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    Yes it does which is why most college football coaches watch for wrestling skills and offer better scholarships to athletes that do both.  The problem is that some football coaches believe they can better enhance their athletes in the off season.  They beleive that weight loss is a bad thing (like they don't gain it back plus a lot more) and that muscular endurance is not necessary only power training.  Oh well, it is the loss of both programs and the athletes. 

    You know a lot of facts are made up on the spot.  Where do you get your "facts" from.  Do you have anything to back up your remark that "most college football coaches watch...etc."

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    after wrestling season ends you work really hard, go to open matts, nd lift weights, but when u wrestle someone you know you can beat you jus end up doin something stupid nd wrestling crappy, casue thats whats goin on with me, i ahve been going to open mats every chance i get nd im not getting any better, idk what to do?

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    I would say take a break.  Relax for a week or even two.  Let your body heal, as well as your mind.  Come back healthy, strong and hungry.  Think of it as a new beginning.

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    What is the deal with kids running from wrestlers come regional and state time? You see it all the time........Just because you have a Harrison Courtney or Fahy, or Ervin, does not mean you should run......With the high ranked wrestlers that dodge, there weight classes should become easier by default. I just think it is a pansy move that I have seen time and time again....Just food for thought. I mean look at the boy that beat Sullivan in the 112 finals a couple years back. Upsets happen, especially at state. :-D

    Maybe it's none of your business.  I know it's none of mine.  You may think it is a pansy move, but they have a state title.(maybe)

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    I never knew who he was until Friday.  I may be wrong, and hope I am, but even if I knew nothing about him I would have thought that display was...well disingenuous.  Maybe he thought it was right, but it was making Croney's moment about him.

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    My point of view was that he took the moment from Croney.  Raising his hand as if it was his win to give.  He should have just shook hands and walked off the mat with some dignity.  I thought his display was garbage.

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    360 kick out.... he will be on his back if done right.   I hated leg wrestlers and acctualy tried to hurt them if they tried to slow me down by riding me.   360 role out baby!!!!!!

    A good leg guy isn't gonna "ride" you.  And a roll isn't going to do anything to get a leach off of you except maybe get you cranked good and hard.

    It is nice to know, however that sportsmanship is still dead, "I hated leg wrestlers and acctualy tried to hurt them".  What a stupid thing to say.

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    I didn't read all the posts, but will chime in on my understanding of the b-splits.

    I know in Ohio you can't split them straight apart, it has to be more of a scissor split (i.e. inside leg up towards the stomach/head).

    That is how I have always understood the rule/interpretation.  This would have probably been the refs call in Illinois.

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    State duals makes perfect sense to me. There are 2 types of good teams. Good tournament teams and good dual teams. A good tournament team could have 3 or 4 studs/champions and win a team tournament but that same team may be terrible in a dual because their teammates are weak.Vice versa for a good dual team.

    Last year Trinity were state dual champs while Union ran away with the KHSAA tournament. See, both were state champs!

    Personally, I like it.

    I have a question for the Simon Kenton fans; Is Simon Kenton going to the state duals this year or do they have prior commitments?

    I guess it is the attempt to make wrestling a team sport.  But from my point of view it hurts the guys that would benefit from the tougher competition.  "Hey what did you place in the Classic?"..."I didn't go, but we won the state duals in KY!!".  I just don't see any benefit to it, waste of two weekends to me.

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    On the same subject, can anyone explain the state duals to me.  I am not from KY and don't recall any "state duals" in any other top wrestling states (OH, PA, NJ, NY).  Why does ky do them at all?  I may be wrong about the other states, I just never heard of them.  Seems to me if teams want to get in better tourneys, then KY could get rid of the duals all together, seems like some teams feel forced to go (like Christmas with the in-laws, you go and smile but you would rather be somewhere else).

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    Apparently Clancy has some hard feelings towards Ryle.  I know the coaches there and in no way they are tryng to snub anyone.  They waited 3 years to get into the tournament in question.  It is equal to or better than the KY state tournament as is the GMVWA in Dayton.  Both tournament had college scouts or had wrestlers competing that college scouts were recruiting. 

    Is it fair to say that they snubbed because they chose to send Ruschell, Peace and Reid to the Beast during the same weekend in the past? May have cost them a one seed instead of two.

    As for the state duals, most state qualify by the number of returning qualifiers from the previous season.  Scheduling is tough enough.  So do you schedule a tournament, pay an entry fee then find out you qualify for state duals pay the fine and piss a school off by screwing the tournament up? or do leave it open with the possibilities of getting into another tournament? 

