Nathaniel Bryan

1) A public-private split or a big-small class split won't be happening any time soon. Forget it. The numbers don't support it. You want the best of 40-ish teams (most of whom do not fill out all 14 spots) to be considered a STATE champion? Please. Plus, if you think EVERY public/independent school district has the EXACT SAME enrollment criteria, you haven't done your homework. They don't. Josh and I have seen dozens of kids in various sports who lived in one district and played in another. 2) As far as gaining traction from the KHSAA: A: All qualifying must become uniform. Meaning all regionals must be held the same week in the same style. Check every other sport and you'll see this to be the same. So it may mean one weekend every school in the region gets together at one school and wrestles and has Duals. Weekday matches between region rivals would NOT count (in basketball, baseball, softball, soccer, volleyball, football, regular-season wins over teams do NOT matter in postseason tournaments). Now you could make sure every team has at least one dual with every other team in the region prior to region duals and use those results for seeding (no different than what the other team sports do on the district level). B: That being said, NO sport in Kentucky uses a round-robin approach to decide district/region/state champs. None. Softball does have double elimination at State. All-A softball (not a KHSAA official title) is experimenting with round-robin pool before single-elimination 8-team tournament. What's this mean? Your region duals qualifying become single or double-elimination and the last team -- meaning one, no region runner-ups qualify for a KHSAA state tournament in any "team" sport -- left standing heads to State Duals. C: An eight-team double-elimination State Duals could be held on a Saturday at any number of neutral-site arenas (NKU, Pikeville Arena, Corbin, Memorial, Diddle, EKU, Murray State, Morehead State, Bellarmine (site of state volleyball), Campbellsville (college wrestling program), Lindsey Wilson (college wrestling program), Cumberlands (college wrestling program)). KHSAA isn't too keen on having team state titles handed out at high schools, but at the same time, it's not too keen on outrageous rental fees (which rules at Yum for any state tournament outside boys' hoops any time soon). D: Most likely, the last four weekends of the season would change to this: Region Duals, Region Individuals, State Duals, State Individual. The problem is someone getting hurt at State Duals would/could jeopardize their run at a State Individual title. And it's unlikely that a KHSAA state title (i.e. Duals) would be awarded midway through a season. It would have to be at the end. Plus, how do coaches factor in the every growing Elementary and Middle School state tournaments? The KHSAA doesn't care because that's not their jurisdiction. And they're NOT going to change the schedule/extend the season to fit them in. This means the elementary/Middle state tournaments (and qualifying) could find themselves changing dates). Here's the problem folks: A lot of people say "Well, State Duals should be KHSAA sanctioned." And that's nifty, but not many people have sat down, thought it through and come up with a calendar and criteria. Tennis is the same way. The tennis folks are trying to have Duals (like the NCAA does with its team championships) but haven't devised a way to make it work out in terms of logistics. Other states do both (individual, team) in both sports (wrestling, tennis). And none of them are ideal (and most states that do it have far more teams than Kentucky does). It seems all of this would be a big hassle/headache just to be KHSAA recognized. I'm not being sexist, but it's the same reason cheerleading is not likely to be a sport in Kentucky, yet bowling and archery are well on their way. Cheerleading doesn't want to go through the protocol (roster limits, dead period, transfer rules) in order to be a sport. Wrestling doesn't want to have to make drastic changes to meet the KHSAA's wants.

Reigning 215-pound state champion, LaRue County junior Drew Newberry, tore his meniscus and knee in a football game last week. He is out the rest of football season and will miss wrestling season. He should be back for both for the 2011-2012 school year. http://www.thenewsenterprise.com/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?053+article+Sports+2010093005925053053011

According to a thread on KentuckyPreps, middle-school athletes have been banned from ALL varsity sports for Jefferson County PUBLIC schools (this does not include Trinity, St. Xavier, DeSales, etc). Someone else said this includes any team (such as JV and freshman) ran directly by the high school. Apparently a lengthy e-mail is out stating such. This would really appear to hurt sports such as wrestling (getting 103, 112 and 119 pound kids is tough enough), girls' cross country, girls' hoops. Football and soccer would be affected as much as middle schoolers can't play varsity football and can only play JV soccer if a junior or senior is NOT present on the field. Can any of our friends in Jefferson County confirm? I'm from Hardin County, so I'm not as well attached.

Just because ONE school district makes the rule DOES NOT mean the rest of the state should follow suit. Meade County went for years without allowing middle schoolers. First year they allowed them, the girls' cross country team went to state for the first time in a loooooooong while. I can name a long list of high-caliber girls' basketball players who had major impacts as eighth-graders. You can look at the state wrestling qualifiers at 103 and 112 and even 119 and know middle schoolers can play a big role. Just because your JCPS decided to handcuff itself does not mean the rest of the state should have to abide by some warped JCPS decision, too. I don't care if you just happen to be the largest school district.

