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First of all, a huge thank you to everyone involved in the ranking committee and Coach McCoy for organizing it. Hours and hours of research went into every win and loss on TrackWrestling and the ScoreBook. At first we only planned to rank the top 10, but everyone wanted to include more kids because we felt we owe it to these wrestlers for all the hard work they have put in. The committee is made up of parents, coaches, moderators, and even your favorite sports journalist. The word on the street is Ranger still plans to do his Ranger Report, so keep a look out for that (going on 5 years)! We all owe Ranger a steak dinner for doing this for so long. With that being said, go ahead, rip apart these rankings... See you in Lexington... 106 1. Cody Stephens, McCreary Central, 11, 33-1 2. Jake Burroughs, North Hardin, 10, 45-0 3. Travon Thacker, Hopkinsville, 12, 26-1 4. Joey Scaggs, Dixie Heights, 10, 38-1 5. Jorge Vega, Fern Creek, 10, 42-5 6. Trevor Lawson, Woodford County, 7, 42-5 7. A.J. Bindner, St. Xavier, 9, 25-7 8. Tyler Ward, Apollo, 10, 35-5 9. Brad Krebs, Campbell Co., 9, 38-13 10. David Hernandez, Henry Clay, 11, 28-8 11. Bryce Sheffer, Union Co., 8 29-9 12. Colin Roth, Walton Verona, 11, 33-12 13. Hunter Baum, Lou. Holy Cross, 11, 37-5 14. T.J. Bowen, Johnson Central, 12, 36-17 15. Ansar Kurbanov, Iroquois, 9, 26-9 113 1. Nathan Boston, Woodford Co., 11, 46-0 2. Jason Hall, Moore, 11, 36-3 3. Brady Emerson, Oldham Co., 9, 38-3 4. Luke Rearic, Lafayette, 12, 34-7 5. Robert Dezember, Union Co., 11, 34-8 6. John Hernandez, Henry Clay, 11, 31-8 7. Jeremiah Kline, Trigg Co., 9, 27-3 8. Chris Beeler, Meade Co., 10, 32-5 9. Stephen Maggard, Campbell Co., 11, 30-18 10. Lucas McCain, Boyle Co., 10, 37-8 11. Derek Wiley, Conner, 9, 28-8 12. Zach Phillips, Danville, 10, 38-15 13. Moses Williams, Apollo, 10, 30-7 14. Cameron Nevels, Wayne Co., 9, 42-5 15. Garret McCloud, Johnson Central, 7, 31-8 120 1. Trae Blackwell, Union Co., 11, 30-3 2. Mike Whalen, Henry Clay, 11, 39-2 3. Kyle Steiner, Cooper, 10, 27-6 4. Gus Adams, Ryle, 12, 45-4 5. Caleb Austin, Christian Co., 10, 24-4 6. Keegan Duncan, Trinity, 9, 41-5 7. Bryan Spahr, Campbell Co., 9, 39-15 8. Eli Owens, Simon Kenton, 10, 20-7 9. Max Korfhage, St. Xavier, 11, 13-5 10. Bobby Poynter, Moore, 10, 41-9 11. Kyle Edlin, LaRue Co., 11, 43-14 12. Jon Siler, Whitley Co., 12, 20-1 13. Derek Miller, Tilghman, 9, 46-7 14. Bradley Pokuta, North Hardin, 12, 39-8 15. Connor Jaschen, Hopkinsville, 11, 31-9 126 1. Brock Ervin, Union Co., 11, 41-2 2. Joey Parrott, Simon Kenton, 12, 42-4 3. John Shirkey, Oldham Co., 10, 29-4 4. Brian Crawley, Southern, 12, 34-3 5. Trea Wills, North Hardin, 12, 35-1 6. Angel Vasquez, Lafayette, 9, 33-7 7. Daniel Lannum, Danville, 11, 43-5 8. Nathan Thompson, DeSales, 10, 37-5 9. Hudson Heiderf, Trinity, 9, 34-9 10. Nathan Haddad, St. Xavier, 10, 15-6 11. Geordon Blanton, Johnson Central, 7, 40-4 12. B.J. Miller, Ohio Co., 10, 35-9 13. Jordan Justice, Sheldon