region8fan 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2011 ok...what wrestlers who won state titles in the past would you like to see wrestle this year's champs? only match wrestlers who won titles in the same weight class and give a prediction. example: 103: Garth Yenter- Campbell County (2011) vs. Luke Metzker- Henry Clay(2000). Not such a close match. I originally thought it would be, but I think Metzker's size, and the fact that he won 103 when it was still full of upper classmen would give him the edge. 10-4. 112: Brock Ervin- Union County (2011) vs. Jason Davioux- Scott (2000). Davioux, at the time, was considered one of the most technical in the state and was very slick. He was a Jr. this season and was very very good. I think Brock may be one of the best in KY in the last several years. Definitely the best freshman. I think this is an OT match, going either way. But I have to make a pick... 8-6 Ervin in OT. etc... so what do you all think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
batman 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2011 119: Ruschell vs. Ruschell 2005. With Ruschell in an overtime ride out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2011 119: Ruschell vs. Ruschell 2005. With Ruschell in an overtime ride out. I'd have to give the nod to ruschell on this too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrddog 1 Report post Posted February 23, 2011 125-John Fahy-Trinity vs. 126-Joe Carr-Woodford-1995 Really good match, Close one too - Carr 6-4 130-Jayce Carr-Union vs. 130-Brandon Wilkens-Campbell-1994 - Wilkens 8-4 135-Kevin Cooper-Simon Kenton vs. Brad Cooper-Simon Kenton-2003 - Cooper 140-Zach Salyer-Johnson Central vs. Brian Selke-Trinity-1991 - Selke 8-2 145-Joe Whalen-Henry Clay vs. Chris Hagen-Campbell-1992 - Hagen pin 152-Caleb Ervin-Union vs. Don Blevins-Fern Creek-1994 - Ervin 8-6 160-John Lampe-St.X vs. Willie Ennels-Hopkinsville-1992 - Ennels 8-4 171-JJ Jude-Johnson Central vs. Tendai Charasika-St.X-1996 - Tendai 8-4 189-Thomas Buckman-Union vs. Miguel Merritt-Hopkinsville-1996 - Meguel pin 215-Kyle Durbin-Eastern vs. Livingston Merritt-Hopkinsville-1996 - Livingston pin Hwt-Aaron House-North Hardin vs. Frank Wolnitzek-Covington Holmes-1993 - Frank pin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
region8fan 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2011 125-John Fahy-Trinity vs. 126-Joe Carr-Woodford-1995 Really good match, Close one too - Carr 6-4 130-Jayce Carr-Union vs. 130-Brandon Wilkens-Campbell-1994 - Wilkens 8-4 135-Kevin Cooper-Simon Kenton vs. Brad Cooper-Simon Kenton-2003 - Cooper 140-Zach Salyer-Johnson Central vs. Brian Selke-Trinity-1991 - Selke 8-2 145-Joe Whalen-Henry Clay vs. Chris Hagen-Campbell-1992 - Hagen pin 152-Caleb Ervin-Union vs. Don Blevins-Fern Creek-1994 - Ervin 8-6 160-John Lampe-St.X vs. Willie Ennels-Hopkinsville-1992 - Ennels 8-4 171-JJ Jude-Johnson Central vs. Tendai Charasika-St.X-1996 - Tendai 8-4 189-Thomas Buckman-Union vs. Miguel Merritt-Hopkinsville-1996 - Meguel pin 215-Kyle Durbin-Eastern vs. Livingston Merritt-Hopkinsville-1996 - Livingston pin Hwt-Aaron House-North Hardin vs. Frank Wolnitzek-Covington Holmes-1993 - Frank pin The 171 match would be a great one. From what I have heard about Charasika, he was an amazing athlete and was super strong. Most of the guys you mentioned were before my time though, except for Brad Cooper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2011 The 171 match would be a great one. From what I have heard about Charasika, he was an amazing athlete and was super strong. Most of the guys you mentioned were before my time though, except for Brad Cooper. No isaac Knable? Edit: That was meant for byrd dog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
region8fan 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2011 No isaac Knable? I havent made my list yet. It may include him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freemove 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2011 112-myron bradbury trinity 2009 vs brock ervin 2011 brad cooper would make kevin cry.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kywrestling fan 1 Report post Posted February 23, 2011 103- Yenter vs Chris Valentine (Woodford) Valentine was huge for a 103. 112- Ervin vs Dan Carman (Henry Clay) 119- Ruschell vs Jason Talbot (Oldham Co.) 125- Fahy vs Joe Carr (Woodford Co.) I'd like to see Fahy deal with the length Joe Jr. had. 130- Carr vs Brandon Wilkins (Campbell Co.) 135- Cooper vs Brad Cooper (SK) Just because I'd like to see Brad make Kevin cry. 140- Salyer vs Paul Kaiser (SK) Since Zach beat an SK guy I thougth it would be nice to match him with another. 