week. Shake-ups at 135 and 140. Larue has moved into a dead heat with South Oldham for #2. As usual, thanks for all of the input and enjoy! 103 Way Co Travis Sullivan Un Co Adam Carr Wood Co Shane Parks Tri Dan Smith Whit Co Dalton Evans NO Andre Zeppa PD Jon Voth Lar Co Tritsten Hines Sen Elliott Martin Bull Cen Badgett Mc Cen Daniel Bowling SK Robbie Vaughn Ryle Casey Chitwood FC Tommy Warren SO Paul Huhnke Con TJ Bates Scott Steve Supe Cam Co Priscila Brownfield And Co Ben Joseph NH Brandon Wilder 112 Wood Co Coty Lewis JC Cory Spencer Eas Joaquin Luna Un Co Chance Puckett Way Co Coty Vinsant HC Matt Zarth Lar Co Lucas Carmen CH Mason Bradbury NH Josh Johnson NO Antonio Zeppa Doss Alan Marksbury Cam Co Korey Shotwell Scott Gabe Supe Tri Jacob Barton PRP J. Higgs SO Steve Vaughn Mon Co Ross Carpenter-Frasier Con Matt O'Bryan FC Josh Burkett Sou Patrick Lile 119 FC Caleb Wood PD Tyler Voth SO Daniel Murner Wood Co John Smith Old Co Eric Warner JH Justin Pitcher Un Co Isaac Ervin Sen John Chui And Co Clayton Stocker Way Co Bryan Daniels Cald Co Tanner Leach St X Nick Norwood Mc Cen Derek Corder SK Dusty Brown PRP Corey Mills Cam Co Talon Deinlein Hop Brian Toliver Lar Co Darwin Perez Sou Wes Corbin NO Thompson 125 SO Derek Scott Old Co Ben Warner Mc Cen Eric Bryant JH Cassidy Veach Lar Co Stacy Miller St X Tyler Baines NH Matt Eck Har Co Jacob Kendall Con Rashad Brown Laf Ryan Traylor FC Derek Branch Eas Bobby Suell Fair Mike Seeders Sou Louis Ashley Moore Crayton McCain PRP Don Phillips Sen Dan Fuller Ryle Corey Rahe Des Mack Poole Per Co Cen Charles Turner 130 Lar Co Ozzy Parker Ryle Bryan Peace SC Brandon Howard Cam Co Ben Rust Tri Mike Bowlds Wood Co Steven Butler FC Malcolm Jackson Har Co Bryan Wasson Eas Paul Marks Cald Co Marcus Coleman Chr Co Jake Skinner NO Tom Kusnir Des Meirnan Maguire Scott Don Graven St X Luke Wortley Moore Justin Smith JC Jammie Kestner Sen Zach Poulton SO Taso Theoatrous Per Co Cen Alfred Collins 135 Law Co Jacob Murton JC Anthony Patrick TC Nick Griggs Lar Co Matt Miller Tri Ben Case Har Co Josh Ashbrook Wood Co Chad Scott SO Cody Hall Chr Co Cameron Bibbs Con Ryan Dillon NH Chris Range FC Tyler Weldon Scott Chad Ryder AB Trace Stafford Des Tommy Mckenna Cen A. Glover St X Cory Kress Sen Darren Jennings Fr Co Ryan Tingle Eas Blake Kraft 140 Scott Daniel Thueneman Ft Camp Matt Mines Hol John Golsby Laf Nick Coomer Jeff Aubrey Hayes Lar Co Evan Smith Sou Joe Powers FC Kevin Stewart Ohio Co Wesley Kiper Fr Co Phillip Jones Un Co Miles Risinger Har Co Beau Sanders And Co Jacob Spaulding PD Mark Goldfarb HC Nick Cooper NH Jerry Ledford Bal David Burks Cam Co Brandon Dennison Sen Ricky Wright Cen Cory Knox 145 Wood Co Harrison Courtney SK Josh Cooper Lar Co Patrick Banks Ryle Rob Aylor Cam