Just a Coach

Members
  • Content count

    212
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    11

Posts posted by Just a Coach


  1. 15 hours ago, Nkawtg said:

     

    Nkawtg, 

     

         If we cut the DEAD brackets as you call them, that is like cutting off our nose to spite our face. As i add the numbers there are 167 wrestlers at 107# at the state level that would leave wrestling and go to other sports. That does not count the other wrestlers in the state at that weight class. So do we want to grow our sport or kill it? those 167 plus kids will grow up to have kids who will probably wrestle and then they start coaching the next generation. This is how we grow. If we start eliminating opportunities for kids to wrestle we start eliminating our ability to grow. 

    8 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:

    Have you looked at other states?  We cannot go on our own and change the weight classes.  That would cause a problem for those competing in other states.  

    Here are the surrounding states states placers at 106

    Ohio (8 places 3 divisions)

    Total 7 Fresh---11 Soph---4 Jr----2 Sr

    Indiana (8 places 1 Division)

    3 Fresh---2 Soph---1 Jr---2 Sr.

    Illinois (6 places 3 Division)

    Total 9 Fresh--4 Soph--2 Jr--3 Sr.

    Missouri (6 places 3 Divisions).

    Total 7 Fresh--5 Soph--6 Jr--0 Sr.

    Tennessee (6 placers 3 Divisions)

    Total--- 3 8th--7 Fresh--6 Soph--1 Jr--1 Sr.

    West Virginia (6 placer 2 Division)

    Total-- 9 Fresh--2 Soph--0 Jr--1 Sr.

    Virginia (6 placer 6 Division)

    Total-- 13 Fresh--10 Soph--7 Jr--5 Sr (1 ??)

    Grand Total

    3 8th grade--55 Fresh--41 Soph--21 Jr--14 Sr (1 ??)

    In your mind that would mean 35 UPPERCLASSMEN would NOT place in a state tournament. 

     

     


  2. I am not sure how many of you remember a wrestler we had a Holmes in 2014 Antonio McCloud. He placed at MS state in 2014. This weekend he finished his High School year on top. With a pin in his semi final match and a Major decision 13-3 in the finals. Antonio is one of those gifted athletes a coach love to have because he works hard and listens had a hard. We at Homes are proud to have Coached him in the beginning and very proud of the young man he has become. Congratulations Champ.Below is a link to the news article. @bulldogleader

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/03/11/elders-antonio-mccloud-wins-emotional-state-wrestling-title/413593002/

    • Upvote 2

  3. 38 minutes ago, Nkawtg said:

    You can’t call 106 a varsity weight in Kentucky when it’s dominated with 8th graders and freshman. Of course we need a place for under sized kids to compete. They should compete with other under sized kids. You can’t just maintain a class where you need 8th graders to fill out a bracket. 

    How can you say this? We have several 10th, 11th and 12th in 106 this yaer. Look how they stack against the 8th and 9th graders.How would those guys fair in a heavier weight class. If anything 106 is showing we are doing something right on the middle school level.The smaller kids are getting Stronger and more technical. I find the 106lbers to be a fun match to watch.

    106a.PNG

    106b.PNG

    • Upvote 1

  4. 1 hour ago, DrBaker said:

    I agree. I don't see why we aren't exactly aligned with college. add 220, 119 and 113, maybe 106. 

     

    1 hour ago, 119Rider said:

     I like the idea of proposed alignment with college. I would drop the 106 lb class though and make it 110. Get rid of 113 for a 118 weight then into the 20's. You still have a lower weight for the little guys and you give older wrestlers more of an opportunity to fill that weight. Best of both worlds.

    The problem is if you get rid of 106 how many kids do we lose state wide? there are several who barely weigh 80 lbs already wrestling 106 now add another 4 pounds? You may think only 4 lbs but for a little guy 4 lbs is like 20 lbs to a 160, it would be like a ton. if anything add a class in some of the heavier areas


  5. On 2/6/2018 at 7:48 PM, grappler-of-old said:

    OK I gained a little more knowledge over the weekend. (See and old dog can still learn).  I did not know that there was a middle school level at the Youth state. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one. When GOO Jr. wrestled only 6th and lower wrestled at Youth state.  But since there is I would agree that a MIDDLE SCHOOL kid that goes to the state tourney should not wrestle in the Youth state.  If they are elementary kids wrestling middle school then they should be allowed to wrestle at Youth state regardless of there placement or lack of at the middle school state.  

    I would AGREE  except the the youth state tournament is first broken by birth year. An 8th grader based on DOB should never wrestle a 6th grader. In some areas a 7th or 8th grade 1st year wrestler may automatically default to the MS state tournament and go 2 and out. it's cases like this that we a doing a disservice to our kids by not allowing them to compete at youth state. The old way of top 8 at MS were disqualified from youth was perfect. I say as much mat time we can give our kids the more we grow as a sport. IMHO


  6. 7 hours ago, grappler-of-old said:

    It doesn't matter where you go if KHSAA won't do it.  All of what you want could be done at Altech if they would allow it.  The venue is not the problem its the mindset of how it should be run is what the problem is.

