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I would say a back to back to back to back to back to back back to back to back to back to back to back Champ who ended at 220 would be close to a back to back heavy champ but what do I know. And if CC former champs like to brag and add a weight class and a title don't shoot the messenger , Regardless you get my meaning im sure and don't take it wrong or take it however you like ,the fresh I mentioned could have taken out a few former 2x heavy champs from ky just as easily , Its easily he had the credentials . Its easy to look up !

If the NatureBoy says Centerville is an above average school then you can take it to the bank ,wrestlefever ,if you think most of the teams in KY could beat Centerville then you have been dumped on your head to many times which is almost a certainty since your trying to debate the Natureboy and that in itself shows how deficient you are in wrestling knowledge , I guess your trying to measure up Centerville and in doing so compare the wrestler that beat Erdman to the level that you are trying to hold his school to and in doing so claim erdman lost to a sub average wrestler hahahahahhaha that's pathetic ,you need to go back to psychology 101 because no one on this forum would fall for that . Now Erdman losses to a kid from Centerville a school you claim is sub average and in doing so by association you assume we will all believe Erdman is sub average hahahhhhah ' let me guess Vasquez lost to a national champ from Blair Right hahahah. more likely some no name from mudlick ky or hogwhistle Indiana because I do not see him or his school wrestling any national contender teams . if your going to throw stones you better reinforce your glass walls

Mat Shear was an upper weight champ not sure if he won once or twice or what weight doesn't really matter when ATM beat him he weighed around 300 and ATM had just certified for 180 whatever that was and was barely over 2 , As I said im sure it will be good , As for Centerville they are definatly an above average team in ohio they are big school they wrestle year round and every style and have kids currently wrestling D! who graduated from there one of whom will be Erdmans teammate at OU ,The Nature Boy ,Knows wrestling .... And Logan majored that Centerville kid Whoooooooo

Well like I said the kid left everyone wondering what the heck he did was it legal or not what the H was that hahahahahahah A real state runner up medal WOW amazing from the stone age LOL I saw my son as a freshman break a former multiple x heavy state champ from cc down completely hitting moves he didn't even know the names too , im sure it would have been worse with deppershmitt ,im sorry there is no comparison to someone like him and myself I have fun and throw some craziness inn but most of my comments are factual like all the smack I talked about the pro wrestlers ,All True . I can google deppershmitts name and see well nothing .I can google my friends name that I trained kids names that I trained my wifes name that I trained and see what they have done in various sports in the real world on state and national levels not inside the closed wrestling world of KY wrestling ,And no I didn't wrestle couldn't changed schools to often but I have more than a few state records and titles in my background ,I doubt you really know much about me to begin with lol a runner up title from when the field was half the sise it is now doesn't really impress me .

"If I say I have as much experience as I do" Who the heck do you think your talking to pal? IM "THE NATURE BOY"you don't question me you simply set back and admire because that's all you or anyone else has ever been able to do , I set back do work and create magic perfection that leaves everyone wondering just how the H@## that just happened . And no the semis matches are just that "SEMI "matches that lead up to finals everyone has been training hard I guess , all depends on what you consider hard or what they are actually doing im not certain I do not follow every High School wrestler around and neither do you , what some think is hard others laugh at and consider a warm up and training hard for a year or a month or a few months does not add up to YEARS of training hard travelling and being trained and training with the best , although I love the thought of the darkhorse who is training hard on their own or without the advantage of great rooms and partners , the reality is that those who get the advantages or have the advantages of being trained by the best will usually rise . As I have said Erdman has trained with the best and made the sacrifices over the years went through the mental and physical wars that forge a real Champion ,worked his way up and is now setting on the verge of being a legend a 2 x champ ,looks like its going to be a great class with all the hoopla and talent and backstory to create an OW at state perhaps , the fact is you or no one else except me has a clue how it is going to turn out , Erdman moving up a class Vasquez being so dominant and at his weight Binder being a loose canon and no one knowing how he will do or which Binder will show up or how he will do at this weight and Johnson who I have seen but have no clue about fact is the only thing for Certain is everyone is wondering and it could be anything from a tight race to a complete blowout ,like Erdman showed everyone last year ,the boy left everyone wondering what the H he even did and was that even legal hahhahaha seriously when a kid leaves most of a state coaches included dumbfounded it says a lot either good on his part or bad on most of the states , it reminded me of that old Steve Martin skit on SNL where he said What the H was that , What the H is that ,What the H WAS that over and over hahahahah tilt after tilt after tilt score after score , was it the same move or wasn't it was it legal after letting his opponent base up or not who knows DOESNT matter he smoked everyone lol WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Give you the field hunh Arent you just a brave little soldier ,Pick your four since you claimed it was a five man field and anyone could win or pick your guy and we will bet as for you riding the Nature Boy I don't think so sweetpea in my part of the County we don't roll that way ,And as for you claiming to know as much as me any day you want to compare trophy cases let me know i am the Nature Boy i breath Gold and you don't come close i have trained kids who won state titles their first year at age six and it only got better and bigger afterwards You Can take a knock here or there but you Or no one else will ever match The best Laid plans of The Nature Boy you could have a hundred grand kids and still couldn't come close and if you could you would only be second and not the First , A tough Class i agree I will take Erdman not saying he will major or pin through not to many Phenoms out there and i didn't say i trained him from day 1 lol but he is my friend and hes going to WIN ,