Clark, 10, 24-2 14. Wade Beeler, Meade Co., 8, 28-9 15. Isiah Copley, Ashland Blazer, 12, 22-11 132 1. Sean Fausz, Campbell Co., 11, 57-0 2. Kyle Lawson, Woodford Co., 8, 43-1 3. Keegan North, Ryle, 12, 36-9 4. Connor Wilkerson, Oldham Co., 11, 50-2 5. Roderick Agyeman, Franklin Co., 12, 35-5 6. Chris Gilkey, Caldwell Co., 11, 44-3 7. Gabe Ervin, Union Co., 12, 40-8 8. Jesus Rosado, Moore, 12, 7-1 9. Ben Barton, Trinity, 9, 35-12 10. Dylan West, LaRue Co., 9, 46-4 11. Wyatt Overman, Central Hardin, 12, 36-7 12. Clyde Newcomer, Montgomery Co., 12, 50-7 13. Cecil Nevels, Wayne Co., 10, 41-6 14. Chance Lutes, Simon Kenton, 11, 21-9 15. Corey Sanderfer, PRP, 12, 25-11 138 1. Jayce Carr, Union Co., 12, 37-4 2. Paul Hamilton, Campbell Co., 12, 39-6 3. Ian Kahl, Trinity, 11, 41-4 4. Clay Brown, Walton Verona, 11, 41-8 5. Raymundo Perez, LaRue Co., 11, 46-5 6. Kevi Matlock, Christian Co., 11, 25-4 7. Pedro Ruiz, Wayne Co., 12, 45-3 8. David Sahms, Fort Campbell, 12, 46-4 9. Chad Edwards, PRP, 12, 42-2 10. Marques Fleet, John Hardin, 12, 28-6 11. Cody Mardis, Central Hardin, 12, 26-7 12. Drew Harris, Simon Kenton, 12, 24-9 13. Clint Singleton, Eastern, 12, 12-2 14. Nathanial Long, South Oldham, 12, 26-11 15. Josh Jude, Johnson Central, 11, 31-6 145 1. Justin Lampe, St. Xavier, 11, 43-0 2. Kory Polley, Christian Co., 12, 20-2 3. Tevon Clay, Franklin Co., 12, 45-1 4. Jordan Young, Johnson Central, 11, 47-6 5. Jeff Wurth, Union Co., 12, 10-1 6. Corbin Woods, Campbell Co., 12, 35-7 7. Austin Jackson, Dixie Heights, 11, 36-5 8. Jacob Bennett, Ohio Co., 12, 37-7 9. Jon Belk, Ryle, 10, 36-12 10. Kevin Roberts, Simon Kenton, 12, 30-17 11. Andrew Lee, Central Hardin, 12, 40-9 12. Alvaro Aguilar, PRP, 12, 48-4 13. Caleb Barrett, Southern, 10, 21-8 14. Leland Phelps, Male, 10, 32-6 15. Sam Gnadinger, Oldham Co., 10, 30-18 152 1. Kevin Cooper, Simon Kenton, 12, 43-5 2. Dominic Lampe, St. Xavier, 10, 38-5 3. Logan Jones, Walton Verona, 11, 40-8 4. Nick McIntosh, Oldham Co., 12, 33-4 5. Jordan Doyle, Woodford Co., 12, 35-7 6. Kegan Agnew, Caldwell Co., 11, 36-2 7. Clayton Smith, Trinity, 12, 34-14 8. Kyle Bunch, Ohio Co., 12, 2-1 9. Chad Gahafer, Union Co., 11, 39-9 10. Haziel Lopez, Jeffersontown, 12, 29-11 11. Frederick Agyeman, Franklin Co., 11, 41-9 12. Dakota Sloas, Ashland Blazer, 12, 30-9 13. Kent Bachman, Campbell Co., 12, 22-11 14. Christopher Cash, South Oldham, 11, 24-7 15. Cole Overman, Central Hardin, 10, 33-11 160 1. Stephen Myers, Campbell Co., 12, 58-1 2. Gabriel French, St. Xavier 12, 24-4 3. Cameron Montgomery, UHA, 12, 28-2 4. Wyatt Courtney, Woodford Co., 11, 39-6 5. Jimmy Preston, Johnson Central, 12, 44-3 6. Gabe Mcilrath, Montgomery Co., 12, 46-2 7. Mikey Smith, Moore, 10, 1-1 8. Jared Whitlock, LaRue Co., 12, 41-7 9. Jonah Shacklette, Meade Co., 11, 26-10 10. Mitch Rusch, North Oldham, 12, 49-6 11. Jacob Warwick, Conner, 10, 28-8 12. Collin Taylor, Doss, 11, 36-5 13. Sam Schwachter, Scott, 11, 39-13 14. Dallin Tritapoe, Boyle Co., 12, 24-8 15. Brian French, Union Co., 12, 17-12 