    Lets fix the mindset 1st then we can fix the venue.  Because Altech is NOT the best place to hold it. 

    The only way to fix the mindset is to get the KHSAA Control Board to actually care about the sport and the kids.Below are the members of the KHSAA Wrestling advisory committee, these are the people who can make or break our sport.We need change we need to gain their attention and support. They have to be willing to take new ideas and concerns to the Control Board.

    Christopher King, Calloway County, Assistant Principal, 2019
    Bob Davis, Meade County, Coach, 2020 
    James Kraeszig, St. Xavier, Coach, 2019
    Che Founder, Central, Administrator, 2020
    Tim Ruschell, Ryle, Coach, 2017
    Troy Johnson, Fern Creek, Athletic Director, 2019
    Philip Dettwiller, Montgomery County, Coach, 2020
    Chris McCoy, Male, Coach 2018
    Scott Hawkins, Woodford County Superintendent, Board of Control Representative
    Mark Schumate, Louisville, KWOA, (ex-official)
    Scott Greenwald, Tournament Staff (ex-official )


  7. I don't disagree, but it is up to us as coaches and parents to grow our sport and prove our value to the KHSAA. We are making great strides on the youth and middle school levels hopefully those will carry over to the next level as our kids improve and the sport keeps growing.


  8. 30 minutes ago, DrBaker said:

    Why aren't the ones on this forum the ones in charge, or at least talk to them? 

     

    DrBaker. KHSSA does not care if its not football or basketball. I will tell you that KFWC has several influential coaches and admins on here. What is said about the MS and Youth is heard very clearly. 


  9. I love watching and reading this thread. Reminds me of old Saturday morning Wrestling. You have the one DELUSIONAL MORON and everyone else is jsut dancing and having fun whilst he get his knickers Twisted. Look at what I got, NEENER, NEENER, NEENER. 

    • Upvote 2

  10. Hey guys,

     

       I am doing some research into the history of Holmes Ms State team standings qualifiers, placers and our 2 champs. Th farthest back I have found is 2014. Does anyone have access to these? If so could or would you share them with me. Our program started at Holmes MS  in 2008-2009 season.


  11. 1 hour ago, gameface said:

    Reaching out to coaches/teams and parents of wrestlers that won or placed in the Middle School State. Kentucky USA Wrestling is paying $850 for a team entry into the Middle School National Duals in Danville Illinois on March 23rd thru 25th. Efren is putting together the Team gear which will match the Finals shorts given out at State. I have a block of hotel rooms already outside of Danville at a cost of $100 per night. I’m hoping that we will have a coaching staff of Coach Moore (WV) Coach Kinley(Madison Central) Coach Goss(Woodford) Coach Vlach and Coach Raney(McCracken) , Coach Messerly and myself(Ryle) all apart and helping out since their sons qualified. We will set up a couple practices either together or a couple different locations due to teams being in different parts of the state. The goal is to create a great experience for these wrestlers to represent Kentucky on a National level and build some friendships with other team members. 

    Weight Class potential line up:

    75-Jayden Raney McCracken

    80-Jordyn Raney,McCracken

    85-Joey Sander,Ryle

    90 Spencer Moore, WV

    95-Cole Thomas,Jeffery Kinley,Ryle

    102-Jeffery Kinley,Cole Thomas,MC

    110 Devon Herron,JohnHardin

    117-Bryant Beane,WV

    125-Reece Goss,Woodford

    132-Kolby Koepp, McCracken

    140-Caleb Wittrey,Scott County

    150-Stephen Little, Union County

    160- David Wallace?? Or open to fill,

    175-Braden Giannone,Carr Academy

    195-Levid Rodriguez,Johnson County

    220-OPEN TO FILL,

    275-Deshaun Stevenson,Holmes

    please let me know if their on your team and either want or don’t want to qualify so we can fill the weights and be competitive. 

    I can be emailed at tlc.darrenthomas@gmail.com

    Thank you for your help,

    Coach Darren Thomas, Ryle Wrestling

    Darren,   

        Deshaun could make 220 as he only weighs like 205 I will see him tomorrow and ask him.


  12. 12 hours ago, Ranger123 said:

    Dion was a BIG dude. I will never forget when Woodford came to Cynthiana for a weeknight dual his freshman year. We were both overweight and ran together to make weight. Funny sight. Woodford heavy and Harrison 103 running together to cut weight. 

    That's because was just a Beast. Off the mat a big teddy bear. Still our only HS State champ. but hopefully he will have company soon.


  13. On 2/13/2018 at 9:23 AM, Bulldoglife said:

    14-Moore  132

    13-Washington HWT

    12-Johnson  145

    11- Pye 113

    10-Smallwood  160

    9- Grandstaff  106

    8- Mattingly  120

    7-Smith 170

    6-Santiago  182

    5-Vasquez  152

    4-Lutes 126

    3- Ervin 138

    2-Hawkins 195

    1-Pratt  220

     

    Sleeper Rone 138

    Johnson Central 204.5

     

    Fat Man got 55 points. time to tally guys

    • Upvote 1