Confirmed in today's Courier-Journal: http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100401/SPORTS05/4010379/Middle-schoolers-can-t-compete-for-public-high-schools Middle schoolers can't compete for public high schools By Jason Frakes

1) In order to wrestle for South Oldham, you'd have to enroll/attend a S.O. feeder middle school (assuming there is more than one). 2) If an eighth-grader does that (wrestle varsity for South Oldham as a middle schooler living in Louisville) but for their freshman year enrolls at Moore, Fern Creek, Western, etc., and does NOT move, the kid would be ineligible to wrestle their freshman year. No offense Pinned500, but that's a cheap - and NOT incredibly bright - way to circumvent the rule. Wrestling folks aren't the only ones upset. Middle school girls are quite prevalent on high school cross country, soccer and basketball teams, too.

According to a post on KentuckyPreps' Football forum, this is for ALL sports on ALL levels (freshman, JV and varsity). Don't know the reasoning, but some KYPreps posters have said it has to do with recruiting. Some also said the JCPS is going to put more emphasis on middle school sports. I think if anything, this would open up the recruiting wars more b/c now, teams will be trying to entice kids who have NOT established where they are going yet. This hurts wrestling bad. Girls' hoops and girls' cross country, too. A lot of soccer teams won't be able to field JV teams now (of course back in the 90s, middle schoolers weren't allowed and most every team had a full JV squad, so who knows).

Olympic_wish, Sure the X-T regular season game would do well in Commonwealth ... but it would still roughly be half empty. PJCS was just remodeled/expanded and there will be tons of empty seats next time the X-T face off is held there. Plus, why would X-T move all the way to Lexington? The further away from the Ville, the less fans in attendance.

Olympic_wish, WKU has a nice football stadium and it's not that far from Louisville (straight down I-65). X and T didn't come remotely close to filling WKU in 2009. http://www.khsaa.org/football/2009/6afinal.htm Attendance: 9962 Just because ONE specific football game might fill half of Commonwealth doesn't mean the other classes should be held there. Plus, if folks are NOT willing to make the easy drive down 65 to BG, you really think 30,000+ will drive 80 miles to Commonwealth? I have my doubts.

Holding state wrestling in Freedom Hall would be like holding girls' hoops or girls' volleyball in Rupp or high school football at Commonwealth: Can't afford it. Can't fill it. Bigger (in these cases the biggest or next-to-biggest in the state) does not mean better in certain cases. I like Freedom Hall. Go there 10+ times a year for UofL basketball. Not sure KHSAA wrestling would fill it or could afford the rent. Would be a LOT closer for me, though.

Not sure leaving Frankfort is the best idea, however: -- New arena at NKU (the Bank of Kentucky Center). Beautiful. Plenty of hotels and restaurants. And in a wrestling-loving area: -- New area in Corbin. Area is wrestling crazy, and being in a smaller area, they may go all-out to showcase a big-time event. Drawback is travel for most teams. Not many great hotels and restaurants. -- Pikeville (East KY Expo Center). Travel would be an issue for a lot of folks, same as hotels and restaurant availability. -- Broadbent or Kentucky International Convention Center. Going to Louisville would be closer for a lot of teams, and no shortage of hotels and restaurants. Moving back to Louisville would increase media coverage (especially by the four major TV stations in Louisville). Freedom Hall would be way too big (it would feel empty). Broadbent is older (much like Frankfort). And the Louisvillle Gardens is older too, but is plenty big enough and would give the tourney an old-time feel. -- New Horsepark Arena or Memorial Coliseum at UK. Lexington is decent wrestling area. Plenty of hotels, restaurants and media coverage. Fairly centrally located. Rupp would be way too big.

http://www.khsaa.org/wrestling/2010/finalstateresults.pdf Quickest PIN: J. J. Jude (160 lb. from Johnson Central, Pin in 0:14) Most Pins in Least Total Time: Michael Osborne (125 lb. from Ryle; 5 Pins in Total Time of 8:53) Orville Williams Outstanding Wrestler Award: Michael Osborne (125 lb. from Ryle) Kentucky Wrestling Coaches Association

