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Yes, I plan to continue doing this next year. Hopefully, we'll continue to make improvements on the flow of information like we have over the last couple of months. I have talked to some coaches who plan to help out with that in the future. legrider - I dropped Fyffe because he was far from impressive at the state duals, especially when the pressure was on against Larue. Plus, Walls has been outstanding lately. Potentially, you are right about Sanders and Sheehan, but they have to prove themselves on the mat. Unfortunately, they'll probably have to wrestle in the semis this weekend, but if they beat Coomer in the finals we'll see what happens. On Luna vs Vinsant, I think Vinsant won 4-3 at state duals, at least that's what I saw in the Wayne Co paper.

I know these rankings are perfect (HA!HA!HA!). But for the sake of argument, what do you think are my 3 biggest mistakes or guys/teams that will prove me wrong by next weekend? Larue? Aylor? Wood? Hardin?

My point was why even go there? Why even propose the idea that maybe she only won because Alaska may be below average in wrestling talent. That goes against the idea of promoting girls in the sport by saying it could happen in a weak state but don't waste the time in a "real" state.

First of all, I want to congratulate Larue County on a fantastic victory this weekend. That was the best dual meet I have ever witnessed as a spectator. The Larue kids really stepped up to the plate and came through under all of the pressure. I was also impressed with Woodford County fighting back after being down 31-3. They almost pulled off the impossible comback against a great team. Because of such a gutsy performance in such a tense situation, you will notice these kids have moved up a bit. At 103, not much has changed. At 112, Carmen has moved up after challenging Lewis and beating Zarth. One of the biggest changes is at 119, where Voth takes over the #1 slot. With Wood's injury, I think Voth will be too tough. Also, Perez wrestled well to move up. At 125, no change. The next big change is at 130, where Jackson was awesome this weekend. He showed that he is back from his injury with some huge wins. I know he has lost to other guys earlier in the season, but he was tough Saturday. No change at 135 or 140. Banks controlled Courtney and takes over the #1 spot. No change at 152. Fyffe didn't handle the pressure well in the Larue match and Walls has been impressive, so a new #1. No major changes at 171, 189, 215, or 275. The teams have shuffled a bit, but no team moving up or down more than a couple spots. With so much action and no real reporting of individual matches, I am sure I missed some matchups between ranked kids or ranked kids losing to unranked kids. As usual, just let me know what I missed. One last note on the great final matchup at the state duals. In the prior 16 state dual championship matchups, the average margin of victory was about 19. Less than half have even been close enough where a two match swing would have made a difference (8 were decided by more than 20 points, 4 by more than 30 points). Expanded to top 23: 103 Way Co Travis Sullivan Un Co Adam Carr JC Cory Spencer Wood Co Shane Parks PD Jon Voth NO Andre Zeppa Tri Dan Smith Lar Co Tritsten Hines Whit Co Dalton Evans Sen Elliott Martin Bull Cen James Badgett SK Robbie Vaughn Mc Cen Daniel Bowling Ryle Casey Chitwood FC Josh Burkett Con TJ Bates Scott Steve Supe Cam Co Priscila Brownfield Ft Knox Arthur Ohmes And Co Ben Joseph NH Brandon Wilder PRP Nick Reichmuth JH Alex Dudley 112 Wood Co Coty Lewis Un Co Chance Puckett Way Co Coty Vinsant Eas Joaquin Luna Lar Co Lucas Carmen HC Matt Zarth CH Mason Bradbury NH Josh Johnson NO Antonio Zeppa Scott Gabe Supe PRP Josh Higgs Doss Alan Marksbury Sou Patrick Lile Tri Jacob Barton Ryle Andrew Isler Mon Co Ross Carpenter-Frasier SO Steve Vaughn Hend Co Bryce Alexander Cam Co Korey Shotwell Har Co Trevor Maxwell Laf Korey Rose Ft Camp Wes Bird Sen Jeff Warra 119 PD Tyler Voth FC Caleb Wood SO Daniel Murner Un Co Isaac Ervin Lar Co Darwin Perez Wood Co John Smith Old Co Eric Warner JH Justin Pitcher Sen John Chui And Co Clayton Stocker Way Co Bryan Daniels Cald Co Tanner Leach St X Nick Norwood Laf Nathan Speck PRP Corey Mills Hop Brian Toliver CH Ross Engle Mc Cen Derek Corder Bal Kendrick Jones SK Dusty Brown Cam Co Talon Deinlein HC Cliff Cornett Bou Co JP Rivera 125 SO Derek Scott Old Co Ben Warner Mc Cen Eric Bryant Lar Co Stacy Miller JH Cassidy Veach