Co Brian Wilson Un Co Mitch Ervin FC Ben Barger SO Bryan Ford St X Chip Condon Vall Daniel Rader PD Nick Quigley DH Bob Woods Way Co Tim Winchester Cen Eddrick Beasley Tri Alex Shearer NH Johnivon Oggs Jeff P. White JH Anthony Felli TC Jamal Mohammed Bal Mike Armstrong 152 SK Austin Cooper FC John Wolsiefer Lar Co Scott Wheeler Cald Co Cody Traylor Way Co Joey Sanders Sen Shandon Hooper Wood Co Justin Mays DH Brad Denham TC Shane Young Har Co Ryan Ross NH Ty Wolf CH Joe Collin Cam Co Tom Brownfield Con Taylor Casson SO Ben Greco Tri Allen Tomassetti Hol Nik Webb Mc Cen Randy Vanover Ryle Eric Valdez Man Yeremy Krivoshey 160 Wood Co Chad Fyffe Cam Co Jacob Hildreth DH Tony King Lar Co Bryant Barnhill Cald Co Cody Walls SO Andrew Taylor Per Co Cen Tim Jones Sen Travis Poulton Tri Alan Reuff PD Rob Baumgardner SC Adam Dials Sou Josh Meredith CH Brian Roberts SK Brandon Kirk Mc Cen Randall Stevens JH Chris Pitcher HC Chris Alexander Moore James Schneider St X Neil Greenwell FC Alex Weiss 171 Wood Co Will Starks NH Mark Jones Eas Ben Rupp Har Co Gary Doyle AB Cody Zacur SC Ryan Kelly SO Ryan Houchens PD Sheridan Likoy Lar Co Kyle Carmen Tri John Florence Whit Co Jaron Singley And Co Robert Dillhoff Ryle Mason Reid Sen Matt White St X Billy Coots Fair Galwyn Harris Vall Ben Risen Scott Hudson Rison Old Co Peter Golemboski FC Kyle Hardin 189 Wood Co Richard Starks Old Co Alex Wenninger Ryle Greg Ashworth Mc Cen Jacob Watson HC Zack Guiler Lar Co Jake Shipp Apollo Matt Green FC Deon Chaney Tri Grant Laswell PD Douglas Winter Scott Michael Haught SO Cameron Hartman CH Terry Turner Vall Joe Raleigh DH Steve Benson Hend Co Bryson Hatchett Doss Brandon Carter And Co Matt Franklin TC Adam Griggs Bal Lane Ackman 215 SO Taylor Scherer Wood Co Matt Byrd Con Dale Stone Old Co Daniel Martinko Eas Aaron Wise Lar Co Joe Embree NH Steven Dow Har Co Travis Aubrey Mc Cen Tanen Roe SC Justin Chaffin Sen Jordan Dockery Des Reinhold Leicht Doss Derrick Nickel SK Josh McDaniel AB Andrew Dillon JH Jesse Kerrison Dun Hunter Eade Cam Co Billy Fuller Tri Dillon Hollin Cen R. Wesley 275 Tri Mike Clark Wood Co Kyle Goodrich Pad Til Bryan Hall Ohio Co Adam Burdin CH Daniel Craig PRP Jason Hardin SO Kirk Alwardt Un Co Robert Dunn Fair Robby Brown Old Co Josh Young New Devon Boxx Scott Adam Patterson NH Matt Ballinger Cen Corey Peters SC Jon Wells Mc Cen Chris Espinoza Vall Will Smith Ft Knox Anthony Bailey Way Co Brandon Bell Des John Wise 1 Woodford County 2 Larue County 3 South Oldham 4 Fern Creek 5 Trinity (Louisville) 6 Union County 7 Oldham County 8 Ryle 9 Campbell County 10 North Hardin 11 Harrison County 12 Wayne County 13 Sheldon Clark 14 Paul Dunbar 15 Eastern 16 Simon Kenton 17 Johnson Central 18 Caldwell County 19 McCreary Central 20 Seneca