170 1. Caleb Canter, LaRue Co., 12, 48-0 2. Johnny Meiman, Ryle, 9, 36-7 3. D.J. Parriman, McCreary Central, 11, 31-4 4. Lane Jones, Walton Verona, 12, 44-5 5. Noah Bauer, St. Xavier, 12, 36-10 6. Sean Barrett, Southern, 12, 22-8 7. Alex McIntosh, Oldham Co., 9, 40-11 8. Casey Mink, Wayne Co., 11, 31-8 9. Dustin Turner, Campbell Co., 11, 47-13 10. Brennon Boykin, Eastern, 12, 33-6 11. Ki Ryder, Fort Campbell, 11, 32-7 12. Sam Wilbanks, Moore, 12, 1-1 13. Trevor Fultz, Trinity, 12, 26-8 14. Eric Pina, Franklin Co., 12, 41-10 15. Marlon Torriente, Seneca, 12, 2-2 182 1. B.J. Carman, LaRue Co., 12, 53-1 2. Hiero Chamblee, Simon Kenton, 12, 41-6 3. Eli Matthews, Campbell Co., 10, 50-4 4. Devin Morrow, Wayne Co., 12, 46-2 5. Brandon Pledger, St. Xavier, 12, 34-5 6. Sam Steele, Boone Co., 12, 42-3 7. Evan Kenealy, Meade Co., 12, 32-6 8. Kohl Dodd, Fern Creek, 10, 46-10 9. Addison Deckard, Oldham Co., 12, 34-15 10. Jake Fooks, Bourbon Co., 12, 28-4 11. Curtaz Masack, Louisville Central, 12, 34-14 12. Kenneth Clark, Eastern, 12, 13-2 13. Devin Smith, Union Co., 12, 26-8 14. Collie Taylor, Doss, 12, 34-15 15. Nathan Moore, Henry Clay, 11, 30-5 195 1. Wade Holtsclaw, John Hardin, 12, 30-1 2. Sam Preston, Johnson Central, 12, 47-1 3. Justin McDaniel, Moore, 12, 39-4 4. Thomas Noe, Southern, 12, 35-3 5. Trevor Thompson, Conner, 11, 32-5 6. Alex Hogan, Meade Co., 12, 37-5 7. Konner Thompson, St. Xavier, 12, 31-11 8. Aaron Stevens, Trigg Co., 11, 3-0 9. David Bergman, Simon Kenton, 12, 25-12 10. Will Conrad, North Oldham, 12, 27-8 11. Jordan Willenberg, Louisville Holy Cross, 12, 23-7 12. Elijah Miller, Scott, 10, 36-9 13. Tony Couch, LaRue Co., 11, 40-14 14. Bryan Carter, Union Co., 11, 29-18 15. Josh Staten, McCreary Central, 12, 25-10 220 1. Austin Myers, Campbell County, 10, 54-0 2. Chris Niece, Johnson Central, 11, 47-7 3. Tucker Fair, Madison Central, 12, 22-0 4. Anthony Jennings, Fairdale, 12, 32-2 5. Zach Farris, Ohio Co., 10, 3-0 6. Zack Cooper, Henry Clay, 12, 19-7 7. Cameron Mattingly, John Hardin, 11, 29-2 8. Tanner Adams, Ashland Blazer, 12, 33-4 9. Jason Maine, Ryle, 12, 30-9 10. Cody Reeser, Central Hardin, 12, 21-5 11. Tucker Mueller, Simon Kenton, 9, 36-11 12. Anthony Hamblin, Louisvlle Central, 11, 29-16 13. Nick Skaggs, Fern Creek, 10, 31-5 14. John Crawford, St. Xavier, 12, 24-20 15. Garrett Chandler, Male, 9, 11-5 285 1. Bobby Bryant, Trinity, 12, 36-1 2. Chase Blevins, Johnson Central, 12, 46-3 3. Zach Troxell, Wayne Co., 12, 43-2 4. Mike Caudill, Oldham Co., 12, 18-2 5. Gabe Lord, Fern Creek, 12, 39-7 6. Zack Lawson, Nelson Co., 11, 31-2 7. Cody Miskell, Grant Co., 12, 38-5 8. Raynel Brown, Union Co., 10, 33-12 9. Landon Young, Lafayette, 9, 31-6 10. Matt Daugherty, Central Hardin, 11, 31-5 11. Kristofer Humphrey, John Hardin, 12, 33-7 12. Alec Mielke, Meade Co., 12, 37-7 13. Paul Couch, Madison Central, 12, 23-5 14. Nick Sinclair, Campbell Co., 11, 30-21 15. Jake Jorstad, Fort Campbell, 10, 43-15 (I will update with the tournament team ranking after they get verified)