I wondered about that ,In Ohio they do not I was told and since they are not Khsaa sanctioned I did not think they would count against a weigh in ,It doesn't make sense , What is a Horseman , SERIOUSLY the greatest assemblage of Wrestling Talent Charisma Skill and know how in the history of Mankind . The Four Horsemen in all Honesty the Horsemen are probably more responsible for kids getting involved in wrestling than any four wrestlers in history in one way or Another .. Considering state duals are strictly the best teams from around the state or are supposed to be just that then it is worth a weigh in I would think .

First Thing First ,i dont care if your Great great great great Grandma came across on the Mayflower wearing a singlet and you have ten dozen yard ape grandkids wrestling,Your not in the Nature Boys League . amazing you mean some kid actually beat a cooper ,You mean a kid didnt wrestle untill Regionals and won a State title "something that is againts khsaa rules " Get real i know two kids who didnt wrestle a match in 2012 and couldnt even practice till the week of regionals and walked all over State in 2012 fastest pin most pins and both even wrestled well above their cert weight one a frosh beating a sr returning Champ ,and oh yeah .... they both have wins over a cooper in their careers not sure what all that fuss was about or what your point was with all that ? Lets get something straight theres those that talk the talk and those that walk the walk and the rare breed that does Both and that would be "The Nature Boy" and you would be the neither . Your already making false comments and having to apologize for them because you dont know Squat about the kids in the sport or what it takes to be the CHAMP And everyone knows in the sport of wrestling in this state the Nature Boy is the MAN The Heartbreaker trainer of the Record MAKER and your just a faker. You see you read my over the top comments but they are all Factual as far fetched and fun as they may sound ,And i do not comment or throw praise around lightly so if you think there are four wrestlers in KY in his weight class who can BEAT my man Erdman i would gladly bet you a C note x 10 your a free for all between 4 or 5 wrestlers was your exact words so lets hear the four who can Beat Erdman ,you hiding behind the fact that the KY tournament isnt seeded properly is a joke if Erdman and Vasquez are on the same side one wouldnt be the Champ and there are others in the class but only 2 with their credentials . Now is the part where i have to bury you and your miniscule knowledge of the wrestlers themselves ,Logan has set his standards higher than any sr wrestler i know currently wrestling in NKY actually all of KY he trained with the best all across the country for years and while i do not know for certain what he is up to currently im sure he is hard at Work ,Saw him at swowca take a close loss and come back and major the same kid its a lesson, losses happen but early in the year coming back and winning like that is something that pays off at the end .As a youth spending time at Jordans or Mirons or in Michigan at Camps with kids like Mark Hall i doubt young Mr Erdman was worried about what anyones predictions were for him his Sr yr were he was more concerned with winning and getting better while the rest of those four kids you think can hang with him were somewhere in ky probably watching spongebob or dragon ball Z .And while most of them are hiding deep in KY and trying to get pumped up for a go at state Erdman is getting prepared for a Run at OU lol Whoooooooooooo