oghrdz1212 - the current 112 rankings for these guys are based a lot on the Jeff Co. tournament. Coach Coomes sent out the brackets to all coaches (thanks Coach Coomes!!!). Burkett is now at 103. Lile lost to Higgs in the consilations and Marksbury turned it on. Big tournament results carry a lot more weight with me.

A very exciting week in the world of KY wrestling. The WCI lived up to the hype (as usual) with a number of matchups between highly ranked wrestlers: 103 #3 vs #4 112 #1 vs #3 119 #2 vs #3 125 #1 vs #3 140 #1 vs #2 171 #1 vs #2 189 #1 vs #2 215 #1 vs #2 Not to mention 3 of the top 4 teams in the state! All of that said, not much changed at the top of the charts (excluding Murton changing weights and Byrd getting healthy) except at 125. I have included the records of those wrestlers who were in the finals at WCI (as they were announced). I have also extended the list to the top 17 at each weight. Next week I will hopefully have 20 guys at each weight that I am comfortable with ranking. Please continue to provide feedback as the more guys I include on the list the greater chance I will miss a dual result that could affect the order. ENJOY!!! 103 Way Co Travis Sullivan Un Co Adam Carr Wood Co Shane Parks 24-0 PD Jon Voth 19-3 Tri Dan Smith Whit Co Dalton Evans Sen Elliott Martin FC Tommy Warren SO Paul Huhnke Ryle Casey Chitwood NO Andre Zeppa And Co Ben Joseph NH Brandon Wilder Con TJ Bates Scott Steve Supe Cam Co Priscila Brownfield Mc Cen Daniel Bowling 112 Wood Co Coty Lewis 13-0 JC Cory Spencer Eas Joaquin Luna 20-2 Un Co Chance Puckett Way Co Coty Vinsant NO Antonio Zeppa HC Matt Zarth CH Mason Bradbury NH Josh Johnson Cam Co Korey Shotwell Sou Patrick Lile Scott Gabe Supe SO Steve Vaughn Con Matt O'Bryan FC Josh Burkett Ryle Andrew Isler Mon Co Ross Carpenter-Frasier 119 FC Caleb Wood PD Tyler Voth 21-0 SO Daniel Murner 15-6 Wood Co John Smith Old Co Eric Warner JH Justin Pitcher Un Co Isaac Ervin Sen John Chui And Co Clayton Stocker Lar Co Lucas Carmen Way Co Bryan Daniels Cald Co Tanner Leach Sou Wes Corbin PRP Corey Mills Cam Co Talon Deinlein St X Nick Norwood SK Dusty Brown 125 SO Derek Scott 18-0 Mc Cen Eric Bryant Old Co Ben Warner 28-1 JH Cassidy Veach Wood Co Rusty Parks Lar Co Stacy Miller St X Tyler Baines Con Rashad Brown NH Matt Eck Har Co Jacob Kendall Sen Dan Fuller Eas Bobby Suell Fair Mike Seeders FC Derek Branch Sou Louis Ashley Moore Crayton McCain Vall C. Rader 130 Lar Co Ozzy Parker Ryle Bryan Peace Cam Co Ben Rust Tri Mike Bowlds Wood Co Steven Butler 20-4 FC Malcolm Jackson 22-3 Cald Co Marcus Coleman Har Co Bryan Wasson AB Trace Stafford Eas Paul Marks Scott Don Graven Sen Zach Poulton SO Taso Theoatrous Sou Hunter Durden Way Co James Kilburn JH Shane Warren And Co Shane Carey 135 Law Co Jacob Murton 15-3 Har Co Josh Ashbrook SC Brandon Howard Lar Co Matt Miller Tri Ben Case SO Cody Hall 13-7 Wood Co Chad Scott Chr Co Cameron Bibbs NH Chris Range Sen Darren Jennings Fr Co Ryan Tingle Eas Blake Kraft