Wrestling just got a little bump

This isn't meant to be rankings, but a look at the weight classes with the seniors removed. The numbers on the left are the pre-state ranking, and the wrestlers were put in order of actual final state placements.

2012: Stephen Myers 152 lb. from Campbell Co AND Devyn Collins 195lb. from Montgomery Co. Pin in 0:10 2011 2010 2009 Brandon Adams Ryle 17 sec 2008: Mitch Ervin (160, Union County) 4 seconds. 2007: Travis Sullivan (Wayne Co.) :07 Sec. pin 2005: Jason Hardin(PRP) 9 sec 2004: Cody Moy(PRP) 4 sec 2003: 2002: 2001 Wt: 275 Round: 1 Markeith Gillis, Bryan Station, Fall Jon Scarbrough, Oldham County, 0:10 http://www.khsaa.org...2001/friday.htm 2000 Quickest Pin: George King (Union County), 171 weight class - 21 seconds. http://www.kypost.co...rest022100.html 1999 Quickest Pin: Josh Walls (Union Co.) in 0:29. http://www.kypost.co...rest022299.html 1998 Quickest Pin: C.R. Fields (Scott) 140 weight class, pin in :21 http://www.khsaa.org...tateresults.htm

There is a rule, its online in the bylaws but I can't quote it.

Ranked wrestlers that did not place. (top 8)

What do you mean? There are only 8 state placers... so if you just want to look at the brackets you could do that at http://khsaa.org/sports/winter/wrestling/

These guys look like the should be at the top next year, making a serious run if not repeating at whatever weight: A.J. Bindner, St. Xavier, 9, 25-7 Jorge Vega, Fern Creek, 10, 42-5 Trae Blackwell, Union Co., 11, 30-3 Brock Ervin, Union Co., 11, 41-2 Sean Fausz, Campbell Co., 11, 57-0 John Shirkey, Oldham Co., 10, 29-4 Raymundo Perez, LaRue Co., 11, 46-5 Justin Lampe, St. Xavier, 11, 43-0 Dominic Lampe, St. Xavier, 10, 38-5 Wyatt Courtney, Woodford Co., 11, 39-6 Eli Matthews, Campbell Co., 10, 50-4 Austin Myers, Campbell County, 10, 54-0 Landon Young, Lafayette, 9, 31-6 There are others of course..

Thanks

What would you like to see in a summer tournament in Kentucky? FR/GR attendance used to be very low for summer tournaments, that probably explains why there are so few of them in the state. What are the summer tournaments that get you ready for national competition? Bluegrass State Games seems to be the most popular tournament during the summer, simply because it was the "state games". So what would you like to see in a summer tournament in our state?

I'm just wondering how many of our readers are deployed overseas? Also, any former wrestlers deployed out there?

I still hate the 32 man bracket too but it has been going well on 6 mats, except you can't watch ALL the good matches. You could possibly do a 24 man bracket, making the 3rd place match at regions actually mean something. Winner goes to state. Give a first round bye to all region champions. I wonder if you could squeeze a 24 man bracket out in 2 days on 4 mats. We have pretty much tried everything else.

Which bracket or weight class do you think is the most wide open for anyone to win? Without a dominant for-sure top 3 or so guys that could win it?

Erdman could have been in there, he was in the discussion, but it probably came down to not having any wins against top 10 guys (in that weight), but he did tech-fall Beeler at the Rumble, so he could have fallen in there but that was a really early tournament. We basically only had 2 days this time to put something out and everyone is busy with state tournament, so some kids probably got missed.

What is the deal, why are you being so cryptic? Just say his name.