St X Tyler Baines NH Matt Eck Har Co Jacob Kendall Con Rashad Brown Un Co Jake Wempe Laf Ryan Traylor Way Co Jordan Burnette Eas Bobby Suell FC Derek Branch Fair Mike Seeders Sou Louis Ashley Moore Crayton McCain PRP Don Phillips Sen Dan Fuller Des Mack Poole Per Co Cen Charles Turner SK Zach McGuffey SC Steven Marcum 130 Lar Co Ozzie Parker FC Malcolm Jackson Ryle Bryan Peace SC Brandon Howard Tri Mike Bowlds Cald Co Marcus Coleman Wood Co Steven Butler Har Co Bryan Wasson Cam Co Ben Rust Eas Paul Marks NO Tom Kusnir Ohio Co James Parritt Des Meirnan Maguire Chr Co Jake Skinner St X Daniel Miller Scott Don Graven Moore Justin Smith JC Jammie Kestner Sen Zach Poulton Per Co Cen Alfred Collins Bull Cen Chris Pearson SO Taso Theoatrous Sou Hunter Durden 135 Law Co Jacob Murton JC Anthony Patrick Har Co Josh Ashbrook TC Nick Griggs Lar Co Matt Miller Tri Ben Case Wood Co Chad Scott Chr Co Cameron Bibbs Cen Anthony Glover SO Cody Hall Fr Co Ryan Tingle Con Ryan Dillon AB Trace Stafford FC Tyler Weldon Des Tommy Mckenna Sen Darren Jennings Eas Blake Kraft Scott Chad Ryder NH Chris Range Cam Co Kyle Griffith SK Ben Winkler SC Eric Musick Ryle Travis Horton 140 Scott Daniel Thueneman Ft Camp Matt Mines Hol John Golsby Sou Joe Powers Un Co Miles Risinger Laf Nick Coomer Lar Co Evan Smith FC Kevin Stewart Jeff Aubrey Hayes Har Co Beau Sanders Wood Co Blake Sheehan Fr Co Phillip Jones PD Mark Goldfarb St X Cory Kress HC Nick Cooper NH Jerry Ledford And Co Jacob Spaulding TC Donnell Davis Bal David Burks Cam Co Brandon Dennison Moore Justin Johnson Sen Ricky Wright Cen Cory Knox 145 Lar Co Patrick Banks Wood Co Harrison Courtney SK Josh Cooper Ryle Rob Aylor Un Co Mitch Ervin Cam Co Brian Wilson SO Bryan Ford St X Chip Condon FC Ben Barger Way Co Tim Winchester Vall Daniel Rader Har Co Corey Ward Ft Camp Rob Caracillo Cen Eddrick Beasley PD Nick Quigley Tri Alex Shearer DH Bob Woods And Co Sammy Isaacs Jeff Phillip White PRP C. Layman Sen Beau Gadegaard JH Anthony Felli NH Johnivon Oggs 152 SK Austin Cooper FC John Wolsiefer Lar Co Scott Wheeler Cald Co Cody Traylor Way Co Joey Sanders DH Brad Denham CH Joe Collin Sen Shandon Hooper Wood Co Justin Mays TC Shane Young Har Co Ryan Ross Con Taylor Casson SO Ben Greco Tri Allen Tomassetti NH Ty Wolf Man Yeremy Krivoshey Cam Co Tom Brownfield Mc Cen Randy Vanover Cen John Thomas Ryle Eric Valdez Ft Knox Kendrick Shaw Hol Nik Webb Hend Co Michael Helsley 160 Cald Co Cody Walls Wood Co Chad Fyffe Cam Co Jacob Hildreth DH Tony King Lar Co Bryant Barnhill Per Co Cen Tim Jones Sen Travis Poulton PD Rob Baumgardner SC Adam Dials Ryle Clint Hovecamp Sou Josh Meredith Mc Cen Randall Stevens Scott Hudson Rison SO Andrew Taylor SK Brandon Kirk Ft Knox Bryce Barrientos HC Chris Alexander Moore James Schneider St X Neil Greenwell Tri Alan Reuff JH Chris Pitcher CH Brian Roberts FC Cody Mann 171 Wood Co Will Starks NH Mark Jones Eas Ben Rupp Har Co Gary Doyle SC Ryan Kelly AB Cody Zacur PD Sheridan Likoy Lar Co Kyle Carmen Ryle Mason Reid Tri John Florence SO Ryan Houchens Scott Michael Haught Sen Matt White Whit Co Jaron Singley And Co Robert Dillhoff St X Billy Coots Vall Ben Risen Old Co Peter Golemboski Fair Galwyn Harris FC Kyle Hardin Cen Adam Collier Cald Co Curt Martin Con TJ Shinkle 189 Wood Co Richard Starks Old Co Alex Wenninger Mc Cen Jacob Watson Lar Co Jake Shipp Apollo Matt Green FC Deon Chaney Tri Grant Laswell Ryle Greg Ashworth HC Zack Guiler PD Douglas Winter SO Cameron Hartman CH Terry Turner Vall Joe Raleigh DH Steve Benson Cam Co Sam Alford Chr Co Mark Payne Hend Co Bryson Hatchett Doss Brandon Carter And Co Matt Franklin TC Adam Griggs Bal Lane Ackman Con Zac Brewer Way Co Cody Mink 215 SO Taylor Scherer Wood Co Matt Byrd Con Dale Stone Old Co Daniel Martinko Eas Aaron Wise Lar Co Joe Embree Har Co Travis Aubrey Des Reinhold Leicht Sen Jordan Dockery NH Steven Dow Mc Cen Tanen Roe SC Justin Chaffin AB Andrew Dillon Doss Derrick Nickel Ryle Steve Bodenbender Un Co Richard Coleman Bal Navee Safi And Co Zach Burford Tri Dillon Hollin Ft Camp Zach Rinestine Cam Co Billy Fuller JH Jesse Kerrison Cen R. Wesley 275 Tri Mike Clark Wood Co Kyle Goodrich PRP Jason Hardin Pad Til Bryan Hall CH Daniel Craig Un Co Robert Dunn SO Kirk Alwardt Ohio Co Adam Burdin Old Co Josh Young Fair Robby Brown New Devon Boxx Cen Corey Peters Scott Adam Patterson SC Jon Wells Mc Cen Chris Espinoza Vall Will Smith Ft Knox Anthony Bailey NH Matt Ballinger Way Co Brandon Bell Har Co Austin Murdoch TC Nathan Gray Des John Wise St X Zach Purol