NO Tom Kusnir Fair Jake Kruetzer Laf Carlos Gomez Ft Camp Rob Caracillo FC Tyler Weldon 140 Scott Daniel Thueneman 19-2 Sou Joe Powers 14-3 Har Co Beau Sanders Ft Camp Matt Mines FC Kevin Stewart Hol John Golsby Lar Co Evan Smith Ohio Co Wesley Kiper Fr Co Phillip Jones Ryle Clint Hovecamp Un Co Miles Risinger Jeff Aubrey Hayes Laf Nick Coomer PD Mark Goldfarb TC Nick Griggs And Co Jacob Spaulding HC Nick Cooper 145 Wood Co Harrison Courtney 24-0 SK Josh Cooper Cam Co Brian Wilson Ryle Rob Aylor Lar Co Patrick Banks Un Co Mitch Ervin Way Co Tim Winchester FC Ben Barger 25-3 SO Bryan Ford Chr Co Cory Armstrong Vall Daniel Rader PD Nick Quigley DH Bob Woods Tri Alex Shearer NH Johnivon Oggs JH Anthony Felli Man Yeremy Krivoshy 152 SK Austin Cooper FC John Wolsiefer 26-0 Lar Co Scott Wheeler Cald Co Cody Traylor Way Co Joey Sanders NH Ty Wolf Sen Shandon Hooper 22-3 Wood Co Justin Mays SO Ben Greco TC Shane Young Har Co Ryan Ross CH Joe Collins Cam Co Tom Brownfield DH Tony King Tri Allen Tomassetti Con Taylor Casson Hol Nik Webb 160 Wood Co Chad Fyffe Lar Co Bryant Barnhill DH Brad Denham Cald Co Cody Walls Cam Co Jacob Hildreth SO Cody Lasigne/Andrew Taylor SC Adam Dials Sen Travis Poulton 21-3 PD Rob Baumgardner Sou Josh Meredith CH Brian Roberts SK Brandon Kirk Mc Cen Randall Stevens JH Chris Pitcher HC Chris Alexander FC Alex Weiss Eas Brian Banbury 171 Wood Co Will Starks 19-0 Eas Ben Rupp 20-3 Har Co Gary Doyle SC Ryan Kelly Sen Matt White NH Mark Jones SO Ryan Houchens PD Sheridan Likoy Lar Co Kyle Carmen And Co Robert Dillhoff Ryle Mason Reid St X Billy Coots Scott Hudson Rison Old Co Peter Golemboski FC Kyle Hardin Moore Ethan Dunn Cald Co Curt Martin 189 Wood Co Richard Starks 26-0 Old Co Alex Wenninger 24-1 Ryle Greg Ashworth Tri Grant Laswell Mc Cen Jacob Watson HC Zack Guiler PD Douglas Winter Lar Co Jake Shipp Apollo Matt Green FC Deon Chaney Scott Michael Haught Whit Co Jaron Singley SO Cameron Hartman DH Steve Benson Hend Co Bryson Hatchett Doss Brandon Carter And Co Matt Franklin 215 SO Taylor Scherer 17-1 Wood Co Matt Byrd 3-1 Con Dale Stone NH Steven Dow Lar Co Joe Embree Old Co Josh Young Eas Aaron Wise Har Co Travis Aubrey Mc Cen Tanen Roe SC Justin Chaffin Doss Derrick Nickel Sen Jordan Dockery CH Terry Turner Cen Jake Westley SK Josh McDaniel AB Andrew Dillon JH Jesse Kerrison 275 Tri Mike Clark Wood Co Kyle Goodrich 24-1 Pad Til Bryan Hall Ohio Co Adam Burdin CH Daniel Craig SO Kirk Alwardt 16-4 New Devon Boxx Fair Robby Brown Scott Adam Patterson NH Matt Ballinger Cen Corey Peters SC Jon Wells PRP Jason Hardin Mc Cen Chris Espinoza SK Andrew Damico Ft Knox Anthony Bailey Cam Co Billy Fuller 1 Woodford County (new team score record) 2 South Oldham 3 Larue County 4 Fern Creek 5 Trinity (Louisville) 6 Harrison County 7 Union County 8 Ryle 9 Oldham County 10 Wayne County 11 Sheldon Clark 12 Campbell County 13 North Hardin 14 Seneca 15 Paul Dunbar 16 Caldwell County 17 Conner 18 Eastern 19 McCreary Central 20 Simon Kenton