145- Whalen vs Isacc Knable (St. X) 152- Ervin vs Ian Horn (Woodford Co.) 160- Lampe (St. X) vs Jacob Holbrook (Campbell Co.)Holbrook was only scored on twice the whole year. 171- Jude vs Charasika (St. X) Tendai was a monster 189- Buckman vs Miguel Merritt (Hoptown) Miguel made good wrestlers look awful 215- Durbin vs Livingston Merritt (Hoptown) Merritt's legs were bigger than Durbin's body. 285- House vs Mike Ramsey (Campbell County)Keep with the North Hardin vs CC match up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrddog 1 Report post Posted February 24, 2011 No isaac Knable? Edit: That was meant for byrd dog went "Old School" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrddog 1 Report post Posted February 24, 2011 125-John Fahy-Trinity vs. 126-Joe Carr-Woodford-1995 Really good match, Close one too - Carr 6-4 130-Jayce Carr-Union vs. 130-Brandon Wilkens-Campbell-1994 - Wilkens 8-4 135-Kevin Cooper-Simon Kenton vs. Brad Cooper-Simon Kenton-2003 - Cooper 140-Zach Salyer-Johnson Central vs. Brian Selke-Trinity-1991 - Selke 8-2 145-Joe Whalen-Henry Clay vs. Chris Hagen-Campbell-1992 - Hagen pin 152-Caleb Ervin-Union vs. Don Blevins-Fern Creek-1994 - Ervin 8-6 160-John Lampe-St.X vs. Willie Ennels-Hopkinsville-1992 - Ennels 8-4 171-JJ Jude-Johnson Central vs. Tendai Charasika-St.X-1996 - Tendai 8-4 189-Thomas Buckman-Union vs. Miguel Merritt-Hopkinsville-1996 - Meguel pin 215-Kyle Durbin-Eastern vs. Livingston Merritt-Hopkinsville-1996 - Livingston pin Hwt-Aaron House-North Hardin vs. Frank Wolnitzek-Covington Holmes-1993 - Frank pin 103-Garth Yenter-Campbell vs. Tom Storms-Simon Kenton-1991 112-Brock Ervin-Union vs. David Richie-Caldwell-1985 119-TJ Ruschell-Ryle vs. James Smith-Union-1983 This could be a little unfair for this yrs winners because my guys won state more than once 103-Storms-2X 103,119 & Runner-up in 1992 at 130, got a bad call for stalling in OT 112-Richie-3X 105,112,112 119-Smith- 2X 112,119 - Runner-up 80,81, 4x state finalist 125-Carr-3X 103,126,140 & Runner-up 94, 4x finalist 130-Wilkens-2X 130,130 135-Cooper-3X 119,130,135 140-Selke-2X 135,140 145-Hagen-2X 145,145 152-Blevins-2X 152,152 160-Ennels-3X 135,152,160 & Runner-up at 152, 4X Finalist 171-Tendai-3X 160,172,171 189-Miguel-2X 185,189 215-Livingston-3X 215,215,Hwt Hwt-Frank-2X-Hwt,Hwt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 24, 2011 103-Garth Yenter-Campbell vs. Tom Storms-Simon Kenton-1991 112-Brock Ervin-Union vs. David Richie-Caldwell-1985 119-TJ Ruschell-Ryle vs. James Smith-Union-1983 This could be a little unfair for this yrs winners because my guys won state more than once 103-Storms-2X 103,119 & Runner-up in 1992 at 130, got a bad call for stalling in OT 112-Richie-3X 105,112,112 119-Smith- 2X 112,119 - Runner-up 80,81, 4x state finalist 125-Carr-3X 103,126,140 & Runner-up 94, 4x finalist 130-Wilkens-2X 130,130 135-Cooper-3X 119,130,135 140-Selke-2X 135,140 145-Hagen-2X 145,145 152-Blevins-2X 152,152 160-Ennels-3X 135,152,160 & Runner-up at 152, 4X Finalist 171-Tendai-3X 160,172,171 189-Miguel-2X 185,189 215-Livingston-3X 215,215,Hwt Hwt-Frank-2X-Hwt,Hwt As someone who has been on the mat with both guys, I give the edge to Yenter at 103. Storms was strong, but not as technically sound as Yenter is at this point. And don't start with the stalling call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119Rider 61 Report post Posted February 24, 2011 Watch out Ranger you will start to show your age! I haven't wrestled Yenter but Storms was strong, but I must defer to the elder on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
region8fan 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2011 103-Garth Yenter-Campbell vs. Tom Storms-Simon Kenton-1991 112-Brock Ervin-Union vs. David Richie-Caldwell-1985 119-TJ Ruschell-Ryle vs. James Smith-Union-1983 This could be a little unfair for this yrs winners because my guys won state more than once 103-Storms-2X 103,119 & Runner-up in 1992 at 130, got a bad call for stalling in OT 112-Richie-3X 105,112,112 119-Smith- 2X 112,119 - Runner-up 80,81, 4x state finalist 125-Carr-3X 103,126,140 & Runner-up 94, 4x finalist 130-Wilkens-2X 130,130 135-Cooper-3X 119,130,135 140-Selke-2X 135,140 145-Hagen-2X 145,145 152-Blevins-2X 152,152 160-Ennels-3X 135,152,160 & Runner-up at 152, 4X Finalist 171-Tendai-3X 160,172,171 189-Miguel-2X 185,189 215-Livingston-3X 215,215,Hwt Hwt-Frank-2X-Hwt,Hwt So who wins your match ups at 103, 112, and 119? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrddog 1 Report post Posted February 25, 2011 103-Garth Yenter-Campbell vs. Tom Storms-Simon Kenton-1991 112-Brock Ervin-Union vs. David Richie-Caldwell-1985 119-TJ Ruschell-Ryle vs. James Smith-Union-1983 This could be a little unfair for this yrs winners because my guys won state more than once 103-Storms-2X 103,119 & Runner-up in 1992 at 130, got a bad call for stalling in OT 112-Richie-3X 105,112,112 119-Smith- 2X 112,119 - Runner-up 80,81, 4x state finalist 125-Carr-3X 103,126,140 & Runner-up 94, 4x finalist 130-Wilkens-2X 130,130 135-Cooper-3X 119,130,135 140-Selke-2X 135,140 145-Hagen-2X 145,145 152-Blevins-2X 152,152 160-Ennels-3X 135,152,160 & Runner-up at 152, 4X Finalist 171-Tendai-3X 160,172,171 189-Miguel-2X 185,189 215-Livingston-3X 215,215,Hwt Hwt-Frank-2X-Hwt,Hwt Man I thought some of you would have caught this and be letting me have it. 125-Carr-4X 103,126,140,145 & Runner-up 95, 5X Finalist Don't see how I messed that one up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrddog 1 Report post Posted February 25, 2011 So who wins your match ups at 103, 112, and 119? 103-Storms-7-4 112-Ervin-3-1 119-Smith-8-6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119Rider 61 Report post Posted February 25, 2011 Me either, Carr was runnerup in 94. Come on ByrdDog! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted February 25, 2011 As Ranger said Yenter is too much of a technician for Storms And no way Ervin beats Ritchie. Ritchie would make him beg for mercy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
region8fan 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2011 As Ranger said Yenter is too much of a technician for Storms And no way Ervin beats Ritchie. Ritchie would make him beg for mercy. I dont know Ritchie, but in my 12 years at the state tourney I have yet to see a better 112 than Ervin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pioneer_pride 1 Report post Posted February 25, 2011 I dont know Ritchie, but in my 12 years at the state tourney I have yet to see a better 112 than Ervin. Dave Ritchie was absolutely amazing. By Ervin's senior year who knows he actually probably will be better, but I watched Dave Ritchie wrestle his senior year and he made kids blow snot bubbles at state. I believe he pinned a defending state champ in the finals?? GOO & Ranger - don't bet against Storms. Tommy not only dominated in state, he always found a way to draw the toughest kid in the tournament and managed to beat most of them when SK wrestled a very tough out of state schedule. Storms was at most a 125 pounder his sr year, and wrestled up to make the team stronger. He could have dropped to 119. I seen him weigh 128 the monday following districts fully clothed drinking water. 130 was too big for him, and it still was a stalling call in OT that took down the champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 25, 2011 Dave Ritchie was absolutely amazing. By Ervin's senior year who knows he actually probably will be better, but I watched Dave Ritchie wrestle his senior year and he made kids blow snot bubbles at state. I believe he pinned a defending state champ in the finals?? GOO & Ranger - don't bet against Storms. Tommy not only dominated in state, he always found a way to draw the toughest kid in the tournament and managed to beat most of them when SK wrestled a very tough out of state schedule. Storms was at most a 125 pounder his sr year, and wrestled up to make the team stronger. He could have dropped to 119. I seen him weigh 128 the monday following districts fully clothed drinking water. 130 was too big for him, and it still was a stalling call in OT that took down the champ. I figured this discussion would wake up old pioneer. I agree you absolutely hate to see a state finals match decided by a stall call, but as so many of us say, beat the kid to the point the official can't decide the match. And my opinion on the Storms-Yenter matchup is looking at 103. That year I don't think Storms was as good a wrestler as Yenter; he relied a lot more on strength than later in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 OK here is one for some of you older guys. Caleb Ervin 2011 Vs Jared Trice (Hop-town)1989. I'm not sure who wins this one. A battle for the ages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 OK here is one for some of you older guys. Caleb Ervin 2011 Vs Jared Trice (Hop-town)1989. I'm not sure who wins this one. A battle for the ages. Yes, a battle for the ages. But that is asking a lot of Caleb. Trice is like Paul Bunyan or something, his stories are larger than life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Its_All_Good 1 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 Some Clever Ones that Crossed My Mind Gonna Use Some Recent Champions 103- Yenter Vs. Jarvis Elam 112- Ervin Vs. Travis Sullivan 125- Fahy Vs. Michael Osbourne 145- Whalen Vs. Dusty Brown 171- Jude Vs. Mason Reid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrddog 1 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 Me either, Carr was runnerup in 94. Come on ByrdDog! yea yea, I know I was there....How about you? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