Through first two rounds of winner's bracket and first round of loser's bracket JJ Jude Johnson Central Fall Jeron Trice, (11) Christian County 0:14 Tyler Pace Wayne County Fall Trey Beal, (12) Cooper 0:16 Corey McCall Woodford County Fall Reece Beck, (10) Bullitt East 0:17 Brandon Barnett Harrison County Fall Will Conrad, (9) North Oldham 0:22 Tyler Crow Meade County Fall Brandehn Todd, (10) Central 0:26 Thomas Buckman Union County Fall J.P. Robbins, (10) Boyle County 0:29

77 Schools qualified at least one wrestler: 14: Johnson Central 14: Ryle 13: Meade County 13: Trinity (Louisville) 12: Eastern 12: Southern 12: St. Xavier 11: Campbell County 11: LaRue County 11: North Hardin 11: Oldham County 11: Pleasure Ridge Park 10: John Hardin 10: Seneca 10: Simon Kenton 10: Tates Creek 10: Union County 09: Central 09: Jeffersontown 09: Wayne County 09: Whitley County 09: Woodford County 08: Fern Creek 08: North Oldham 08: Sheldon Clark 08: University Heights 07: Central Hardin 07: Christian County 07: Lafayette 07: Manual 07: Paul Dunbar 07: South Oldham 06: Cooper 06: Fort Campbell 06: Henry Clay 05: Anderson County 05: Bourbon County 05: Daviess County 05: Doss 05: Fort Knox 05: McCreary Central 05: Ohio County 05: Paducah Tilghman 04: Apollo 04: Franklin County 04: Moore 04: Perry County Central 04: Scott 03: Ashland Blazer 03: Boone County 03: Danville 03: Fairdale 03: Harrison County 03: Letcher County Central 03: Valley 02: Boyle County 02: Bullitt Central 02: Bullitt East 02: Caldwell County 02: Calloway County 02: Conner 02: DeSales 02: Dixie Heights 02: Holy Cross - Louisville 02: Hopkinsville 02: Nelson County 02: Walton-Verona 02: Western Hills 01: Atherton 01: Belfry 01: Bishop Brossart 01: Bryan Station 01: Holmes 01: Kentucky Country Day 01: Madison Central 01: Montgomery County 01: Shawnee 00: Barren County 00: Henderson County 00: Iroquois 00: Kentucky School f/t Blind 00: Lawrence County 00: Newport 00: Pike County Central 00: Prestonsburg 00: Trigg County 00: Western

It's going to take me/Josh Claywell a while to go through and input this by hand. Thus, if you want to look at it, the PDF should be attached.

http://www.kentuckynewera.com/articles/2010/01/18/sports/paid/doc4b54a68fad2c1716849757.prt CCHS places 5 at Creek Wood Invite From Staff Reports Published: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:42 PM CST The Christian County wrestling team had five grapplers place individually en route to a fourth-place overall team finish Saturday at the Creek Wood Invitational in Charlotte, Tenn. Kory Polley pinned Matt Baker of Gibbs to win the tournament championship for the Colonels at 130 pounds. Asa Odoms (103) Jeron Trice (160) and Marlon Pate (285) were all runners-up for the Colonels and Steven Stapp took fourth in the 285-pound weight class. The Colonels will face Daviess County and Caldwell County Thursday at Daviess. The Christian County Middle School team placed nine wrestlers in the Region 1 state qualifying tournament after their matches in the first middle school district tournament over the weekend at Trigg County. Brandon Wiley (140) and Tevin Tolar (230) led the way with runner-up performances for the Colonels. Christian County Middle will participate in the Region 1 tournament Saturday at Union County. Urban leads UHA Blazers at Creek Wood Invitational Wrestler Daniel Urban led the University Heights Blazers with a first-place finish in the 152-pound division Saturday at the Creek Wood Invitational in Charlotte, Tenn. Wade Willen took home a runner-up slot in at 112 pounds, while Cameron Montgomery placed third at 125. The Blazers will travel to Atlanta Friday for the Southwest Prep School Slam. UHA will be the only representative from the Commonwealth of the 35 teams from 10 different states. The UHA Middle School team captured second in the district tournament at Trigg County at Saturday, trailing only Union County. Zach Hamby (75), Dalton Putty (82), Coby Lancaster (89) and Trae Blackwell (96) all won the district championship in their respective divisions. Blackwell earned the tournament