Jimmy - so you're telling me that Richard Starks' dominance has been in spite of his extreme weakness. And it must be extreme because you pointed out that he wasn't just "not as strong as you", but one of the weaker guys you wrestled. I really find that hard to believe. You would think that at some point that would have caught up with him.

RHCP - takes away from it? Why don't you walk out after the state finals and let the winners know that they only won a KY state championship; it's not like they won in Ohio or Pennsylvania. Or better yet, those guys that didn't even walk away with a medal. Or let your friend (I say that because I think you're from Ryle) Kyle Ruschell know that his state titles don't really count because they were in KY. Come on. Give the girl her credit.

grappler - I agree with you for the most part. The problem is that I don't think Coach Coomes gets much more input from coaches than I do from looking at the papers and team websites. And I will give some kids/parents/coaches/fans credit as I get info on losses as well.

Wow! I didn't realize that Griffith was already back at that level. Stock just went through the roof.

I assume Valdez has beat Denham if you're giving him the #2?

I'll try to get a few responses into one post. I didn't see the brackets for Christian Co and these guys didn't place so I had no knowledge of the result. 135 (much like 125) has been complete chaos in Jefferson Co. Every meet brings a completely different order of finish. I gave Glover the credit for a strong finish at the Dragon. I now have the message that McKenna has beat him twice and will adjust accordingly. Regarding results from the state duals, blame coaches and others for not releasing any results. I was there for the last couple of rounds, but could only take in so much info. I have tried to get as many head to head matchup results as possible (and thanks a ton to those who have helped!!!), but the response has been minimal. It is up to you guys to pass on the info.

Ridge - I agree Peters could do well, but I haven't seen the results to prove it. I know he has lost to you, Clark, and Josh Young.

I wouldn't say no one thought Banks had a chance. I think many have said that 145 will be a tough one with 5 or 6 guys have a legit shot at it. I would agree that there were not too many people ready to put their $ on Banks until after the duals (yours truly included). The draw will mean everything in this weight class.

if one of the first things you do in the morning (and last thing at night) is check this site for new postings. if you and your wife have a standing date to watch the state finals together. if your children get their first headgear and wrestling shoes before their first bike (insert favorite toddler item).

I was thinking more like Rob Aylor. A defending state champ who could step it up in Frankfort.

Murner is #3 behind two guys who have beat him. Banks is #1. Can't get much more respect than that.

OOOPPPSS! I forgot the teams... Team 1 Woodford County 2 Larue County 3 South Oldham 4 Union County 5 Fern Creek 6 Trinity (Louisville) 7 Harrison County 8 Oldham County 9 Wayne County 10 Paul Dunbar 11 Ryle 12 Eastern 13 North Hardin 14 Caldwell County 15 McCreary Central 16 Simon Kenton 17 Seneca 18 Campbell County 19 Scott 20 Sheldon Clark 21 Central Hardin 22 Johnson Central 23 St. Xavier 24 Conner 25 John Hardin 26 Pleasure Ridge Park 27 Dixie Heights 28 Southern 29 Tates Creek 30 Fort Campbell

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously after posts like that? I agree those are some good wrestlers, but better than Murton, Scherer, Austin Cooper, to name a few? Give me a break.