Prayers out to Jeff and his family, glad to hear everyone is doing ok

Here's the place winners for D7. I'll post the brackets below too. I have to say, WOW, wrestling sure is on the rise at the youth level. Some brackets were full 16 man brackets at our district. Some great wrestling today BRACKETS: brackets.pdf District 7 1/12/2013 Place Winners Weight: 70 1st: Ricky Purvis, Elkhorn 3- 0 2nd: Bradley Miller, EJ Hayes 2- 1 3rd: Brent Hudgins, Harrison 3- 1 4th: Jordan Upton, Woodford 2- 2 5th: Zach Cowan, Madison 2- 2 6th: Gabe Ratlifff, Elkhorn 2 1- 3 Weight: 75 1st: Tylan Tucker, Woodford 3- 0 2nd: Gentry Deck, Madison 2- 1 3rd: John Schreiber, Harrison 3- 1 4th: Jack Shoebrooks, Madison 2 2- 2 5th: Chandler Barrett, Bryan Station 2- 2 6th: Levi Burke, EJ Hayes 1- 3 Weight: 80 1st: Brandon Miller, EJ Hayes 3- 0 2nd: Trey Barber, Woodford 2- 1 3rd: Tyler Hudgins, Harrison 3- 1 4th: Kenzie Jacobs, EJ Hayes 2 2- 2 5th: Grant Dolan, EJ Hayes 2 4- 2 6th: Jacob Brock-Leroy, Elkhorn 2 2- 3 Weight: 86 1st: Adam Bender, Bluegrass 3- 0 2nd: Nathanial Lawrence, Elkhorn 2- 1 3rd: Greg Miller, EJ Hayes 3- 1 4th: Kevin Ensor, Tates Creek 4- 2 5th: Tristan Brooks, Woodford 3- 2 6th: Ashton Glasscock, Madison 3- 3 Weight: 92 1st: Will Kenny, Madison 3- 0 2nd: Marik Black, Woodford 2- 1 3rd: Ryan Harrison, Scott County 3- 1 4th: Ronan Wyatt, Woodford 2 2- 2 5th: Wyatt Andreoni, Woodford 2 3- 2 6th: Ryan Perkins, Elkhorn 3- 3 Weight: 98 1st: Joey Roberts, Woodford 3- 0 2nd: Josh Cagle, EJ Hayes 3- 1 3rd: Spencer Carmen, EJ Hayes 2 4- 1 4th: Jacob Franklin, Madison 3- 2 5th: Christopher Ashford, LCA 4- 2 6th: Kade Wagoner, Bourbon 3- 3 Weight: 105 1st: Micael Mattox, Harrison 3- 0 2nd: Braden Wyatt, Bourbon 2- 1 3rd: Zach Manns, Elkhorn 3- 1 4th: Evan Foster, Henry Clay 2- 2 5th: Ryan McManus, Madison 3- 2 6th: Michael McMullen, EJ Hayes 2 3- 3 Weight: 113 1st: Ethan Gilbert, Woodford 4- 0 2nd: Ethan French, Bourbon 3- 1 3rd: Tyler Stork, Henry Clay 4- 1 4th: Agustin Gutierrez, Woodford 2 3- 2 5th: Kevin Vasquez, Five Star 4- 2 6th: Zach Howard, Madison 3- 3 Weight: 121 1st: Caleb Howes, Five Star 3- 0 2nd: Kaleb Oakley, Bourbon 2- 1 3rd: Danny Owens, Woodford 4- 1 4th: Colby Williams, Bourbon 3- 2 5th: Will Lee, Bryan Station 3- 2 6th: Michael Simmons, EJ Hayes 2 3- 2 Weight: 130 1st: Odeh Eqal, Tates Creek 3- 0 2nd: Tanner Wells, Harrison 2- 1 3rd: Drake Hager, Madison 5- 1 4th: Phillip Cockrell, Bourbon 2- 2 5th: DeMarrea Allen, Five Star 4- 2 6th: Christian Shelby, EJ Hayes 2- 3 Weight: 140 1st: Max Andreoni, Woodford 4- 0 2nd: Mitchell Gullett, Madison 3- 1 3rd: Rosin McLaughlin, Madison 2 5- 1 4th: Barkley Truax, Tates Creek 3- 2 5th: Garth Sircher, Bryan Station 4- 2 6th: Alex Noal, EJ Hayes 2- 3 Weight: 152 1st: John Blythe, Elkhorn 3- 0 2nd: Cody Hillock, Bourbon 2- 1 3rd: Blake Denny, EJ Hayes 3- 1 4th: Jack Lindsey, Madison 4- 2 5th: Jayvion Tucker, Tates Creek 4- 2 6th: Abdul El-Saadiq, EJ Hayes 2 2- 3 Weight: 168 1st: Leo Smart, Woodford 3- 0 2nd: Ray Karl Irving, EJ Hayes 2- 1 3rd: Calloway Mills, Bourbon 3- 1 4th: Spencer Sidebottom, Henry Clay 3- 2 5th: Jose Martinez, Tates Creek 2- 2 6th: Jonathan Lanter, Harrison 1- 3 Weight: 190 1st: Justus Williams, Madison 2- 0 2nd: Will Preston, EJ Hayes 1- 1 3rd: Ben Bates, EJ Hayes 2 2- 1 4th: Brendan Haley, EJ Hayes 2 1- 2 5th: Hunter Honn, Tates Creek 0- 2 Weight: 230 1st: Andrew Varble, Woodford 3- 0 2nd: Ben Fooks, Bourbon 2- 1 3rd: Corbin Couch, Madison 3- 1 4th: Chris Benton, EJ Hayes 2- 2 5th: Tre Martin, Madison 2 4- 2 6th: Mason Phillips, Elkhorn 2- 3 Adam Bender (Bluegrass) went home with the MOW. Team Winners 1. Woodford 2. Madison 3. E.J. Hayes