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Did you actually just Question The Nature Boy ? Do you think you have anywhere near the history or background in this sport that the Nature Boy has ?Have you ever wrestled partied with or trained with a Horseman ,Well Mister I have ! I have slammed the Abyss silenced a loose cannon and shut down the town with a Horseman had lunch with a Steiner been next to the Road Warriors who requested my presence at ringside when sting busted em open with a steel Chair made Luger look like a weakling in the Gym and gotten praise from the Koloffs . And i didnt do all these things to be questioned by some grown man with a spawn fetish an underdeveloped physique and a wrestling message board forum god complex who thinks they can get close to the Nature boys Shine by questioning him . First thing , The Nature boy doesnt' look at anyones Rankings that would be like Ali asking Cossell for advise about His next fight . Second thing in all Seriousness ,You said a free for all between the top four or five kids ,a comment that totally shows how little you actually know about the state of affairs in the sport of High School wrestling in the State of Kentucky as well as your own true nature that indicates your looking to debate with someone regardless of how much of a stretch you have to put to the truth yourself .Not one person on this board thinks there is four other wrestlers in his weight class in the state who can even dream of Beating ERDMAN . At the same time I do believe Erdman and Vasquez can have the marquee matchup at state along with another who may be as Hungry for that state title as Cornett depending upon where everyone ends up , as i said i do not look at rankings i put people on top of them and let em run . I believe the answer to the question of wether Vasquez has beaten the Erdman was in fact NO and while Erdman may take a fall here and there the thing to look at is where he is stepping and thats outside the relative safety of the state borders he sharpens his skills in the hot bed of high school wrestling in the company of Horsemen while most of his in state opponents are wrestling comp that cannot name half the moves that he is applying let alone hope to beat him . . Whoooooooooooo

I know your not talking ABOUT the Nature Boy because i have more state titles than digits . And if you are implying Cornett i hardly think a jr who lost to one of the best jrs in the state and country last year as a soph and nearly won a soph national title for himself getting picked as the obvious favorite and being considered the guy to beat is a stretch at all , He would be one of the top three favorites in the state to be a Champ this year i would think ,Erdman Frankrone and Cornett pretty much locks of course there are more i simply have seen a lot of these guys ,Cornett has great coaches and he has to be Hungry more so than anyone to grab that gold .I think he has some polishing up to do still to reach his potential but i think everyone expects him to get it done , he is suspect against some of the best and super athletic kids but i havent seen any kids left in KY who can take him with Meiman out of the picture and him down a weight class from last year the boy is HUNGRY and a that makes him dangerous .

Eventually the re alignment had to have an effect , I wouldn't count reg six out even missing a few horsemen ,It would be interesting to throw a Meiman back in the mix and add 40 plus points .

It doesn't matter who Casey Cornett's opponent is at 170 its like a bunch of mice arguing over who gets to stick their head in the mousetrap ,

Of course it stinks /sucks for Ryle if they host and do not get to wrestle ,its wrestling not capitalism good they get to see the sport it would be like making a lady go to six flags without getting a shot at space mountain .The Nature Boy gets so sick of Hearing the same old crybaby story every year about state duals its always how UNION is so good lol woe is them they have to compete in small school lets toot the Union horn some more ,I mean seriously they get to wrestle at state against every one else so they get their chance to prove what they got the division is obviously good for the sport adds new dimensions and scenarios for everyone for gods sake enough already everyone knows union is good and should win small school if its such an issue they can simply have their own duals and invite who they want and if they do not show or decline Union can declare themselves undisputed champs HS and middle school the same day huh well what about the middle school kids who are on HS rosters ???? and it would be a cluster more than likely keeping things to a nice number and uniform leaves room for less problems or issues . I don't think any decent coach or wrestler is looking to rest up I think they want the matches and state duals are just that free matches that do not count against their weigh inns so who wouldn't want em . of course even at state duals when you run up against a Horsemen you usually get forfeits anyway even from the best of the best and it aint because of injury scares its because when you Face a Horseman you know your facing the best the sport has to offer today and you may never be the same after you are shown just how behind the times you are ,Whoooooo and that's the bottom line

The Nature Boy says everyone knows you can only bump up one class from your weigh in weight and in most states if you bump up 2 you lose your lowest weight class . Arn and Tully used to take on Sting and Lex and gave up a few weight classes and when I whooped Dusty and Race all over Georgia and Charlotte I gave up a few weight classes but there are not any Horsemen left the last one graduated last year and it will be a while till the next one rides in .

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