Lot's of good competition this week lead to some shake-ups in the rankings. Also, want to say thanks to all of the coaches running tournaments this weekend. It looks like all of the results were distributed/shared appropriately. 103 Way Co Travis Sullivan Un Co Adam Carr JC Cory Spencer Wood Co Shane Parks PD Jon Voth NO Andre Zeppa Tri Dan Smith Whit Co Dalton Evans Lar Co Tritsten Hines Sen Elliott Martin Bull Cen James Badgett SK Robbie Vaughn Mc Cen Daniel Bowling Ryle Casey Chitwood FC Josh Burkett Con TJ Bates Scott Steve Supe Cam Co Priscila Brownfield Ft K Arthur Ohmes And Co Ben Joseph 112 Wood Co Coty Lewis Eas Joaquin Luna Un Co Chance Puckett Way Co Coty Vinsant HC Matt Zarth Lar Co Lucas Carmen CH Mason Bradbury NH Josh Johnson NO Antonio Zeppa Scott Gabe Supe PRP Josh Higgs Doss Alan Marksbury Laf Korey Rose Cam Co Korey Shotwell Ryle Andrew Isler Sou Patrick Lile Tri Jacob Barton SO Steve Vaughn Mon Co Ross Carpenter-Frasier Hend Co Bryce Alexander 119 FC Caleb Wood PD Tyler Voth SO Daniel Murner Wood Co John Smith Old Co Eric Warner JH Justin Pitcher Un Co Isaac Ervin Sen John Chui And Co Clayton Stocker Way Co Bryan Daniels Cald Co Tanner Leach St X Nick Norwood Mc Cen Derek Corder PRP Corey Mills Cam Co Talon Deinlein Hop Brian Toliver Lar Co Darwin Perez Bal Kendrick Jones SK Dusty Brown HC Cliff Cornett 125 SO Derek Scott Old Co Ben Warner Mc Cen Eric Bryant JH Cassidy Veach Lar Co Stacy Miller St X Tyler Baines NH Matt Eck Har Co Jacob Kendall Con Rashad Brown Un Co Jake Wempe Laf Ryan Traylor Eas Bobby Suell FC Derek Branch Fair Mike Seeders Sou Louis Ashley Moore Crayton McCain PRP Don Phillips Sen Dan Fuller Des Mack Poole Per Co Cen Charles Turner 130 Lar Co Ozzie Parker Ryle Bryan Peace SC Brandon Howard Tri Mike Bowlds Cald Co Marcus Coleman Wood Co Steven Butler FC Malcolm Jackson Cam Co Ben Rust Har Co Bryan Wasson Eas Paul Marks NO Tom Kusnir Ohio Co James Parritt Des Meirnan Maguire Chr Co Jake Skinner St X Daniel Miller Scott Don Graven Moore Justin Smith JC Jammie Kestner Sen Zach Poulton Bull Cen Chris Pearson 135 Law Co Jacob Murton JC Anthony Patrick TC Nick Griggs Lar Co Matt Miller Tri Ben Case Har Co Josh Ashbrook Wood Co Chad Scott Chr Co Cameron Bibbs Cen Anthony Glover SO Cody Hall Fr Co Ryan Tingle FC Tyler Weldon Con Ryan Dillon AB Trace Stafford Des Tommy Mckenna Sen Darren Jennings Eas Blake Kraft Scott Chad Ryder NH Chris Range Cam Co Kyle Griffith 140 Scott Daniel Thueneman Ft Camp Matt Mines Hol John Golsby Sou Joe Powers Un Co Miles Risinger Laf Nick Coomer Lar Co Evan Smith FC Kevin Stewart Jeff Aubrey Hayes Ohio Co Wesley Kiper Har Co Beau Sanders Wood Co Blake Sheehan Fr Co Phillip Jones PD Mark Goldfarb St X Cory Kress HC Nick Cooper NH Jerry Ledford And Co Jacob Spaulding TC Donnell Davis Bal David Burks 145 Wood Co Harrison Courtney SK Josh Cooper Lar Co Patrick Banks Ryle Rob Aylor Un Co Mitch Ervin Cam Co Brian