    State has no bearing on the State Duals, it is run by the coaches association not the KHSAA.  Henry Clay gets to attend because they are the host school. ????

    Some of the top schools in the past would not attend due to travel distance or simply scheduling conflicts.

    I will say again, this has nothing to do with Ryle.  I could care less what Ryle does.  This has do do with rules and precedence.  If a school (Ryle in this case) wants to send their varsity team to a tougher tourney, go for it(I would).  However, you sacrafice a chance to go to the state duals.  That's it for me, nothing more.  In this case Ryle varsity went to the classic, I felt none of the two and outs should have been at the nkac, they were and I really don't care that much I just wonder what the rules state, they then gave up the state duals for a better tourney.  If you want you can use the name Anyteam USA in place of Ryle, but in this case it happens to be Ryle's actions that have bought this to the forefront.

    If Ryles jv would have placed 1st or 2nd at the nkac, I would argue that the same line-up should go to the state duals,  with the exception of injuries(none of the guys that weren't at the nkac).  Maybe you could think of it as one weigh-in, once at the nkacs and once at the state duals, therefore it is one tourney. 

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    I would like to see Ryle attend the state duals. Undoubtedly, they are one of the top 2 teams in Northern Ky. I spoke with Coach Ruschell over the weekend, they had applied for SWOCA 3 years in a row and finally got accepted. If he declined, Ryle never would have been allowed to attend in the future. Personally, I think he made the right decision. I have seen a tremendous decline in the quality of Northern Ky wrestling over the last several years. Although each school outside of Ryle and CC have a few isolated good kids, the overall depth and competition is down, as it relates to overall team strength and depth.

    Ryle is now at the mercy of Simon Kenton's Coach as to which team will be attending the state duals. I believe Ryle has a very legitimate chance of winning state duals if they attend. Simon Kenton has some very tough kids in their line up and they may want to see the state dual competition.  The NKAC collectively decided the top teams in the NKAC tournament attend state duals. Simon Kenton has earned the spot.

    Ryle has a top notched Kentucky program. For those of you who feel snubbed, too bad. I don't think Ruschell is arrogant, he's hard core. There is a difference. He is trying and succeeding in making Ryle one of the best teams in Ky.

    I am sorry but you are kidding(I hope).  Would SK's coach even consider this?  Why don't we just skip the regional tourney and send the top 16 ranked kids to Frankfurt.  While were at it we can skip the state tourney(we could rank the kids at the beginning of the season and skip the whole thing). This is the kind of crap that keeps holding Ky wrestling back, no legitimacy.  As far as feeling snubbed, if for any reason Ryle goes to the state duals I am sure a lot more people will feel "snubbed".  What a joke!!

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    I only posed the question about what the rule states.  I would be a shame for a kid to miss out on something later in the season because of some technicality.  I am not completely clear on the point system in ky, it is different than in oh, which I am sure is different than pa and so on.

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    Have an issue with Ryle?  Are you posing the question as a result of this situation?  Yes, I am pretty confident that this would count as 2 weigh ins.  But, it has alreay been pointed out that there are only 11 weekends in the season.  I don't have contact with them, but I'm sure the staff at Ryle considered this when setting up their schedule.

    It's a rule thing, not a Ryle thing.  I realize that there are 11 weekends in the season, there are also 11 Wednesdays, 11 Thursdays and so on.  A dual on Wednesday counts as a weigh-in, the same as a tournament I believe.  So when you pack a schedule the way most teams do, to add another tournament or dual or whatever usually doesn't work(too many points). 

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    So the second day of a tourney doesn't count as a weigh in.  However the Nkac and the classic are not day one and day two they are two separate events.  So if varsity is allowed 17 weigh ins,  the nkac counts as one and the classic counts as one.  Unless they took their jv team to the classic.  I am going to pose this question to the khsaa next week.

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    Ryle had some kids knocked out of the SWOWCA on Friday night and those kids wrestled on Saturday at the NKAC.  There were four that I can think of.  That shows the strength of the program to send what is mostly a B team to the conference and still finish 3rd.

    Ryle saw great competition at the SWOWCA Holiday Classic and will benefit from that later in the year.  A trip to the state duals was the price that they paid.

    Does anyone know how the points system works.  Seems to me that if Ryle is maxed out in points for the season, those four would have to sit something out later (or the whole varsity lineup).  My point being that the classic and nkac are two seperate varsity events and should count that way.  Unless the rules don't apply if you are in a different area code or from Ryle.