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that too. Harrison is on the outside looking in for now. And why does hosting get you into the tournament. If that's the case let's let Frankfort and Franklin Co. have automatic berths to the state tournament.

Pappy - I have to disagree with the #3. Yes, Harrison finished higher at the 5 star, but with that format you can't totally believe the team scores. South Oldham had Campbell Co in their pool vs John Hardin for Harrison, not exactly equal competition. Head to head I definitely give the advantage to South Oldham. Also, go back a couple weeks and South Oldham dominated the Conner tournament (including Harrison). But I agree with all else. It should be a great dual tournament. Exciting re-match between Woodford and Larue in the finals. But a lot of work and tough teams to beat to get there.

So where did he finish at TCI?

colonel130 - thanks!

For those of you who do not appreciate my weekly rankings, I have developed something more scientific. I know there has been discussion on here before about what region is the toughest. And people have looked at the number of placers by region and top teams just to name a couple of methods. Well, this is something that has my interest as well and I believe some re-alignment is in order, but we will save that for another day. For your information, I am a true numbers guy. I have a degree in Statistics and spend my days working with numbers and using historical data to make predictions about what will happen in the future. That said, I think the best way to evaluate the strength of the 8 regions is state tournament scoring. All regions are on a level playing field with the opportunity to send the 4 best competitors at each weight class. This actually gives the weaker regions a slight advantage as tougher kids may finish 5th in a hard region. But, the regions that put up the most points should be the toughest. I only have good results for the past 6 years (I adjusted the scores using statistician magic for the years before the field was expanded to 32), but here is what I have found: Points Region 6 3,105 Region 7 2,617 Region 5 2,149 Region 2 2,087 Region 4 2,035 Region 8 2,012 Region 1 1,810 Region 3 947 Region 6 has been the dominant region with Campbell Co., Ryle, Simon Kenton, Conner, Scott, and Dixie Heights scoring in the top 25. Next is Region 7 with Woodford Co., Henry Clay, and Dunbar in the top 20. Region 5 has South Oldham, Eastern, Fern Creek, and Oldham Co. in the top 25. Region 3 only has 3 teams in the top 35 (PRP #29, Desales #30, and Valley #32). I think this shows a lot of evidence that Region 3 is not on par with the other regions. I am not saying there are no good wrestlers in western Jefferson County, but the guys are not pulling their weight when they get to Frankfort. Of course many people will make the argument that some regions are skewed because of the success of one team, such as Woodford Co. in Region 7. So I re-calculated the point totals eliminating the top team in each region and the results are very similar. Region 2 has the largest drop-off (without Larue Co.) and Region 1 moves up due to its balance. Again Region 6 is the dominant region and Region 3 lags behind. Points Region 6 2,108 Region 7 1,467 Region 5 1,393 Region 1 1,347 Region 8 1,341 Region 4 1,220 Region 2 1,184 Region 3 756 So I next eliminated the top 2 teams in each region with the same results. Points Region 6 1,439 Region 1 990 Region 7 953 Region 5 935 Region 8 853 Region 2 843 Region 4 625 Region 3 576 And again with the top 3 eliminated. Points Region 6 804 Region 1 794 Region 8 679 Region 7 635 Region 2 520 Region 5 538 Region 3 409 Region 4 140 The bottom line is Region 6 is the cream of the crop from top to bottom (tough for me to say growing up and wrestling in Region 7 country) and Region 3 needs some help. As of now, it does look like Region 6 has come back to the pack for this season and Region 7 looks tough. Unless some guys really step up in the next month, Region 3 will again trail the pack. Region 7 590 Region 5 581 Region 2 466 Region 6 403 Region 1 339 Region 8 338 Region 4 239 Region 3 91

KYVA84 - I don't know. That's the sort of thing that I rely on you guys to tell me. Thanks!

So Spencer has decided to drop?

Not too bad for a down year in Region 6. Right now, 3 teams in my top 16 (Ryle #8, Campbell Co. #9, Simon Kenton #16).

I just wanted to clarify my comment. I wasn't specifically pointing out Trinity and St X. I don't think those guys seek special treatment at all. I just think those closest to coach Coomes seem to get a lot of attention.

I agree as well, but my point was that he has a better shot at 130, though slim.

My guess is that Howard's goal is to win, not place 2nd.

chief - I'll give you the top couple of guys are really, really good at 130, but come on, let's be realistic. They are not Jacob Murton. And I'm not saying he is unbeatable. I'm just saying 999 out of 1000 matches he's going to win easily. Not so for Parker and Peace.

pld - before last year Harrison stunk it up in Frankfort. Last season was the first time that they really put up any points. I did coach in this state for a few years. That experience hasn't given me a lot of respect for the KWCA. From what I can tell it is an organization in name only. It really accomplishes very little and is doing nothing to contribute to the growth of wrestling in KY. eville - as far as my methodology, it depends on what you are trying to gauge. My intent was to show if the regions are balanced historically. In any given year there will be fluctuations (region 6 is down a little this season, but still darn good). But over a number of years, which should actually be longer than 6, are the strength of the regions reasonably balanced. I would say not even close. Based on this, it looks like Region 6 is sending #3 and #4 seeds that are winning a lot of matches and probably leaves a lot of #5 guys at home that could have pulled at least a #3 in other regions.

Someone else said that Griggs won 135 @ TCI. Still looking for reliable results from TCI.

git'r'done - I knew about Howard, but wanted to give him another week of starving to see if he stays.

SK has a tournament that is coming up this weekend and Dixie holds one in early Feb.

That's a change. I was in the coaches association for over 2 years and never saw a single email from Coomes. Maybe my input wasn't as important as the guys from Trinity and St X and the like even though I was a paying member head coach.

wrestler05, I think Southern will be more of a force than St X or Central.

Not to discount their chances this year (though I think Woodford will be unstoppable in February) he may have his best opportunity for that team title next year.

bulldog - don't forget Austin Cooper @ 152

I with you pioneer. I didn't see him, but from what I hear, Trice was one of the best without argument. And that's what it took to pull off that sort of feat (a freshman winning at a higher weight class). Add to that the competition at 145 this year. But Courtney has a lot of work to do this year and the next 3.

Does anyone know who the following have lost to? Cody Hall (South Oldham 135) - 6 losses before Murton Joe Powers (Southern 140) - 2 losses before Thueneman Kirk Alwardt (South Oldham 275) - 3 losses before Goodrich