Wilson SO Bryan Ford St X Chip Condon FC Ben Barger Vall Daniel Rader Har Co Corey Ward Way Co Tim Winchester Ft Camp Rob Caracillo Cen Eddrick Beasley PD Nick Quigley Tri Alex Shearer DH Bob Woods And Co Sammy Isaacs Jeff Phillip White PRP C. Layman 152 SK Austin Cooper FC John Wolsiefer Lar Co Scott Wheeler Cald Co Cody Traylor Way Co Joey Sanders DH Brad Denham CH Joe Collin Sen Shandon Hooper Wood Co Justin Mays TC Shane Young Har Co Ryan Ross Con Taylor Casson Tri Allen Tomassetti SO Ben Greco NH Ty Wolf Man Yeremy Krivoshey Cam Co Tom Brownfield Mc Cen Randy Vanover Cen John Thomas Ryle Eric Valdez 160 Wood Co Chad Fyffe Cald Co Cody Walls Cam Co Jacob Hildreth DH Tony King Lar Co Bryant Barnhill Per Co Cen Tim Jones Sen Travis Poulton PD Rob Baumgardner Ryle Clint Hovecamp Sou Josh Meredith SC Adam Dials Mc Cen Randall Stevens Scott Hudson Rison SO Andrew Taylor SK Brandon Kirk Ft Knox Bryce Barrientos HC Chris Alexander Moore James Schneider St X Neil Greenwell Tri Alan Reuff 171 Wood Co Will Starks NH Mark Jones Eas Ben Rupp Har Co Gary Doyle AB Cody Zacur SC Ryan Kelly SO Ryan Houchens PD Sheridan Likoy Lar Co Kyle Carmen Ryle Mason Reid Tri John Florence Scott Michael Haught Sen Matt White Whit Co Jaron Singley And Co Robert Dillhoff St X Billy Coots Vall Ben Risen Old Co Peter Golemboski Fair Galwyn Harris FC Kyle Hardin 189 Wood Co Richard Starks Old Co Alex Wenninger Mc Cen Jacob Watson Lar Co Jake Shipp Apollo Matt Green FC Deon Chaney Tri Grant Laswell Ryle Greg Ashworth HC Zack Guiler PD Douglas Winter SO Cameron Hartman CH Terry Turner Vall Joe Raleigh DH Steve Benson Cam Co Sam Alford Chr Co Mark Payne Hend Co Bryson Hatchett Doss Brandon Carter And Co Matt Franklin TC Adam Griggs 215 SO Taylor Scherer Wood Co Matt Byrd Con Dale Stone Old Co Daniel Martinko Eas Aaron Wise Lar Co Joe Embree Har Co Travis Aubrey Des Reinhold Leicht Sen Jordan Dockery NH Steven Dow PD Hunter Eades Mc Cen Tanen Roe SC Justin Chaffin AB Andrew Dillon Un Co Richard Coleman Doss Derrick Nickel Ryle Steve Bodenbender Bal Navee Safi SK Josh McDaniel And Co Zach Burford 275 Tri Mike Clark Wood Co Kyle Goodrich PRP Jason Hardin Pad Til Bryan Hall CH Daniel Craig Un Co Robert Dunn SO Kirk Alwardt Ohio Co Adam Burdin Old Co Josh Young Fair Robby Brown New Devon Boxx Cen Corey Peters Scott Adam Patterson SC Jon Wells Mc Cen Chris Espinoza Vall Will Smith Ft Knox Anthony Bailey NH Matt Ballinger TC Nathan Gray Des John Wise Team 1 Woodford County 2 Larue County 3 South Oldham 4 Trinity (Louisville) 5 Fern Creek 6 Union County 7 Oldham County 8 Ryle 9 Wayne County 10 Harrison County 11 Paul Dunbar 12 Eastern 13 Simon Kenton 14 North Hardin 15 Campbell County 16 McCreary Central 17 Seneca 18 Caldwell County 19 Scott 20 Sheldon Clark 21 Johnson Central 22 Central Hardin 23 St. Xavier 24 John Hardin 25 Conner 26 Southern 27 Pleasure Ridge Park 28 Tates Creek 29 Dixie Heights 30 Henry Clay