Team results: 1st-Lafayette 2nd-Larue 3rd-Central Hardin 4th-Tates Creek 5th-Franklin County Individual Finals 103: Milford PLD over Rearic LAF 112: Paden LAR over Henderson CH (forfeit) 119: Bryant LAF over Supe SCO 125: Lacy LAF over out of state kid 130: Terry CH over Supe SCO 135: Floyd LAR over Stockwell TC 140: Over Green LAF 145: Hull LAR over Sewell FRA 152: Whalen HEN over White TC 160: Robey CH over Stringer PLD 171: Gardner FRA over Ray LAR 189: Barnett and Out of state kid?? 215: Newberry LAR over Brown LAF 285: PT kid over CH kid http://www.thenewsenterprise.com/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?053+article+Sports+20100116234304053053009 WRESTLING PREP SATURDAY'S EVENTS FIVE STAR CLASSIC LEXINGTON

http://www.thenewsenterprise.com/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?053+article+Sports+20100116234304053053009 WEDNESDAY'S EVENTS CENTRAL HARDIN QUAD MATCH Results from Wednesday's quad match: TEAM RESULTS Central Hardin (3-0) Def. Bullitt East, 84-0 Def. Louisville DeSales, 76-6 Def. North Oldham, 42-30 INDIVIDUAL RESULTS 103: Zach Heck 3-0 112: Joey Henderson 3-0 119: Kenny Richardson 3-0 125: Dustin Jaggers 2-1 130: Tyler Elmore 3-0 135: Kyle Terry 3-0 140: Nick Waits 2-1 145: Ryan Woodrum 2-1 152: Erik Jaggers 2-1 160: Cody Floyd 2-1 171: James Shinault 3-0 189: Hunter Dailey 2-1 215: Cody Reeser 3-0 285: Cameron McGaw 2-1

http://www.readingbluedevils.com/wrestling/results/cm2010/cm2010home.htm Place Team Score 1. Reading 288.50 2. Campbell Co. 207.00 3. Loveland B 164.00 4. Bethel Tate 145.00 5. Centerburg 104.00 6. Badin 92.50 7. Mariemont 79.00 8. NCH 68.50 9. CNE 65.00 10. Finneytown 51.00 (tie) Taylor 51.00 12. Reading B 46.50 13. Midd. Christian 44.00 14. Lockland 39.00 15. St. Xavier B 31.50 16. Cin. Country Day 28.00 17. Williamsburg 23.00 18. Holmes 3.00 HOLMES 119 Aaron Burden Record: 0- 2 Result Opponent School How Lost Danny Cox Loveland B Fall 1:32 Lost Michael Getz Badin Fall 2:33 135 Brandon Wren Record: 1- 2 Result Opponent School How Lost John Hale Campbell Co. Fall :31 Won Colin Connell Finneytown Fall :54 Lost Jake Bieber CNE Dec 2-1 152 Rayshawn Jackson Record: 0- 2 Result Opponent School How Lost Will Fritz Cin. Country Day M-Dec 16-4 Lost Daniel Zink Campbell Co. Fall 1:54 160 Alex Dailey Record: 0- 2 Result Opponent School How Lost Ryan Roberts Reading B M-Dec 7-0 Lost Devin Kendrick Reading Fall 3:56 285 Nick Scherpenber Record: 0- 2 Result Opponent School How Lost Christian Elfers Reading Fall :28 Lost Jordan Smith Williamsburg Dec 6-0 CAMPBELL COUNTY 103 Garth Yenter Record: 36- 1 1st Place Result Opponent School How Won Andrew Doan Reading B Fall 1:10 Won Mike Johnson Reading T-Fall 20-4 112 Sean Fausz Record: 32- 7 2nd Place Result Opponent School How Won Tyler Hughes Finneytown Fall 3:45 Won Charlie Heyob Loveland B Dec 6-0 Lost Jimmy Harrison Reading Def 119 Zach Fryer Record: 20-16 4th Place Result Opponent School How Lost Thomas Thatcher Centerburg Fall 1:25 Won Dominic McElhiney Reading B Fall 1:18 Won Michael Getz Badin Fall :28 Won Danny Cox Loveland B Fall 2:33 Lost Austin Renner Reading Dec 7-3 125 Corbin Woods Record: 18-18 Result Opponent School How Lost Jamey Perdue Reading Dec 14-11 Won Kevin Jones St. Xavier B Fall 1:53 Lost Conner Reynolds CNE Dec 13-6 130 Paul Hamilton Record: 13-14 4th Place Result Opponent School How Lost Dustin Davidson Bethel Tate Fall 3:40 Won Cory Herdtner Loveland B Fall 3:36 Won Nathan Hammond Reading B Dec 4-1 Won Taylor Shinkle CNE Dec 3-2 Lost Tyler Kelly Reading Fall 1:31 135 John Hale Record: 25-10 6th Place Result Opponent School How Won Brandon Wren Holmes Fall :31 Won Chris Legendre Taylor M-Dec 10-1 Lost David Guilford Badin Def Lost James Tecco Mariemont Def Lost Spencer Ireton Bethel Tate Def 140 Eric Spahr Record: 11- 5 1st Place Result Opponent School How Won Andrew Schmidt Reading B Fall 1:40 Won Zach Bowman Reading Fall 4:16 Won Dylan Reynolds CNE Fall 3:16 145 Korey Shotwell Record: 35- 4 1st Place Result Opponent School How Won DeAndre Smith Reading B Fall 1:55 Won Jude Camberos Reading Fall 3:33 Won Jimmy Alexander Centerburg M-Dec 17-5 152 Daniel Zink Record: 21-14 5th Place Result Opponent School How Lost Dylan Weber Taylor Fall 1:50 Won Rayshawn Jackson Holmes Fall 1:54 Won Rhett Hensel Centerburg Fall 1:47 Lost Lucas Bemmes Reading Dec 8-2 Won Will Fritz Cin. Country Day Fall 1:45 171 Jacob Lee Record: 23-11 6th Place Result Opponent School How Won Basil DeJong Cin. Country Day M-Dec 20-6 Lost Chris Mchale Reading Def Lost Jake Barrett Bethel Tate Def Lost Cody Eilbacher Centerburg Def 189 Nathan Ilg Record: 35- 7 2nd Place Result Opponent School How Won Lance Reeves Williamsburg Fall 3:36 Won Devontay Scott Lockland T-Fall 17-2 Lost Kirby Acus Reading Dec 7-4 215 Rob Youtsey Record: 14-15 Result Opponent School How Lost Nick Thissen Centerburg Fall :44 Lost Brandon Wilson Lockland Fall :47 285 Mason Franck Record: 37- 6 1st Place Result Opponent School How Won Kody Bray Reading B Fall 1:10 Won Dustin Brown Loveland B Fall 3:29 Won Christian Elfers Reading M-Dec 13-3

