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119 is shaping up to be a really tough weight especially if these three are all there along with a couple returning 119 such as Johnson. Don't forget about little Voth or Spencer both very capable of wrestling tough.
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Nobody has forgot this but did you see him get owned for about fivminutes and twenty seconds of the finals last year. If Evans would have stalled out with a spiral ride and not tried for the pin he would finished the match with not only a win but by dominating. Yes Sullivan won the match and you can use the argument of he finds a way to win, but if you were watching the match you could clearly see who was the better wrestler THAT DAY!! We will have to wait and see. Sullivan, Evans, and Zarth would make for a rough weight class. Evans and Zarth met last year I think?? It was a very close match from what I hear.. Anybody have any insight?
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If this match happens again I would say Evans just because of how he controlled Sullivan the whole match and that he has enn getting closer and closer every time they wrestle. With that said Sullivan does always have that homerun factor of being a pinner and that always has a chance of determining the outcome. Sullivan has more to lose and Evans should have a huge hunger now that he knows he can beat Sullivan. Does anyone know what they are weighing now or what weight they plan to wrestle next year?
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I seen this match as well and Specer actualy did hit frasier with an uppercut and got hit for unsportsman like and yes it was very unclassy. I also seen the 215 match and luckily Dials ducked it tok him down and got to shake his hand.
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I think Zarth from Henry Clay should have got it. I am not sure but I dont think he was scored on but once the whole tournament and this was suppose to be the toughest weight class. He controlled everyone.
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That is very well said.
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I do believe that will be the finals match but Evans is wrestling really tough beating Spencer in the Semis at regional and losing o Sullivan 6-7 in finals. Could be a great second round match. I also think Spencer will beat Voth in the second round.
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Proving the "Student" wrong....I hope!
the student replied to EMS Coach Cardwell's topic in 2007 Season
Here we go again, this was over and you keep bringing it back up so who is doing the "crying"? I simply stated my opinion of the thing, and you stated yours, as well as others. It worked for him and it will continue to work for many others despite your opinion on the thing so you might want to go ahead and quit. I AM NOT SAYING TO TEACH THIS TO YOUR KIDS BUT IT HAS WORKED AND IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE KID FROM "TRINITY I THINK" WAS HURT, CHOKING, STRATEGY, OR WHAT EVER.THE POINT IS HE GOT OFF HIS BACK AND BEAT THE OTHER KID, SO I THINK IF IT WAS STRATEGY THEN IT WAS A GOOD MOVE. Get off you soap box and dont let what other people say bother you so much. I hope this concludes our discussion. -
Well I thought we dropped this topic but here goes some guy trying to get his two cents worth. Actually I am not a coach but I was taught in COLLEGE and it has never came into play with me because I rarely go to my back but I see it happen all the time and not only when people are on their back. For example when someone is having their shoulder cranked on and they are obviously going to their back so they squeal a little and the ref stops it, you have probably done it D.W. considering most people have. The other thing is maye he cried maybe he just yelled a little I dont know I was not there, either way he got off his back and did not get "laced on his face again" and he got the pin. I am not saying that this needs to be taught to kids so they do it everytime they are on their backs, but it is a very smart move. You can call it what you want D.W..
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I will keep this in mind at state and see where you fall in the end. I hope you do well, but when you get to state all the forfeit are eliminated. I do agree with you on the 103 it is very weak this year but 171 is no where near in the same league as 112 and 119 this year even though it has several great wrestlers in it.
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Actually no I am not kidding. Its the same concept of if you get burned on a pass play in football and you grab a little jersey to slow him down and the ref does not catch it, you take a charge and fall to your back in basetball although you really was not set bt you get the call, you scream and fall to the ground in soccer when really your opponnet gets all ball but the ref calls a penalty thinking you got kicked in the leg. I could go on and on. I would not teach this to my wrestlers but I do think it is a very strategic move and won him and many others matches. If you ever watch any higher level of wrestling this happens alot especially if someone gets in a tight position, sometimes the ref stops it and soetimes the ref lets it go. It is up to the ref to stop it or not just like in any ither sports.
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I would call it more on the lines of smart wrestler. I did not see the match but if you think you are going to get pinned then you should do what you have to do to get off but this is just my opinion.
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How else would you analyze these two weight classes if not head to head. Isnt head to head how every tournament is seeded? I dont understand your logic about middle schoolers making it to state because if they do make it to state in either the 112 or 119 pound weight class then they obviously are good enough to be there and beat high schoolers to get there. I respect your opinion so thanks for commenting on this topic but I still think I have the best logical explaination with if we match them up right now even if they are in two different weight classes the 112 pounders would beat the 119 pounders in a dual meet or tournament points standard.
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Did Cornett not wrestle?
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See I saw the first match and it seemed like Frazier was in control and thats why I thought he would win again.