I agree that Harrison should be higher, but they haven't been totally consistent this season. Plus they have to prove they can do it in on the big stage. Now on Oldham County I have to disagree. Their heavyweights have been on a tear recently (Wenninger, Martinko - finally healthy, I think, and Young) and Warner is tough at 125. Warner should win some matches at 119 and if Morlatt makes it back I think they will be challenging for a top10 spot.

BigCoach - I have to agree on the points. Without Parks, they I think they will fall short (nice how that gave me an excuse to be wrong). BUT, I do think that both Woodford and Larue will be knocking on the door of mid-200's to win the tournament. And yes, you can interpret that as me saying Larue is for real and will challenge for the title. But I think those two will score a lot of points (assuming the draws are too horrible). What I saw on Saturday night was a lot of Larue kids stepping up to the plate and handling the pressure and some Woodford kids looking a little shaky and in less than the best of condition under the pressure. What a great setup for Frankfort.

Happy - you get my vote for the greatest post ever!

A couple of weights that I will be watching are 130 and 171. At 130 9 of my top 10 will be competing and at 171 11 of my top 13. That should provide for some exciting wrestling. Of course, strategy may mess some of that up with weight class shifting. The weakest classes look like 140 (only 3 top 10) and HWT (only 4 top 10). But those guys are still scoring team points and will play a big role in the outcome of some of these duals.