I ran the district 7 with the software required for High School Regionals. I hate TrackWrestling and can't bring myself to try to learn how to use it.

Nov. 24 - Bryan Station Duals Dec. 1 - Walton Verona Bearcat Duals Dec. 8 - Derby City Classic - Eastern High School Dec. 15 - Male Invitational Dual Tournament Dec. 15 - Moore Invitational Dec. 15 - Central Rumble in the Hive Dec. 22 - Hopkinsville Orange & Black Dec. 22 - Lafayette Classic Dec. 28 - Woodford County Invitational Dec. 28/29 - Fern Creek Gladiator Tournament Dec. 29 - Christian County Invitational Jan. 5 - Simon Kenton Invitational Dual Tournament Jan. 12 - Paducah Tilghman Invitational Jan. 12 - Bourbon County Colonel Classic Jan. 19 - South Oldham Jan. 19 - Dunbar Duals Jan. 21 - UHA Blazer Duals Jan. 26 - Calloway County Invitational Jan. 26 - Ft. Knox Feb. 2 - North Oldham Mustang Classic Feb. 2 - Ft. Campbell Tournament Thanks oldgrappler and everyone else on the other thread

Everyone, Sorry about the crazy spam over the last 2 days, I hope that got patched up.

Bourbon and Harrison in region 8 seems like quite a stretch.

In 2010, we had: 1-> 7th grader place 2nd (Mark Hall) 5-> 8th graders place (state champion Bock Ervin) 8-> 9th graders place In 2012 we had: 3-> 8th graders place (all 120 or below) 6-> 9th graders place (state champion Austin Meyers) - Only one 9th grader placed from 150-185. I believe with the recent weight changes from last year and the increase of talent across the state with the amazing youth program we have, it is becoming much harder for the youth levels to compete at the high school level. I'm afraid with the weight changes, I think we should drop middle school wrestlers from competing at the high school varsity level. This is more evident the higher weight class the youth is competing in. Initially, I think the introduction of 7th and 8th graders was needed and complimented the 32 man brackets we needed to fill. I was behind this decision to promote growth. With participation up and the recent raise in weight divisions... I think it could be justified to keep competition at the high school level. I have seen amazing youth wrestlers get slaughtered by elite and high school state placers, particularly in the mid to heavy weight classes. With the increased base of the lower weights, I don't see the need to allow the youth to participate at the varsity level as much as we required it a few years go. I wouldn't say we need to stop 7th and 8th graders completely cold turkey, we could possibly only cut 7th graders from the list and still allow 8th graders to compete until the competition levels out again. I may receive some responses that don't agree, but I think we have to fundamentally believe our high school sports should be participated in by "high school students".

If the argument for allowing 7th and 8th to wrestle in high school is to not hold anyone back, then why arent we letting 6th, 5th, 4th. Why is the line drawn at 7th. I believe the line should be at 8th, but with the same practice rules as today. I think the growth potential is mainly in the practice room, not in the match.

Like everyone else said, some really good teams in this tournament. Too bad it's during state duals.