http://www.amnews.com/stories/2010/01/14/spo.481913.sto Prep Wrestling: Boyle falls to Paul Dunbar January 14, 2010 The Boyle County wrestling team had three pins Wednesday in a 50-30 loss at Paul Dunbar. Ean Daly, at 103 pounds, won his match by pin, as did Kody Wade (145) and Zac Lynch (215). Dallin Tritapoe (135) and Chad Warren (140) each won by forfeit.

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Tiger matmen 11th at Indy tourney Times Leader Staff Report staff@timesleader.net Wednesday, January 06, 2010 The Tiger wrestling team placed 11th out of 19 teams in the Independence (Tenn.) Holiday Tournament Saturday in Thompson

http://www.wcoutlook.com/localsports/local_story_005114926.html/resources_printstory Border War wrestling results Wayne County Outlook Monticello January 05, 2010 11:48 am

http://www.ucadvocate.com/articles/stories/public/201001/13/04O5_sports.html UCHS wrestlers win Mt. Vernon tournament for sixth straight time Advocate Staff Report news@ucadvocate.com The Union County High School wrestling team took home another championship at the West Frankfort Redbird Invitational last Saturday, making them the sixth straight tournament winner in the six years it has been implemented. Union scored 214 points just ahead of Mt. Vernon, Indiana, who had tallied 196 points. Taking third place honors was Highland of Illinois with 146.5 points. Union took 12 wrestlers and all 12 came away as medalists. There were six first-place winners including Brock Ervin at the 10-3lb. weight class with a pin over Devin Wilson of Carmi, Illinois who was ranked second in the state (of Illinois) in that weight class. In the 119-lb. class, first=place honors went to Gabe Ervin who defeated Zach Frasier of West Frankfort, Illinois, going 11-9 in overtime. In the 130-lb. class, Keaton Thomas defeated Curt Kaufman of Mt. Vernon with a score of 16-7 and was awarded first place in his division. Taking champion honors in the 135-lb. class was Isaac Thomas who defeated his opponent 7-4 and Caleb Ervin once again took first place in the 140-lb. class by pinning Mitchell Murrell of Mt. Vernon in 3:22. Caleb recorded three pins for the day and was voted the Outstanding Wrestler of the tournament by the coaches. Thomas Buckman in the 171-lb. weight class pinned his opponent, Jacob Ewers of Mt. Vernon, in 4:26 for the win. Buckman also had three pins for the day with an outstanding showing at the tournament. In the 152-lb. class, Jake Risinger finished second for the tournament with two wins but lost a battle in the finals with a score of 8-2 against Jake Marshall of Mt. Vernon. At the end of the semi-finals and the beginning of the consolation round, Union was trailing Mt. Vernon by 29 points but after a pep talk by Coach Dennis Walls, the momentum changed.