I have expanded the rankings to the top 20 at each weight class. And I will admit that #15-20 at a few weights is pretty questionable. But that just gives us more to talk about on the forum. Anyway, I was out of town this past weekend and the results were less than detailed, so let me know if I missed anything. 103 Way Co Travis Sullivan Un Co Adam Carr Wood Co Shane Parks PD Jon Voth Tri Dan Smith Whit Co Dalton Evans Sen Elliott Martin FC Tommy Warren Ryle Casey Chitwood NO Andre Zeppa Bull Cen Badgett Con TJ Bates SO Paul Huhnke Scott Steve Supe Mc Cen Daniel Bowling Cam Co Priscila Brownfield And Co Ben Joseph NH Brandon Wilder PRP Nick Reichmuth Ft K Arthur Ohmes 112 Wood Co Coty Lewis JC Cory Spencer Eas Joaquin Luna Un Co Chance Puckett Way Co Coty Vinsant NO Antonio Zeppa HC Matt Zarth CH Mason Bradbury NH Josh Johnson Doss Alan Marksbury Cam Co Korey Shotwell Scott Gabe Supe Lar Co Tritsten Hines Tri Jacob Barton PRP J. Higgs Sou Patrick Lile SO Steve Vaughn Mon Co Ross Carpenter-Frasier Con Matt O'Bryan FC Josh Burkett 119 FC Caleb Wood PD Tyler Voth SO Daniel Murner Wood Co John Smith Old Co Eric Warner JH Justin Pitcher Un Co Isaac Ervin Sen John Chui Lar Co Lucas Carmen And Co Clayton Stocker Way Co Bryan Daniels Cald Co Tanner Leach St X Nick Norwood SK Dusty Brown PRP Corey Mills Cam Co Talon Deinlein Hop Brian Toliver Sou Wes Corbin Vall C. Rader Scott Ethan Miller 125 SO Derek Scott Old Co Ben Warner Mc Cen Eric Bryant JH Cassidy Veach Wood Co Rusty Parks Lar Co Stacy Miller St X Tyler Baines Con Rashad Brown NH Matt Eck Har Co Jacob Kendall Laf Ryan Traylor Eas Bobby Suell FC Derek Branch Moore Crayton McCain Sou Louis Ashley Sen Dan Fuller Fair Mike Seeders Ryle Corey Rahe Des Mack Poole SC Marcum 130 Lar Co Ozzy Parker Ryle Bryan Peace Cam Co Ben Rust Tri Mike Bowlds Wood Co Steven Butler FC Malcolm Jackson Cald Co Marcus Coleman Har Co Bryan Wasson AB Trace Stafford NO Tom Kusnir Eas Paul Marks Des Meirnan Maguire Scott Don Graven Moore Justin Smith Sen Zach Poulton SO Taso Theoatrous Sou Hunter Durden Way Co James Kilburn JH Shane Warren And Co Shane Carey 135 Law Co Jacob Murton Har Co Josh Ashbrook SC Brandon Howard Lar Co Matt Miller Tri Ben Case SO Cody Hall Wood Co Chad Scott Chr Co Cameron Bibbs NH Chris Range Con Ryan Dillon Scott Chad Ryder FC Tyler Weldon Des Tommy Mckenna Cen Glover Sen Darren Jennings Fr Co Ryan Tingle Eas Blake Craft Fair Jake Kruetzer Laf Carlos Gomez Ft Camp Rob Caracillo 140 Scott Daniel Thueneman Har Co Beau Sanders Ft Camp Matt Mines Hol John Golsby Lar Co Evan Smith Jeff Aubrey Hayes Sou Joe Powers FC Kevin Stewart Ohio Co Wesley Kiper Fr Co Phillip Jones Un Co Miles Risinger Laf Nick Coomer PD Mark Goldfarb TC Nick Griggs And Co Jacob Spaulding HC Nick Cooper NH Jerry Ledford Bal David Burks Cam Co Brandon Dennison JC Anthony Patrick 145 Wood Co Harrison Courtney SK Josh Cooper Cam Co Brian Wilson Ryle Rob Aylor Lar Co Patrick Banks Un Co Mitch Ervin Way Co Tim Winchester FC Ben Barger SO Bryan Ford St X Richard Condon Vall Daniel Rader PD Nick Quigley DH Bob Woods Cen Eddrick Beasley Tri Alex Shearer NH Johnivon Oggs JH Anthony Felli Man Yeremy Krivoshy TC Jamal Mohammed Bal Mike Armstrong 152 SK Austin Cooper FC John Wolsiefer Lar Co Scott Wheeler Cald Co Cody Traylor Way Co Joey Sanders Sen Shandon Hooper Wood Co Justin Mays DH Brad Denham NH Ty Wolf TC Shane Young Har Co Ryan Ross