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    Chris - I got involved up to my neck on this many years ago and heard both sides pretty much at the highest level. Dave Dean and Roger Chandler on the Nuway side. A guy named Ted Witulski (sp?) And others on the usa wrestling side. I can give you some pros and cons for each that I heard. Im sure this thread will blow up like usual, so im just posting what ive been told and let people judge for themselves. USA wrestling pros -they support the Olympic movement -they run the most prestigious tournament in the country (Fargo) for kids wanting to get noticed for college. That may have changed with additional nationals, but I still have heard fargo is the pinnacle for a h.s. kid. -fs/gr is a good change of pace for kids after h.s. season. This is my opinion. -their insurance coverage and support of their clubs in the case of lawsuits is superb. Guy from Illinois usa wrestling told me how he was sued before for an injured kid....usa wrestling did a great job. Cons -not sure if this is the case anymore, but they previously all but neglected folkstyle -costly. Their coaches passes, wrestlers cards, certifications add up to a pretty penny. These funds go out to colorado springs and are used to help support train olympic hopefuls. How does this benefit Kentucky? How many olympic hopefuls have we ever had? Not that many. Nuway Pros -they developed nuway to form a national organization to rival usa wrestling to support folkstyle wrestling. -their model is to take a modest % of fees for administration (website, insurance, etc.) And allow states to govern themselves and keep their dollars to grow their state. -helps develop folkstyle/collegiate wrestlers in state to support college wrestling. According to Dave Dean, as an MSU coach....he had to recruit more out of state before nuway in order to stay competitive. -allows for wrestlers to compete across state borders with membership (so does usaw) Cons -still forming/growing. Probably going to make mistakes and learn some tough lessons along the way. -competes with fs/gr off-season so could possibly negatively impact olympic movement. -their insurance coverage has a cap on catastrophic injury. Usaw does not. Ive been told this can be good or bad. Basically if a lawyer knows your liability insurance has no cap they will seek more money. These are the things I have been told. To answer your question if they can both exist in our state and would we benefit, I always believed it would be good to have both just to give people a choice. If you dont like usaw, form a club and go with nuway and vice versa. However, since most people are more familiar with folkstyle, you may have kids choosing nuway just out of familiarity and never getting started in fs/gr. No one wants that either.