CH Joe Collins Cam Co Tom Brownfield Con Taylor Casson SO Ben Greco Tri Allen Tomassetti Hol Nik Webb Mc Cen Randy Vanover Ryle Eric Valdez Hend Co Michael Helsley 160 Wood Co Chad Fyffe Lar Co Bryant Barnhill Cald Co Cody Walls Cam Co Jacob Hildreth SO Andrew Taylor SC Adam Dials Sen Travis Poulton PD Rob Baumgardner Sou Josh Meredith DH Tony King CH Brian Roberts SK Brandon Kirk Mc Cen Randall Stevens JH Chris Pitcher HC Chris Alexander Moore James Schneider St X Neil Greenwell FC Alex Weiss Eas Brian Banbury Ryle Clint Hovecamp 171 Wood Co Will Starks Eas Ben Rupp Har Co Gary Doyle SC Ryan Kelly NH Mark Jones SO Ryan Houchens PD Sheridan Likoy AB Cody Zacur Lar Co Kyle Carmen Tri John Florence Whit Co Jaron Singley And Co Robert Dillhoff Ryle Mason Reid Sen Matt White St X Billy Coots Vall Ben Risen Scott Hudson Rison Cen Collier Old Co Peter Golemboski FC Kyle Hardin 189 Wood Co Richard Starks Old Co Alex Wenninger Ryle Greg Ashworth Mc Cen Jacob Watson HC Zack Guiler PD Douglas Winter Lar Co Jake Shipp Apollo Matt Green FC Deon Chaney Tri Grant Laswell Scott Michael Haught SO Cameron Hartman CH Terry Turner DH Steve Benson Vall Joe Raleigh Hend Co Bryson Hatchett Doss Brandon Carter And Co Matt Franklin TC Adam Griggs Bal Lane Ackman 215 SO Taylor Scherer Wood Co Matt Byrd Con Dale Stone NH Steven Dow Lar Co Joe Embree Old Co Daniel Martinko Eas Aaron Wise Har Co Travis Aubrey Mc Cen Tanen Roe SC Justin Chaffin Sen Jordan Dockery Des Reinhold Leicht Doss Derrick Nickel Cen Jake Westley SK Josh McDaniel AB Andrew Dillon JH Jesse Kerrison Dun Hunter Eade Cam Co Billy Fuller Tri Dillon Hollin 275 Tri Mike Clark Wood Co Kyle Goodrich Pad Til Bryan Hall Ohio Co Adam Burdin CH Daniel Craig SO Kirk Alwardt New Devon Boxx PRP Jason Hardin Fair Robby Brown Old Co Josh Young Scott Adam Patterson NH Matt Ballinger Cen Corey Peters SC Jon Wells Mc Cen Chris Espinoza SK Andrew Damico Vall Will Smith Ft Knox Anthony Bailey Way Co Brandon Bell Des Wise 1 Woodford County 2 South Oldham 3 Larue County 4 Fern Creek 5 Trinity (Louisville) 6 Harrison County 7 Paul Dunbar 8 Union County 9 Oldham County 10 Ryle 11 Sheldon Clark 12 Wayne County 13 Campbell County 14 Caldwell County 15 Seneca 16 North Hardin 17 Conner 18 Eastern 19 Simon Kenton 20 McCreary Central

bodylock - The Big East was down this year, so no that didn't show me a lot. Now the Dragon was pretty impressive, even w/o Woodford. But what more are you looking for? They aren't top 2; Woodford and Larue are head and shoulders above everyone else. Maybe you can argue #3 over South, but that's all.

dscicle - first the team rankings are my estimation of state tournament finish, not a dual meet finish. I created a formula to calc a team score based on the rankings. #1 - I know Larue has beaten Woodford. And I know Woodford will be improved this weekend, but so will Larue. Bottom line, if Larue beats Woodford again that doesn't change my team rankings (except to the extent the individual rankings change). Right now, Woodford has too many #1 and #2 guys to lose in Frankfort. #2 - You could be right. I have Trinity, Fern Creek (with Wood back), and Union in a virtual tie for the #4 spot. Regional finishes and the draw will determine the order for these 3. Fern Creek has to deal with South Oldham and Eastern. Trinity basically has Seneca and St. X. Union only has Caldwell. It sounds like advantage Union.